Rangers/Loyalist Songs - Tunes We’ve Stolen

deedle

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Requires investigation, but as a football song I believe 'Follow, Follow' pre-dates 'I'm Forever Blowing Bubbles'. It is arguably the oldest established football song anywhere.

'Hello, Hello' was first sung at the latest in 1928 (there is a newspaper report which mentions it).


Both of the songs which Celtic are associated with ('The Celtic Song', 'YNWA') were first sung in the 60s and were nicked from other clubs.


'Super Rangers' should be ditched for several reasons but being based on a Rod Stewart song constitutes yet another.
 

1690

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Interesting thread, been meaning to start a similar one for some time. Of course stuff like our player-related songs are easily identified (Scotty Arfield - Saturday Night, Germain Defoe - Hey Baby, etc), but there's a few more Loyalist ones I'd like to know the origins of.

The Sash is an interesting one, because I think it's original, but the tune used to sound quite different when it was first written in the 1920s. Some flute bands still played it that way in the 50s and 60s.
Derry's Walls - God Bless the Prince of Wales.
Billy Boys - Marching Through Georgia (though there's also a version where the verses are sung to the 18th c. tune Ye Sons of Albion).
Follow Follow - I Will Follow Jesus.
No Pope of Rome - Home on the Range.
The Bouncy - Cock of the North.
The Protestant Boys - Lilliburlero.
I Was Born Under a Union Jack - Wandering Star.
Father's Advice - Fields of Athenry.
Crossmaglen - tarrier version is the original.
Will You Stand - a tarrier song about Bobby Sands.
Copland Road - old Scottish tune (can't remember the name just now).
Four Lads Had a Dream - Sloop John B.
Flute for 50 Pence - John Hark.
Heroes of the UVF - Glory Glory.
C Company UVF - Beautiful Sunday.
Not sure if We're Coming is related to the Tartan Fanny Army's We'll Be Coming?
A lot of tunes also reuse the same tune, eg. "Gibraltar" is pretty much just "The Old Orange Flute." Anyone else noted that Hearts' "Hearts Song" is also actually just "The Old Orange Flute?"

One I've always wanted to know is the origin of Number One Platoon, I'm convinced it's a pre-existing Irish song. Would also be interested to know the origins of King Billy's On the Wall and Build My Gallows. Here Lies a Soldier also dates back to the 70s but not sure if it's original.
 
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Dugsy

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Interesting thread, been meaning to start a similar one for some time. Of course stuff like our player-related songs are easily identified (Scotty Arfield - Saturday Night, Germain Defoe - Hey Baby, etc), but there's a few more Loyalist ones I'd like to know the origins of.

The Sash is an interesting one, because I think it's original, but the tune used to sound quite different when it was first written in the 1920s. Some flute bands still played it that way in the 50s and 60s.
Derry's Walls - God Bless the Prince of Wales.
Billy Boys - Marching Through Georgia (though there's also a version where the verses are sung to the 18th c. tune Ye Sons of Albion).
Follow Follow - I Will Follow Jesus.
No Pope of Rome - Home on the Range.
The Bouncy - Cock of the North.
The Protestant Boys - Lilliburlero.
Father's Advice - Fields of Athenry.
Crossmaglen - tarrier version is the original.
Will You Stand - a tarrier song about Bobby Sands.
Copland Road - old Scottish tune (can't remember the name just now).
Four Lads Had a Dream - Sloop John B.
Flute for 50 Pence - John Hark.
C Company UVF - Beautiful Sunday.
Not sure if We're Coming is related to the Tartan Fanny Army's We'll Be Coming?
A lot of tunes also reuse the same tune, eg. "Gibraltar" is pretty much just "The Old Orange Flute." Anyone else noted that Hearts' "Hearts Song" is also actually just "The Old Orange Flute?"

One I've always wanted to know is the origin of Number One Platoon, I'm convinced it's a pre-existing Irish song. Would also be interested to know the origins of King Billy's On the Wall and Build My Gallows.
Hearts song is ‘Mud Mud Glorious Mud’.

Can remember ‘We Are Coming’ being a Partick Proddy boys FB song being sung in the Rosevale, long before the tartan trannies sang it.
 

dublinbluenose

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Interesting thread, been meaning to start a similar one for some time. Of course stuff like our player-related songs are easily identified (Scotty Arfield - Saturday Night, Germain Defoe - Hey Baby, etc), but there's a few more Loyalist ones I'd like to know the origins of.

The Sash is an interesting one, because I think it's original, but the tune used to sound quite different when it was first written in the 1920s. Some flute bands still played it that way in the 50s and 60s.
Derry's Walls - God Bless the Prince of Wales.
Billy Boys - Marching Through Georgia (though there's also a version where the verses are sung to the 18th c. tune Ye Sons of Albion).
Follow Follow - I Will Follow Jesus.
No Pope of Rome - Home on the Range.
The Bouncy - Cock of the North.
The Protestant Boys - Lilliburlero.
Father's Advice - Fields of Athenry.
Crossmaglen - tarrier version is the original.
Will You Stand - a tarrier song about Bobby Sands.
Copland Road - old Scottish tune (can't remember the name just now).
Four Lads Had a Dream - Sloop John B.
Flute for 50 Pence - John Hark.
C Company UVF - Beautiful Sunday.
Not sure if We're Coming is related to the Tartan Fanny Army's We'll Be Coming?
A lot of tunes also reuse the same tune, eg. "Gibraltar" is pretty much just "The Old Orange Flute." Anyone else noted that Hearts' "Hearts Song" is also actually just "The Old Orange Flute?"

One I've always wanted to know is the origin of Number One Platoon, I'm convinced it's a pre-existing Irish song. Would also be interested to know the origins of King Billy's On the Wall and Build My Gallows. Here Lies a Soldier also dates back to the 70s but not sure if it's original.
Iirc build my gallows comes from a song called bunch of thyme sung by foster and Allen who were in the charts in the 70’s/80’s
Here lies a soldier wasn’t out till the early 80’s I remember buying the single outside the Ibrox subway and the song caught on fairly quickly.
 

dublinbluenose

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The best rendition of this song was the 2-2 game at the piggery
in Sept 1976 at half time when Rangers were leading 2-0. It was
tremendous :)
Ironically we were in the middle of this song when the scum equalised
in the 2-2 game at Ibrox six months later. :(
I always thought the song was a jinx,something would always go wrong on the pitch when we sang it lol
 

Scooby

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Your no awa to bide awa......As I was walking down the Copland road

Jesus loves the little children......Who's that team

The red flag [ I think].........The blue flag
 

EH47

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I know a few songs are stolen from the American Civil war period.

Billy Boys is Marching Through Georgia. We also sing the Sash to Halls of Montezuma. The original tune to the Sash I’ve seen the US army marching to, so I assume both versions of the Sash are derived from America.

Follow Follow is a church hymn.

I’m wondering where our other songs originate from. Not sure about Blue Sea of Ibrox.

What songs aren’t original that we sing? I’ve got Billy Boys, Follow Follow and the Sash (assuming original version is from America).
You've seen the US army marching to the sash?
 

Uddy Gers

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Interesting thread, been meaning to start a similar one for some time. Of course stuff like our player-related songs are easily identified (Scotty Arfield - Saturday Night, Germain Defoe - Hey Baby, etc), but there's a few more Loyalist ones I'd like to know the origins of.

The Sash is an interesting one, because I think it's original, but the tune used to sound quite different when it was first written in the 1920s. Some flute bands still played it that way in the 50s and 60s.
Derry's Walls - God Bless the Prince of Wales.
Billy Boys - Marching Through Georgia (though there's also a version where the verses are sung to the 18th c. tune Ye Sons of Albion).
Follow Follow - I Will Follow Jesus.
No Pope of Rome - Home on the Range.
The Bouncy - Cock of the North.
The Protestant Boys - Lilliburlero.
I Was Born Under a Union Jack - Wandering Star.
Father's Advice - Fields of Athenry.
Crossmaglen - tarrier version is the original.
Will You Stand - a tarrier song about Bobby Sands.
Copland Road - old Scottish tune (can't remember the name just now).
Four Lads Had a Dream - Sloop John B.
Flute for 50 Pence - John Hark.
Heroes of the UVF - Glory Glory.
C Company UVF - Beautiful Sunday.
Not sure if We're Coming is related to the Tartan Fanny Army's We'll Be Coming?
A lot of tunes also reuse the same tune, eg. "Gibraltar" is pretty much just "The Old Orange Flute." Anyone else noted that Hearts' "Hearts Song" is also actually just "The Old Orange Flute?"

One I've always wanted to know is the origin of Number One Platoon, I'm convinced it's a pre-existing Irish song. Would also be interested to know the origins of King Billy's On the Wall and Build My Gallows. Here Lies a Soldier also dates back to the 70s but not sure if it's original.
I believe that the tartan army song is adapted from the UVF version. I think we are coming down the road is an original.
 

1690

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Yes, or some branch of the US armed forces.

I’ve also seen the Queen’s guard march to the Sash.

May I point out this was on YouTube I saw this, not in real life.
Yes, the Irish Guards play the Sash regularly


Never heard the US military play it, but this video definitely sounds like a US band or a US style version

 

temperance

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Don’t really understand this thread. Nearly every song sung at football matches is based on an established tune, whether folk, pop, revivalist hymn or whatever.

’I’m Forever Blowing Bubbles’ was once an American pop song but for 100 years has been the anthem of West Ham United. Does anyone accuse their fans of ‘stealing’ it?
There’s not many, none that I can think of of.
 

Uddy Gers

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Yes, the Irish Guards play the Sash regularly


Never heard the US military play it, but this video definitely sounds like a US band or a US style version

If my memory serves me correct I remember it being played at Donald Trump’s inauguration in 2017.
 

ahalfallover

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Requires investigation, but as a football song I believe 'Follow, Follow' pre-dates 'I'm Forever Blowing Bubbles'. It is arguably the oldest established football song anywhere.

'Hello, Hello' was first sung at the latest in 1928 (there is a newspaper report which mentions it).


Both of the songs which Celtic are associated with ('The Celtic Song', 'YNWA') were first sung in the 60s and were nicked from other clubs.


'Super Rangers' should be ditched for several reasons but being based on a Rod Stewart song constitutes yet another.
Would like to find it
 

tazzabear

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Lillibulero - The Protestant Boys
On that one, I was in New York at the time of, not for, St.Patricks day, a few years back.
Parade was coming along Fifth Avenue playing a tune I was familiar with and surprised at hearing.
I said to the wife, from the dark side, to remember this tune.
Back in the hotel, I played her the tune to The Protestant Boys.
I never did find a republican song to that tune.
 

1690

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On that one, I was in New York at the time of, not for, St.Patricks day, a few years back.
Parade was coming along Fifth Avenue playing a tune I was familiar with and surprised at hearing.
I said to the wife, from the dark side, to remember this tune.
Back in the hotel, I played her the tune to The Protestant Boys.
I never did find a republican song to that tune.
You could argue it's the greatest Protestant/Loyalist song. Written during the actual Glorious Revolution and is now a mainstay song in the military bands and marching bands of at least a dozen countries worldwide.
 
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