ThorntonMM
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Examples of the pattern of assistance Celtic benefit from on a weekly basis.
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Rangers are 0-4 on penalties this season when they should be 5-3 minimum. Celtic are 4-1 on penalties with a few soft ones.
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Examples of the pattern of assistance Celtic benefit from on a weekly basis.
scottyf2025
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Today's pen for Celtic was never a pen absolute joke of a decision, I think us fans should question it cos we won't get done
Jeff Portnoy
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This is exactly what the narrative last year was about and now it's an actual role reversal - however no matter what stats you present- twats like Sutton will always harp on about penalties to Rangers because ultimately they want to have it all their own way.
It will be very hard to try and sway the narrative back without constant messaging in the media about it - which will be difficult as Lawell has his placemen dug in all over the media, SFA and League.
It will be very hard to try and sway the narrative back without constant messaging in the media about it - which will be difficult as Lawell has his placemen dug in all over the media, SFA and League.
Man on the post
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Mibbee we should try a #penaltyceltic campaign or better a #cheatingceltic one highlighting every #doublestandard
willieorwont_he
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Not to start a big deal, but how would that not be a penalty today? The guy wrapped his leg around him.
I was screaming calling the defender and idiot from the beginning. Cant believe it took VAR.
Incredible stuff.
The two incidents in the filth vs Hearts game clearly demonstrates that it isn’t even down to different interpretations by different officials.
Blatant handball by the mentally challengeds waved away whilst a very similar handball by Hearts is given as a penalty.
SubGenius
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The idea that the mainstream print media should still be the valid voice in Scottish football reporting a quarter of the way through the 21st century is actually ridiculous.
X/Twitter and Meta/Facebook, etc should have access to a far bigger swathe of the general Scottish football fanbase and that’s where we have greater control over what content is created.
Jock Battle Fever Wallace
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Just human error apparently mate. Let's forget it and move on. It evens itself out we're told. Still waiting for that..
SSR
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And said penalty they missed and got to take again Because keeper off line
Celtic have late penalty drama against Ross County!
Take a look at Celtics third goal against Ross County which included VAR controversy, a retaken penalty and a bullish celebration from Arne Engels!
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ThorntonMM
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Remember Todd Cantwell being totally clattered in the box from Maeda and Sutton saying he goes down far too easily.And said penalty they missed and got to take again Because keeper off line
Celtic have late penalty drama against Ross County!
Take a look at Celtics third goal against Ross County which included VAR controversy, a retaken penalty and a bullish celebration from Arne Engels!www.skysports.com
Withambear
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Referees have been intimidaated into not giving us any decisions and not giving any decisions against them .
The “penalty to Rangers “ campaign has paid dividends as well as the alleged threats to term and their family aided by the msm dissection of every debatable decision that goes in our favour .
Our “ dignified silence” has cost us dearly and the current regime are content with it to continue
The “penalty to Rangers “ campaign has paid dividends as well as the alleged threats to term and their family aided by the msm dissection of every debatable decision that goes in our favour .
Our “ dignified silence” has cost us dearly and the current regime are content with it to continue
Calderwoodloyal
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Not seen if mentioned on another thread and yes it’s a bit of a rhetorical question but I just happened to catch the Ross Co penalty in the pub yesterday.
My understanding of the rules are that the “double punishment rule” of penalty and a red doesn’t apply if the offender is making a legitimate attempt at playing the ball however is still applied if the foul is for deliberate handball and/or foul play with no intent to play the ball and denying a clear goal scoring opportunity. Plug at no point tried to play the ball and barged a guy 4 yards out from a near empty net preventing him from scoring …..
Have I missed something? A rule change perhaps?
My understanding of the rules are that the “double punishment rule” of penalty and a red doesn’t apply if the offender is making a legitimate attempt at playing the ball however is still applied if the foul is for deliberate handball and/or foul play with no intent to play the ball and denying a clear goal scoring opportunity. Plug at no point tried to play the ball and barged a guy 4 yards out from a near empty net preventing him from scoring …..
Have I missed something? A rule change perhaps?
QueensferryCR3Bear
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It stinks.
It's cheating.
It's been going on for years now.
Club wont act.
Fans wont act.
Club is playing for titles with its legs tied together.
It's cheating.
It's been going on for years now.
Club wont act.
Fans wont act.
Club is playing for titles with its legs tied together.
QueensferryCR3Bear
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No you've not missed anything.
AndySG
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Yep. Their fans (including those in the media) have done a far better job than we have. We’re the team that gets all the decisions (despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary), we have divers and cheats while they have clever and experienced players, etc
weebudsbud
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"Just win games and these incidents won`t matter" say some on here.
Well it DOES matter. It`s cheating. And every club is being fkked over and these diddy clubs can`t/won`t care or do anything about it.
This cheating CAN be stopped but we can`t do it ourselves.
TommyEgan
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This is what baffles me. Weve got fans groups organising a stadium walk out, but noone organising any sort of protests against the corrupt SFA/SPFL.
Probably if history is anything to go by the yellows will be handed out in last 10-15 minutes so therefore don't have any impact on the game.
Chubster
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We've not been good enough this season but the rigged
He's on the payroll!
Sutton said the same about Hagi after he was clattered on the edge of the box in the OF game.
He's on the payroll!
Yesterday Ross county lad recieved a yellow for making an attempt for the ball in giving away a penalty.
The bonny one at celtc made no attempt for the ball when giving away a penalty & no card given?
Even on Sportscene, they were actually asking why no red, never mind a yellow?
Dougie Gray
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We didnt help ourselves by playing into that narrative by the way.
ThorntonMM
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Yip, our fans loved it.
Remember we also had a couple of morons produce a John Beaton loyal flag. He's absolutely shafted Rangers time and time again since then.
GreigC
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Not strictly true…
There was actually a rule change from
“Genuine attempt to play the ball”
To
“Challenge for the ball”
Subtle, but probably addresses genuine tackles where the ball was likely never winnable being seen as reds even with double jeopardy
I’m not sure how charging through the back of someone, can be seen as an attempt to challenge for the ball however
The problem I’ve got with this video, is there are some debatable penalties for us being described as stonewall (st Johnstone away, which I actually don’t think is)
The Hearts penalty for them being described as soft, despite it being stonewall, and the penalty hearts didn’t get in that game being in there because it hits a nonpunishable part of the arm (ludicrous in itself, but that’s the law, not the interpretation)
Infact, all 3 of those decisions have been played with audio and with Collum explaining the reasoning
When we start incorrectly describing things that are correct, we lose the focus. Even the Hagi one last week I don’t think should be in there as I don’t think it’s obviously enough wrong (I don’t think it’s a penalty, but I agree with the KMI lot on that I don’t think VAR can get involved)
Battle Fever's On
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I've not seen it but are you saying the pen celtc got was a stonewaller?
madride
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If that’s the rule then why did VAR get involved to gift their team a penalty yesterday?
GreigC
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I’ve not seen it so I don’t know
I just don’t think the Hagi one was clearly wrong. I’m 55/45 that it wasn’t a penalty. The KMI lot were 3:2 it wasn’t. There were plenty on here saying it was right to give it, plenty saying it wasn’t
I don’t think VAR gets involved in the Hagi one in either regard. Not to give it, if not given on field either
It’s about the “clear and obvious” aspect, nothing else
Cambuslangger
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The bigger issue was the non red card for AJ. Game changing…..again.
Souttar one against Hibs being described as soft despite it being a stonewaller. The Scales against Dundee as well it's cut for a reason because it's from a throw in it's a natural position when going upto winning a header and can't be described as deliberate. A stonewall penalty last weekend for hitting the chest as well.
The videos like that do no favours at all just highlights that person's bias.
Thornliebank_Bear
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Maybe, but you are incredibly biased too.
In what way am I biased?
GreigC
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Haven’t seen you fire an opinion on the colour of card for Johnston yesterday, we often align on laws questions - interested in your thoughts?
Probably should have been a red the fact he doesn't book him points to the ref thinks it was a goal scoring opportunity not sure why VAR wouldn't highlight that. You'll know far more than me on the ruling but I'm trying not to get myself involved now in these types of threads.
ThorntonMM
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The fact he doesn't even get a card is typical of what we are up against. This would have been highlighted everywhere in social media and the Press if it was a Rangers player.
willieorwont_he
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For me, yes. Both pens in that game were.
Chubster
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We should never lose sight of these stats, along with the 'bookings per foul' stats on another thread.
The impact of these decisions could so far be at least 10 points diffference between ourselves and that lot, and a League Cup.
The gulf isn't as great as the current standings would suggest and maybe if we united and went after this instead of our Board/Investors then at least we'd be targeting the right people.
There have been mistakes made which are our own doing but playing to win when the deck is always stacked against you is nigh on impossible.
The impact of these decisions could so far be at least 10 points diffference between ourselves and that lot, and a League Cup.
The gulf isn't as great as the current standings would suggest and maybe if we united and went after this instead of our Board/Investors then at least we'd be targeting the right people.
There have been mistakes made which are our own doing but playing to win when the deck is always stacked against you is nigh on impossible.
alba73
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Not seen the incident but heard them on the radio saying that there was a possible foul to Ross county in the lead up to the penalty
How many fouls before a free kick is given never mind a yellow?
