Rangers' 3 Covid sinners in line for Livingston comeback as fast track no go sets up instant reprieve

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All along I suspected that there was a different tone to this breach. The players met up with other players outside of work and their partners. They didn’t go meet randoms and have an all night drinking party.

Obviously both are wrong in the current climate but the more recent incident is a lot less egregious than the other debacle. I think based on this the club agree with that line of thought.

Of course the conspiracy will remain that these latter player are more valuable to the squad so got treated lightly. There may well be a grain of truth in that line of thinking but it’s not the whole story.
 
mkgers said:
They've been fined by the Police which covers the legal angle and they've been disciplined by the club which covers housekeeping angle. Did they actually breach SFA regs? They didn't come in to training and risk spreading it so I'm not sure the SFA can do anything?
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The SFA can charge them under disciplinary rules 24 and 77, which relate to conduct.
 
They will be punished internally and no doubt by the spfl. But we shouldn't shoot ourselves in the foot right now. Wait til the spfl hand them their bans as I don't think they will allow the ban to be retrospectively applied.

We find ourself in a position where having Patterson at least on the bench is becoming a neccesity. Injuries are racking up and we want to continue our run in Europe.
 
The whole thing sums up the people running football in this country tbh.

They gave Jones and Edmundson 7 game bans right away. Has anyone else received such a punishment?

They then completely ignored Celtic's shenanigans in Dubai.

Now they seem to be ignoring this. The lack of consistency is bizarre.

None of the clubs can moan about it though, they had a chance last summer to investigate these numpties and refused.
 
None of them should play again this season unless we are in dire straits injury wise.
Their actions were ridiculously stupid and reckless, they shouldn't be rewarded with first team football unless it is a necessity.
 
No surprise that the SFA have shown absolutely zero consistency with how they deal with those who break Covid rules.

Have any the EPL players been banned for breaking the rules?
 
I think the players involved were thick, selfish arseholes but if anything about their escapades is still irritating the feck out of what passes as journalists in Scotland, then...good!
Feck them all, and the scruffy old nag they rode in on.
 
Smkz23 said:
The SFA can charge them under disciplinary rules 24 and 77, which relate to conduct.
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Presumably that's what the other 2 got done under then. I dont think they will ban them as there has been one major incident which is yet to to be mentioned by them.
 
dt17 said:
The whole thing sums up the people running football in this country tbh.

They gave Jones and Edmundson 7 game bans right away. Has anyone else received such a punishment?

They then completely ignored Celtic's shenanigans in Dubai.

Now they seem to be ignoring this. The lack of consistency is bizarre.

None of the clubs can moan about it though, they had a chance last summer to investigate these numpties and refused.
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Aberdeen 8 - polluted the club bubble - no ban
Bolingoli - polluted the club bubble & played in a game - 3 games
Various players carpooling - almost cost their clubs 3pts per game - no ban
Brown and Lennon socialising - outwith the elite privileges - no ban
at least 9 yahoos around a table in a bar - breaking elite privileges - no ban

the Dubai bar one is on a par with Jones & Edmundson

the 5 is on a par with the carpoolers


"team most affected by Covid" my arse
 
LaudrupTheGreat said:
They have already missed 3 games and personally given the circumstances around how the SFA run out game we should be dealing with this internally.

Sitting in your house having a pizza and being fined and suspended is probably adequate enough IF you compare to going to Dubai and getting leathered in public bars and sent home etc.
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Rangers and sfa were talking 2 weeks ago think rangers would say about other clubs punishment to players not at same level as Jones 7 game ban
 
"Record Sport understands Patterson, Bassey and Zungu will also be punished by the disciplinary chiefs but – as their cases cannot be fast-tracked – all three could be available for next week’s trip to Livi"

Has any other players from any other club been punished by "disciplinary chiefs" ?
 
barrheadbear said:
Spot on.

We have to be seen doing the right thing therefore I'd be shocked if the club have not given the players a lengthy suspension.
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There is doing the right thing, something we have already done. We have set standards and internal disciplinary process should always remain private as it would with any other employer.

if the SFA chose to further punish these players and do nothing over Dubai then we cannot accept a judicial process that is so blatantly unfair.
 
I think this is an admission the club got it wrong with Jones and Edmundson. Well, maybe the club got it right but never saw the ridiculous punishment from the SFA.

So, they have been fined by plod, but the Rhetard wants Rangers AND the SFA to punish them too? For the same thing?

Any news on any disciplinary action for sending Bobby Madden to Greece?

Or for all those U-21 players who had to isolate?
 
Hysterical nonsense.

I'd imagine SFA and Rangers have already spoken. Agreement they players do not play until the judgement comes down. Any ban will be backdated to time we stopped playing them.

Or maybe that is too logical for the SFA?
 
Pepe Silvia said:
Posted this in the other thread aswell but had a conversation with a Tim about this yesterday. He started it by saying the SFA are corrupt to the core cause the 5 haven’t been punished yet.

I asked what punishment they got for Dubai and he responded by saying half there team had to miss two games.
I then pointed out that that wasn’t a punishment but just following protocols as they had came into contact with someone that tested positive for covid.

Even when I said that Kennedy had publicaly came out and admitted that protocols were breached he still couldn’t understand that they hadn’t been punished in anyway for going to Dubai.

They can’t punish our players if they let the tims off Scot free with Dubai.
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I fully expect the players to be handed match bans in due course, but I am interested to see if the SFA are brazen enough to do so without punishing the Yahoos for Dubaigate first.

If they don’t we’re back to the same situation we were with players of ours being punished by the CO for offences that footballers from other clubs get away with.

It’s about consistency and transparency.

Why did Edmundson and Jones receive lengthier bans than Bolingnoli and the Aberdeen lot for instance?
What was the criteria employed to decide the length of punishment in each case?
Did we challenge this?
If so, what were the explanations given?
If not, why?

We would be completely within our rights to question why there’s been no SFA punishment of Celtic’s players for Dubai if Bassey, Patterson, Zungu, etc are handed bans before then.

It impedes our ability to name the squad we’d like for games so it’s entirely reasonable that we should expect our main challengers to be similarly disadvantaged.
 
Northhiglander said:
There is doing the right thing, something we have already done. We have set standards and internal disciplinary process should always remain private as it would with any other employer.

if the SFA chose to further punish these players and do nothing over Dubai then we cannot accept a judicial process that is so blatantly unfair.
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I did not mention a SFA ban and as has been pointed out quite vociferously on FF if the SFA do act then the club quite rightly could claim double standards, pointing out there (SFA) refusal to issue any punishment after the Scum Dubai debacle last month.

It is all a matter of opinion and I personally would be disappointed if the club brought the 5 players back into contention for inclusion in matchday squads as early as next midweek.

Personally I was expecting the players to be missing for the rest of season, especially when you consider this is the 2nd such break at the club and after the original one, SFA hit Jones and Edmundson with 7 game bans.

Just have to wait and see how it all plays out.
 
dh1963 said:
Basically an article by Jackson calling for them to be banned as soon as possible and questioning whether Rangers are going to punish them.

He's a Judas prick.
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Would this witch hunt happen with any other club in the league? Or any other league? The SFA have got to be stronger than being influenced by this shite from opposition supporters. We all know that they are not. We should fight any excessive punishment and I consider 7 games excessive. No other team has received any such punishment and the scum were allowed to go on a jolly, break rules and bring covid back into the country with zero punishment.
 
I'm torn on this, they absolutely need taught a lesson that taking liberties could cost the group but Bassey & Patterson are at that age where game time is vital. Zungu can do one. For me... Get them in, get them a game and let's start looking forward rather than back.
 
Henrywatson115 said:
that prick hannah stated on clyde the other night the sfa were getting ready to charge them all .it will be interesting as they've done nothing to celtic
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could probably walk outside and get more information on the situation from a stray cat, Hannah knows nothing

unless anything happens from Dubai, I'd expect to see Patterson at least back in the main squad pretty soon then
 
They've been fined by the police and fined by the club and made a public apology. More than certain other clubs have done. They've been punished enough.

It wasn't as if they were at some random person's party with a bunch of strangers. Team mates socialising together with their girlfriends. No more risk than it would normally be.

Get them back in the squad and available for selection.
 
Pepe Silvia said:
Posted this in the other thread aswell but had a conversation with a Tim about this yesterday. He started it by saying the SFA are corrupt to the core cause the 5 haven’t been punished yet.

I asked what punishment they got for Dubai and he responded by saying half there team had to miss two games.
I then pointed out that that wasn’t a punishment but just following protocols as they had came into contact with someone that tested positive for covid.

Even when I said that Kennedy had publicaly came out and admitted that protocols were breached he still couldn’t understand that they hadn’t been punished in anyway for going to Dubai.

They can’t punish our players if they let the tims off Scot free with Dubai.
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Absolutely 100% this ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 
I’d be worried about Rangers putting the players straight back into match day squads without cast iron evidence from the SFA /SPFL that we can do so with out any further sanctions.

The way these bastards work they’d hammer us for fielding an ineligible player and we’d forfeit any game they played in or even were in the squad for
 
Clearly the Corruption Officer couldn’t cite them on a Fast-track, as COVID isolation rules would prevent them from attending a hearing.

Looks like this might be getting saved up as the first piece of work for the new Compliance Officer when he starts his job on 1st March.

By that time, any citing for a breach will probably be too late for these players to miss our next twk
League games

We should be boxing clever and including them in the squads. With Tav, Jack and Roofe all out for 2-3 weeks, we need to look after the best prospects of the team, to ensure we give ourselves the best chance of progression in Europa and and clinching the Leaguw ASAP.

Let any bans which follow take effect.
 
PMB1872 said:
To be fair, we’d be calling for a suspension if it was any other team’s players so let’s not be hypocritical. They’re due a ban. It is what it is.
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Shouldn't you address the Dubai situation in your post. I don't expect a Scottish journalist to do so as they are biased pricks. But it should be something a Rangers supporter acknowledges whilst discussing banning our own players?
Surely?
 
HandsomeHead said:
I fully expect the players to be handed match bans in due course, but I am interested to see if the SFA are brazen enough to do so without punishing the Yahoos for Dubaigate first.

If they don’t we’re back to the same situation we were with players of ours being punished by the CO for offences that footballers from other clubs get away with.

It’s about consistency and transparency.

Why did Edmundson and Jones receive lengthier bans than Bolingnoli and the Aberdeen lot for instance?
What was the criteria employed to decide the length of punishment in each case?
Did we challenge this?
If so, what were the explanations given?
If not, why?

We would be completely within our rights to question why there’s been no SFA punishment of Celtic’s players for Dubai if Bassey, Patterson, Zungu, etc are handed bans before then.

It impedes our ability to name the squad we’d like for games so it’s entirely reasonable that we should expect our main challengers to be similarly disadvantaged.
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This with bells on. There would be a genuine double standard and hypocrisy if our boys were given playing suspensions from anyone but the club.
 
Great news.

Get Patterson in the team for the next league game. Balogun is the ideal choice for tonight with his experience and us trying to protect a lead in Europe.
 
Why does there have to be a ban? Yes they were stupid and they have paid the price but in the EPL for instance I haven’t heard of one player being banned like Grealish, Walker at al
 
Not a chance in hell will we see these players in the match day squad any time soon. Typical rag and pish journo trying to stir the pot.
 
Why don't we just release a statement saying the players bans will come after the investigation into Dubai players breaches are completed. And given the photographic evidence there will be bans there too I expect?
 
They might not get back in the team right away. But if Gerrard thinks it is the right thing to do for the team, they will play.

Btw I think we’ll fight any over draconian ban for them.
 
I'm surprised where all the baying mob with the pitchforks have gone. There are not many on this thread maintaining the hard line stance. I am happy the club will see fit to deal with them as they deem necessary. SG will handle it well.
 
Might as well use them when they're available (should the management see fit). Not playing them won't help us. We tried to do the right thing with Edmundson and Jones but the league still saw fit to give ridiculous 7 game bans.
 
Salamanca said:
Shamed Rangers trio Nathan Patterson, Calvin Bassey and Bongani Zungu could all be free to face Livingston next week despite being fined by cops for a recent high-profile Covid rule breach.

And Patterson is even available available for Thursday's Europa League showdown against Antwerp after being allowed back with the squad.

The three players issued grovelling apologies on the club’s internal media platform after being banished into self-isolation for attending an illegal house party this month.

But there has been no suggestion yet from Rangers bosses they will now face a suspension from Steven Gerrard’s Auchenhowie HQ – despite Jordan Jones and George Edmundson previously being punished with two-week bans for being involved in a similar late night incident at a flat in Glasgow’s west end. They were later further hammered with seven game suspensions after being charged by the SFA’s compliance officer.

Record Sport understands Patterson, Bassey and Zungu will also be punished by the disciplinary chiefs but – as their cases cannot be fast-tracked – all three could be available for next week’s trip to Livi.

That means Patterson could even be in line for a starting place, with first choice right-back James Tavernier still missing.

In a statement issued in the name of Gerrard and sporting director Ross Wilson there was no mention of club bans for the three first-team stars nor for academy kids Brian Kinnear and Dapo Mebude who were also present at the party.

Loanee Mebude, though, could be free for Queen of the South’s clash with Dunfermline and the statement read: “Over the course of the last week, we have both ensured that all our players understand our expectations when you are part of this great club.

“The players involved have been left in no uncertain terms as to the standards everyone here is expected to adhere to. It has been an extremely difficult week for those players following their admission of an error of judgement whilst dealing with the consequences of their actions.

“Our internal discussions were supported by the immediate honesty shown by the players and an appreciation they fell well below the standards we expect at Rangers Football Club, day in and day out.

“Those standards form the foundation that we have set as a club in order to achieve our targets as a team.

“The first-team squad players have now returned to Auchenhowie. We are both now satisfied that the players completely understand their obligations to our club and accept with sincerity the strong disciplinary sanctions that we have imposed upon them for letting us all down.

“We accept their apologies to the club, their team-mates and the fans, for whom we are forever grateful for their resolute support and loyalty.”

Patterson told RangersTV: “I want to apologise to my family. I’ve apologised to the players and assured them nothing like this will ever happen again.

“I’ve spoken to the gaffer and I’ve spoken to Ross at great length about the situation and how we move forward.

“I apologise to the fans. Being a Rangers fan since birth and being a player here since the age of eight, I know the privileges and I know the meaning behind the shirt and the high standards expected at this top club.”

Bassey said: “I’d like to apologise to my family for putting them through this hard time
“I want to say sorry to the players, to the board, to the manager, to Ross and lastly to the fans.

“I’m sorry for my mistakes and hopefully I can move forward and fulfil my potential at this great club.”

Zungu added: “I’d like to apologise to the Rangers fans. It’s been a great season so far for the club and my message is I’d like to apologise.”
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#Hey yeah, you corned beef face...#
 
I'd want it in writing from Bungcaster that the players are free to play.

New compliance officer's first task could be to dock us 20 points for fielding ineligible players, after an email telling us they were banned gets mysteriously lost in cyberspace by a make believe firewall.
 
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Spart7 said:
Quite right too. We gave the other 2 self imposed bans then lost them for 7 additional games afterwards whilst no other club or their players have received more than a fine for similar or worse breaches. Idiots, undoubtedly, but consistency and us being treated differently is the matter at hand, not what we as fans think their punishment should be.
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Wasn’t it 2 weeks quarantine not a ban, similarly this time around it was 10 days quarantine ?
 
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