Racist Kudela given 10 game ban, Kamara 3 games (all discussion here)

...and now Slavia want to play pals.

Sickening beyond belief. Never ever let this rancid club forget how they reacted in the aftermath of their racist players actions. Abhorrent enabling behaviour that pointed the finger at everyone bar the real racist culprit. Vile.
 
Piara Power trying to make out it’s a decent punishment ‘could mean he’s out for two seasons effectively.’ Load of pish.
That does add credence to the thought that euro's won't count unless he's chosen in the squad for his country
 

Slavia received UEFA disciplinary decision
DNES, KLUB
This Wednesday Slavia received the decision of the UEFA Control, Ethics and Disciplinary Body regarding Slavia player Ondřej Kúdela and his incident with Rangers player Glen Kamara.
This Wednesday Slavia received the decision of the UEFA Control, Ethics and Disciplinary Body regarding Slavia player Ondřej Kúdela and his incident with Rangers player Glen Kamara relating to the match of the respective clubs on 18 March 2021.

Members of the UEFA disciplinary body on today’s meeting reached the conclusion that Ondřej Kúdela is guilty of racist behaviour. UEFA sent this decision, yet to be explained, to the club which informed the player.

Slavia Chairman of the Board Jaroslav Tvrdík said: “Ondřej was suspended for 10 UEFA games and as a club we respect the decision,” adding that “In any case, Ondřej Kúdela should not have approached the opposition player. I deeply regret that and apologise to Glen Kamara for a situation that has clearly caused distress to him and his teammates, as well as everyone associated with Slavia and Rangers. I am taking positive steps to prevent such a situation from happening in our club ever again.”

A long-term aim of the club’s management is to build a “Slavia for everybody” with zero tolerance towards hatred, racism, and discrimination. Slavia never discriminated against any minority as a club. Mr Tvrdík nevertheless stated: We want to learn even more from this situation, and we are open to cooperation with major anti-racism British organizations on workshops and setting up even more robust internal club rules. It is a way for us to organize a broader dialogue that should result in mutual understanding between people in Czechia as well as the UK. This would benefit all players, fans, and citizens.
They should be punished as a club for initially calling Kamara a liar. Scumbags.
 
Kudelas International career is now over. At 34 he will miss his last big tournament and potentially EL semi/final. Realistically he will miss some very big games, so far so good. He'll also be tagged as a racist for the rest of his career. However UEFA have missed the boat here. They obviously believe he's guilty so why not a lifetime or at least a year's ban? Do they not think its serious enough. Officials have rightly been banned longer for bribery,corruption etc so is racism less of a crime?
What's the punishment for the club who employ the racist? Our stand was closed because of the behaviour of fans. Should Slavia not have been punished for their players behaviour?
Also, they're at it.... Hold a workshop for racism?
Also, our fine... Exactly what are we being punished for?
 
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So Kudela will miss the euros.
Convenient that he wont coming over. Missing the games at Hampden and Wembley.

Police Scotland should have questioned him when he was over for Wales game.

Makes a joke of Uefas "Say no to Racism" campaign.
 
The BBC Scotland site uses both players names in their ‘ race row ‘ headline. You have to read the accompanying text to discover Kamara is not actually guilty of racism.
A clever tactic to connect Rangers with racism on Google searches.
 
So if the racist doesn't get selected in the Czechia squad, which he won't because he's banned, does he still get every one of their games coming off the ten?
 
So Kudela will miss the euros.
Convenient that he wont coming over. Missing the games at Hampden and Wembley.

Police Scotland should have questioned him when he was over for Wales game.

Makes a joke of Uefas "Say no to Racism" campaign.
If Slavia want to prove they are actually trying to change as a club then I’m sure the police will be granted access to interview him under caution.

More likely they’ll hide him away until the bans over and he’ll come back a saint.
 
If Slavia are genuine about wanting to do what they can to prevent racism, they can start by flying their player over to Scotland to allow the police to do their jobs.
 
Is it possible that UEFA have actually been quite clever here banning him for 10 games including international matches for which he is eligible.

The National team are unlikely to name him in a squad knowing that he is suspended so will leave him out until he is clear of suspension - so I assume those games wouldn't count as part of his suspension.

He will therefore miss the Euro's by default as he won't be selected and, as part of his 10 game suspension, will miss the remainder of Slavia's games this season and next seasons qualifiers.

If you add the international games that he won't be selected for then the total number of games missed will be more than the actual suspension and means he misses out on a major Finals which would, in all probability, be his last.
 
From the original Twitter post, Kudela's 10 match ban includes the previous game against Arsenal. So by the end of tomorrow's game he could be looking at only 8 more games suspended.

If they win tomorrow, 6 after the semis have been completed. If they reached the final, only 5.

I don't know if they ban includes international friendlies, the Czech's have two organised before the Euros.

If Slavia go further in the Europa League and he was selected for the Euros. He could possibly be playing European football early next season.
In this scenario the player would have missed a European run to the final - and likely the entire run in the Euros. For a player his age that's likely something he will never experience again. I think it's more likely he will miss them getting papped out tomorrow - and not get selected for the Euros meaning he has 8 games still to serve so he misses most of Slavias campaign next season
 
That statement from Slavia just shows they knew he was guilty and are delighted the team has not been banned.

Their action since the incident has all been about muddying the waters
 
If Slavia act like that from the off, you can't fault them and you actually feel sorry for them that one knuckle dagger makes them look awful.

Having the nerve to act like they didn't do everything in their power to defend Kudela and paint Kamara out as the bad guy is genuinely sickening.
 
They would argue there’s no proof of Kudela as well

They’ll have gone on reports from the delegates and officials and maybe questioned folk
Ffs, are you Michael Stewart? Only a fuck8ng moron/racist would argue about no proof against Kudela. You see the sneaky bastard way he covers his mouth, the immediate reaction from Kamara and Zungu, you hear Zungu shout he called him a fucking monkey, you see Goldson going nuts, we are the team getting knocked out, Kamara is a quiet, respectful human being with no nastiness/controversy of any sort, their defence is they said he called Kamara a fuck8ng guy. No Rangers fan or decent human would give a %^*& what they say/have said, no credence and shamelees scum. Who needs enemies.

As for Kamaras punishment, of course they would go on reports/testimony from all who were there and CCTV from Rangers too.
 
So Kudela will miss the euros.
Convenient that he wont coming over. Missing the games at Hampden and Wembley.

Police Scotland should have questioned him when he was over for Wales game.

Makes a joke of Uefas "Say no to Racism" campaign.
We should’ve reported it to the Police immediately and he should’ve been questioned and/or charged before scuttling off home.
 
That statement from Slavia just shows they knew he was guilty and are delighted the team has not been banned.

Their action since the incident has all been about muddying the waters
That team has acted deplorably yet Rangers are the team fined for behaviour. Their "muddying" very much worked with Kamara getting a ban.
 
Ffs, are you Michael Stewart? Only a fuck8ng moron/racist would argue about no proof against Kudela. You see the sneaky bastard way he covers his mouth, the immediate reaction from Kamara and Zungu, you hear Zungu shout he called him a fucking monkey, you see Goldson going nuts, we are the team getting knocked out, Kamara is a quiet, respectful human being with no nastiness/controversy of any sort, their defence is they said he called Kamara a fuck8ng guy. No Rangers fan or decent human would give a %^*& what they say/have said, no credence and shamelees scum. Who needs enemies.

As for Kamaras punishment, of course they would go on reports/testimony from all who were there and CCTV from Rangers too.
Why are you angry with him? He is right. Proof and evidence are not the same thing at all. Zungu saying he heard the same thing is evidence. TV picking it up is proof. UEFA have decided that there is enough evidence to assume guilt, without guilt actually being proven. It is, all things considered, the correct decision from them in this instance.
 
In this scenario the player would have missed a European run to the final - and likely the entire run in the Euros. For a player his age that's likely something he will never experience again. I think it's more likely he will miss them getting papped out tomorrow - and not get selected for the Euros meaning he has 8 games still to serve so he misses most of Slavias campaign next season

I think that's more likely too.

However, I'm just highlighting that the ban should have been even more.
 
Kudelas International career is now over. At 34 he will miss his last big tournament and potentially EL semi/final. Realistically he will miss some very big games, so far so good. He'll also be tagged as a racist for the rest of his career. However UEFA have missed the boat here. They obviously believe he's guilty so why not a lifetime or at least a year's ban? Do they not think its serious enough. Officials have rightly been banned longer for bribery,corruption etc so is racism less of a crime?
What's the punishment for the club who employ the racist? Our stand was closed because of the behaviour of fans. Should Slavia not have been punished for their players behaviour?
Also, they're at it.... Hold a workshop for racism?
Also, our fine... Exactly what are we being punished for?
Maybe (this is a guess) its because the evidence is Kamara and Zungu's word against Kudela's?
If he was for instance on video clearly saying it (not covering his mouth) or there was audio they could throw the book at him. This way they'll see it as keeping both camps relatively happy.

We were fined for having 2 players sent off and several bookings, thats standard.
 
Ffs, are you Michael Stewart? Only a fuck8ng moron/racist would argue about no proof against Kudela. You see the sneaky bastard way he covers his mouth, the immediate reaction from Kamara and Zungu, you hear Zungu shout he called him a fucking monkey, you see Goldson going nuts, we are the team getting knocked out, Kamara is a quiet, respectful human being with no nastiness/controversy of any sort, their defence is they said he called Kamara a fuck8ng guy. No Rangers fan or decent human would give a %^*& what they say/have said, no credence and shamelees scum. Who needs enemies.

As for Kamaras punishment, of course they would go on reports/testimony from all who were there and CCTV from Rangers too.
Kudela obviously said something racist but there isn't any concrete proof to people that didn't hear it due to him covering his mouth, there is no need to insult him for saying they could resort to this technicality because they obviously could.

It's why there are now calls to fine players for covering their mouths.
 
Would Roofe's ban include the Euros if he wasn't chosen in the England squad? NO!

If he ain't in the squad - it can't count.
Correct, and I can’t see him being picked for the squad if he’s not available, so 2 matches against Arsenal, another 2 if they get to the semis, 1 if they get to the final and 5 next season, or 8 next season if Arsenal pap them out.
 
I've not read the whole thread, so I apologise if this has been discussed, but due to the pathetic booking he got during the game, Kamara would have missed our next UEFA game anyway. Is this 3 game ban on top of the one game ban he already had?
 
Anybody else watching Piara Power on SSN about this right now ?

This is a bizarre outlook from him. Almost seems happy it's only 10 games.

Power once called a person of ethnic minority a 'coconut' - one of the worst racial slurs there is. I have no respect for him.

FARE are also part funded by the EU and have a partnership with UEFA.

His stance isn't entirely surprising - part of the problem rather than part of the solution.
 
RTV cameras captured racist abuse on camera?
They didn't. They captured Kudela covering his mouth and saying something. There was no conclusive proof. There was a corroborating version of events from Zungu. That's evidence, not proof. If it was clearly picked up on camera or audio (or by an official) he would have been banned for longer IMO
 
It’s scandalous that Kamara has been banned for reacting to racism, and that the club has been fined because the players reacted.

The message that sends out by Uefa, is if you react in any way to racism, then you will be punished too. That is abhorrent.

The worst part in all of this for me was not the actual incident of racism itself, bad as it was. It was the actions and comments of that club and its fans afterwards, trying to accuse Kamara and Rangers of lying, that they themselves were the victims, and the many racist messages from their fans afterwards.

%^*& Uefa and %^*& Slavia.
 
Would Roofe's ban include the Euros if he wasn't chosen in the England squad? NO!

If he ain't in the squad - it can't count.
Thankfully for Roofe he’s going to play in a different confederation for Jamaica.

If Kudela is declared injured I’m pretty sure it still counts as a game he’s banned from. It really should be games he’s declared fit for.
 
Our statement seems to settle the maximum v minimum argument. Glad we are appearing the Kamara one though


"We welcome the suspension imposed on Ondrej Kudela. This not only vindicates Glen Kamara’s evidence but underlines the severity of the comment, given the maximum number of games has been imposed by UEFA."
 
They didn't. They captured Kudela covering his mouth and saying something. There was no conclusive proof. There was a corroborating version of events from Zungu. That's evidence, not proof. If it was clearly picked up on camera or audio (or by an official) he would have been banned for longer IMO
He was not talking about the actual incident I thought, it looked like he was talking about further racial abuse AFTER the 'punch'. We know the initial incident was not caught on camera, which is why I questioned him.
 
It’s scandalous that Kamara has been banned for reacting to racism, and that the club has been fined because the players reacted.

The message that sends out by Uefa, is if you react in any way to racism, then you will be punished too. That is abhorrent.

The worst part in all of this for me was not the actual incident of racism itself, bad as it was. It was the actions and comments of that club and its fans afterwards, trying to accuse Kamara and Rangers of lying, that they themselves were the victims, and the many racist messages from their fans afterwards.

%^*& Uefa and %^*& Slavia.
We really need to leave the pitch next time (they’ll be a next time) and then see if they fine us.
 
Glad to see we are appealing both Roofe and Kamara.

Both bans are ridiculous.

The Kudela ban is far too light but I am not sure we are in a position to appeal a ban on a player of another club, especially to lengthen it. Perhaps we just have to leave it to others to deliver the flak to UEFA over that (they'll be getting plenty).

EDIT - We should have got our statement correct regarding this being the minimum punishment and not the maximum. Only published at 5.01pm so it should be retracted and a revised one issued immediately.
 
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Thankfully for Roofe he’s going to play in a different confederation for Jamaica.

If Kudela is declared injured I’m pretty sure it still counts as a game he’s banned from. It really should be games he’s declared fit for.
In a normal qualifying game there's no real limit on the number of players selected so he would be named in the squad anyway. In this case there is a limit (23 or 25) on the number of players picked
 
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