Stevie McDougall
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KIP!!!!grrrrrr
Oops ah did it again.
Oops ah did it again.
Dial back the tone. You don’t know anything about me.You really haven't got a clue sonny. Huv ye?
People in the know have made valid points but you just poo hoo them
Neither me or the poster who made a comment re bottle presentation and such like have discouraged anyone not to purchase said item. Stick to commenting on something you know a little about.
Our home top sold out in minutes also and would be considered by most as a poorly executed activation with quality and delivery issues. Quality execution and sales are two very different things. I would buy a Rangers whisky in a heartbeat. I wouldn't buy this, which means they are leaving money on the table.Yeah, really poor execution. That’s why it sold out within minutes of going on sale.
This. Still shocked commercially we haven’t absolutely hammered the bevvy angle given its Scotland.Cost of goods on this incl duty is about £15 - I work in whisky and this is accurate
So that leaves £60 profit per bottle to share between both parties, circa £20k
Hardly life changing amounts but a nice earner nonetheless
I would actually like to see them go further with a 25-30 YO and charge £500 a bottle. If Douglas Laing have the stock then costs wouldn’t be much different so profit becomes £150k between RFC and DL
Proof will be in the tastingsGoing by most whisky tie ins, I'm almost certain it won't be good. Maybe that's the pessimist in me.
That's great.
Used to be a big whiskie man but for some reason it now makes me feel sick and I've became more of a gin drinker.
Nevertheless will be good to get a bottle of the gers one for the novelty
What about glen's vodka and Lidl 17p lemonade? HahaClear alcohols are for rich women on diets.
Ron Swanson Loyal
This. Still shocked commercially we haven’t absolutely hammered the bevvy angle given its Scotland.
Yeah but are they good quality labels? FF wants something to moan about. Are the labels worth £75?My Work printed the labels for the bottle's for these Whiskys.
I don’t think your company make your own casks. Casks come from first fill bourbon used in the states and by law only used once. The second are Spanish Sherry butts or hogsheads, which means your company cannot make them, maybe you mean repair them if they own a Cooperage.Not accurate at all .
They make their own casks and and store them in their own warehouses.It is then bottled in their own bottling halls.
I only said it costs 50p to produce a litre of spirit. Yes of course there are overheads.
But think you missed my point l wouldn't pay that for a bottle which associated with our club boosts the price up.
As an individual amount its not life changing but they are doing 3 bottlings potentially taking it up to 60k and that is just for whisky. Then they can do Gin and Rum and then we are near 200k in alcohol sales and that's just one market.Cost of goods on this incl duty is about £15 - I work in whisky and this is accurate
So that leaves £60 profit per bottle to share between both parties, circa £20k
Hardly life changing amounts but a nice earner nonetheless
I would actually like to see them go further with a 25-30 YO and charge £500 a bottle. If Douglas Laing have the stock then costs wouldn’t be much different so profit becomes £150k between RFC and DL
I believe it's a Glenrothes. If so, and if Speyside whiskies are your bag, then I would think it will be very good. The fact that it's single cask will also be a factor in determining the cost.Douglas Laing specialise in Single Cask bottling.
I'm pretty sure this will be a good one.
What's does a single cask mean when it comes to taste/quality?I believe it's a Glenrothes. If so, and if Speyside whiskies are your bag, then I would think it will be very good. The fact that it's single cask will also be a factor in determining the cost.
It doesn't necessarily mean better but if you accept that every cask has its own unique characteristics then a bottle from one cask is unique and the flavours stand out more. If you get a normal bottle that has come from several casks then you are getting an average of all those flavours and characteristics from all the casks.What's does a single cask mean when it comes to taste/quality?
It’s £ 75 pounds for a rare and limited edition whisky which as it is single cask means it will be non chill- filtered and natural colour unlike a lot of distillery bottlings. It’s expensive but not over priced I am just pointing out why it’s higher than an off the shelf supermarket Auchentoshan or Aberlour.It's the fact that at 75 pounds for a 13 year old single that is the criticism. I can buy a 15 year old single malt for half the price at 43 proof , the fact that there limited amount available is neither here nor there, for a 13 year old single malt the price is excessive. At the end of the day it's a whisky bottle with a label with the Rangers name on it.
Limited edition is nonsense mate, any distillery can and do put the mantle of limited edition, however those malts are usually 25 years old or over, priced into the thousands in many cases. That malt will be sold because it has the Rangers label on it and not because of the rarity of the age. As a malt drinker I can state that there are just as good or better malts around the 14/15/ year mark for a more realistic price and not off a supermarket shelf either. I can understand why bluenoses will buy it but not at that price for meIt’s £ 75 pounds for a rare and limited edition whisky which as it is single cask means it will be non chill- filtered and natural colour unlike a lot of distillery bottlings. It’s expensive but not over priced I am just pointing out why it’s higher than an off the shelf supermarket Auchentoshan or Aberlour.
I agree there will be better drams for a better price. I love Clynelish 14 yo which is a distillery bottling for around 44 pounds. The fact is is vatted with 400 casks to get the quantity Diageo need to supply world trade means it is is not limited edition though. This DL Glenrothes is limited edition as it is single cask. 340 bottles in the world. Is it a better whisky than the clynelish , probably not but that is a reason companies can charge the extra markLimited edition is nonsense mate, any distillery can and do put the mantle of limited edition, however those malts are usually 25 years old or over, priced into the thousands in many cases. That malt will be sold because it has the Rangers label on it and not because of the rarity of the age. As a malt drinker I can state that there are just as good or better malts around the 14/15/ year mark for a more realistic price and not off a supermarket shelf either. I can understand why bluenoses will buy it but not at that price for me
I could buy my wean a blue t-shirt.It's the fact that at 75 pounds for a 13 year old single that is the criticism. I can buy a 15 year old single malt for half the price at 43 proof , the fact that there limited amount available is neither here nor there, for a 13 year old single malt the price is excessive. At the end of the day it's a whisky bottle with a label with the Rangers name on it.
Caol is one whisky I cant drinkSeems a lot to put RFC on the label of a bottle. I could get a Caol Ila 18 years old for £80 or two or three bottles of most 12 years old quality malts for the same price. I doubt the label will give it the rarity value that makes it a good investment either but I could be wrong
Fair enough. Islay malts are very different from Speysides and not for everyone. Caol Ila is my favourite and the 18 year old is sublime to my palateCaol is one whisky I cant drink
I like a mix of myself, even laphroig or lagavulin but didn’t enjoy Caol.Fair enough. Islay malts are very different from Speysides and not for everyone. Caol Ila is my favourite and the 18 year old is sublime to my palate
That's capitalism. You could apply this logic of yours to any purchase. Say, for example, £65 on a Rangers top which is priced as such because of the badge. It certainly does not have a material value of £65. Maybe £3.It's the fact that at 75 pounds for a 13 year old single that is the criticism. I can buy a 15 year old single malt for half the price at 43 proof , the fact that there limited amount available is neither here nor there, for a 13 year old single malt the price is excessive. At the end of the day it's a whisky bottle with a label with the Rangers name on it.
£75.00 a bottle, it needs to be good
Rangers have partnered with Douglas Laing to produce single malt whiskies.
As a malt whisky drinker of many years I can say, imo, it is not a competitive price, take away the Rangers factor, would you pay 75 pounds for a 13 year old single malt, I know I wouldn't but each to their own.That's capitalism. You could apply this logic of yours to any purchase. Say, for example, £65 on a Rangers top which is priced as such because of the badge. It certainly does not have a material value of £65. Maybe £3.
At the end of the day, £75 is a competitive price for this product. End of.
Spot on buddy. My next door neighbour works in the whisky bond and can get Macallan Gold in a box for £18 ,also Highland Park for £20.Totally get why people might want to spend £75 for the Rangers bottle but I'm the same as you in feeling it's too dear. Each to their own.
That's capitalism. You could apply this logic of yours to any purchase. Say, for example, £65 on a Rangers top which is priced as such because of the badge. It certainly does not have a material value of £65. Maybe £3.
At the end of the day, £75 is a competitive price for this product. End of.
According to Castore (at the focus group), 3% of home shirt orders were returned. That included quality issues and people changing size.Our home top sold out in minutes also and would be considered by most as a poorly executed activation with quality and delivery issues. Quality execution and sales are two very different things. I would buy a Rangers whisky in a heartbeat. I wouldn't buy this, which means they are leaving money on the table.
Have a great weekend.
Likewise, I’ve been drinking largely single malts for a very long time and have quite a nice collection. I wouldn’t routinely pay that for a 13 year old, but there’s much more to this than its age.As a malt whisky drinker of many years I can say, imo, it is not a competitive price, take away the Rangers factor, would you pay 75 pounds for a 13 year old single malt, I know I wouldn't but each to their own.
Aye, there probably is, many years ago, 1994 I bought a whisky decanter and glasses with Jock Wallace engraved on them all, bought it at one of his testimonial night's at the Edmiston, it cost 75 pounds one of my prized possessions Rangers related so I can fully understand why bluenoses would buy this maltLikewise, I’ve been drinking largely single malts for a very long time and have quite a nice collection. I wouldn’t routinely pay that for a 13 year old, but there’s much more to this than its age.
Interesting to know. Although Castore have said many things to set their own narrative so if you choose to believe them then fair enough.According to Castore (at the focus group), 3% of home shirt orders were returned. That included quality issues and people changing size.
I'd say most people were very happy with the kit launch, it's just social media that makes it seem otherwise.
grassOh aye. Will buy for a wee taste. Not sure it'll stack up against my collection but certainly worth a drop.
Maybe as a special treat?£75 a bottle.
So much for asking for it for Xmas!
Mrs dh won't pay that.
silly point once again50p muslin cloth and you can drain the barrels.
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Exactly this. Funny you say that because I too am a big lover of the Clynelish 14. Nothing better than opening up a single cask and savouring it's unique flavour and profile but the Clynelish 14 for the price is an absolute normal drinker. If only we could afford a constant stream of si gle casks. Again you've hit the nail on the head with the reason why and how single cask expressions from good distilleries sell well. We live in a world of exclusivity and that goes hand in hand with whisky at the moment. The only gripe I would have with this release is it is not cask strength. That though is my preference with single casks and I can totally understand their need to lower the ABV.I agree there will be better drams for a better price. I love Clynelish 14 yo which is a distillery bottling for around 44 pounds. The fact is is vatted with 400 casks to get the quantity Diageo need to supply world trade means it is is not limited edition though. This DL Glenrothes is limited edition as it is single cask. 340 bottles in the world. Is it a better whisky than the clynelish , probably not but that is a reason companies can charge the extra mark
Up because of its number of bottles.