bornabluenose
Well-Known Member
Still hating the game to death .
We should have brought them down years ago.We now need to bring Celtic and the SFA down otherwise we’re going to be on the back foot for all eternity to these bastards.
We should have brought them down years ago.
Could this persecution be our ticket to
England and out of this Planet of the Papes.
It’s coming.No, for the millionth time.
There is no mythical ‘ticket to England’.
I may not be 100% on this but my recollection is at the time of application this tax liability was in dispute or under discussion with a resolution to be expected.
I understand there are other clubs who at that time were in the same position with their relevant tax authorities.
Our tax bill may have eventually gone unpaid due to some of Murray's companies including the Rangers holding company going into liquidation.
The crucial point being at the time of the UEFA application the tax bill was not unpaid but under discussion with the authorities so was perfectly ligit.
The only evidence against Rangers is evidence given and behaviour by Craig Whyte, a paragon of virtue, truth and integrity.I’d imagine the crux of this is whether we stated on our application to UEFA that there was a tax matter but it was being disputed. Assuming we did that, I can’t see what case there is to answer
They can fine us £5000.I get all the "well go to war" and "bring it on" posts and totally agree, I dont think for a minute SFA have a case here, however, with liewells puppets now in place they'll try every trick in the book. What is the absolute worst case scenario for us if they did pursue, and win this. As I say i dont imagine for a second they will, but I'm curious what could happen.
I get all the "well go to war" and "bring it on" posts and totally agree, I dont think for a minute SFA have a case here, however, with liewells puppets now in place they'll try every trick in the book. What is the absolute worst case scenario for us if they did pursue, and win this. As I say i dont imagine for a second they will, but I'm curious what could happen.
As I understand it, the issue is whether we made UEFA aware of a tax liability in our application to take part in UEFA club competitions for season 2011/12.
Much as I'd love to blame CW for this, he didn't complete his takeover until 6/5/11. I believe applications for UEFA tournaments are submitted before this date and so would have been submitted by previous board. As long as we were in dispute with HMRC at the time of the application, this is simply no case to answer
As I understand it, the issue is whether we made UEFA aware of a tax liability in our application to take part in UEFA club competitions for season 2011/12.
Much as I'd love to blame CW for this, he didn't complete his takeover until 6/5/11. I believe applications for UEFA tournaments are submitted before this date and so would have been submitted by previous board. As long as we were in dispute with HMRC at the time of the application, this is simply no case to answer
The SFA fining us isn't the goal here though is it?There's a few panty wetters in here.
Remember the facts: it would cost hundreds of thousands of pounds to take this to CAS, risking UEFA intervention in the SFA, in order to fine us a few thousand pounds.
It is NOT going to happen.
This is nothing more than a deflection tactic by the Crash Barriers because of the shit storm coming their way re 50 years of CA.
If they pursue this we go to fucking war.
Correct.The case was rejected on the basis that the club considered the matter in dispute with HMRC. It was re-opened two years ago because former directors at the Craig Whyte trial claimed the club knew the amount would be payable and that the dispute was essentially a stalling tactic. This was the basis in which the SFA reopened the investigation.
The SFA were told by their own panel that the matter would need to be dealt with by CAS under the Five-Way Agreement. They have yet to submit the matter to CAS. After two years, I think that says everything about the strength of their case.
If they pursue this we go to fucking war.
Celtc are about to realise they are the pariahs of world football.
This is a deflection tactic from their own heinous crimes.
The only evidence against Rangers is evidence given and behaviour by Craig Whyte, a paragon of virtue, truth and integrity.
The SFA punished Craig Whyte £200,000, for not being a "fit and proper person" who laughed in their face, the club was also fined £160,000 whilst being in administration, for 5 offences including " bringing the game into disrepute."
The SFA then “expelled Craig Whyte for life from any participation in Association Football in Scotland.”
How the SFA intend to take further retrospective action against a club they have already punished, for alleged crimes committed by someone who they have imposed a life ban on is simply incredulous.
This prosecution of Rangers will rely solely on the evidence of Craig Whyte, it should be fun.
I think this farce may be designed to be equivalent to 4 decades of child abuse, and concealment of by every director(except the bunnet) of Celtic since. They are trying to use this as some sort of lifeline.
PS I believe that the SFA deducted the CW £200000 fine from Rangers prize money.
Part of the rules for Europa League 18/19 are below, obvs things may have changed since 2011. Reads to me that any licence would be granted by SFAThis would be CW’s fault. I can’t remember the exact details without looking things up, but the rules had various dates by which certain things had to be certified, and one of them fell after CW’s time (30th June from memory.)
The compliance officer found that the declarations made before CW’s time were not misleading so that part wasn’t pursued.
The complaint then morphed into an allegation that a misrepresentation was made during CW’s time, which is how we got to where we are.
Craig Whyte took Rangers over before the end of the 2010-2011 season. He would have been in charge at the time UEFA licences were being approved.As I understand it, the issue is whether we made UEFA aware of a tax liability in our application to take part in UEFA club competitions for season 2011/12.
Much as I'd love to blame CW for this, he didn't complete his takeover until 6/5/11. I believe applications for UEFA tournaments are submitted before this date and so would have been submitted by previous board. As long as we were in dispute with HMRC at the time of the application, this is simply no case to answer