Yes. I know. As we have debated countless times, Rangers do not include the 'War Years' titles that were won in our total trophy tally.
I've posted this short video several times on various threads as I love what wee Doddie says at the end. It's only 4 minutes long but what he says almost reduces me to tears (when I think of Sandy who appears throughout). You have to watch the whole video to get a feel for it but listen to the end:
The reason I'm posting it again in relation to these discounted titles is as follows:
Sandy Jardine was the greatest ever ambassador for the club. He loved meeting new and prospective players and explaining to them all what it means to be a Ranger. He would pick them up at the airport and drive them to Ibrox and captivate them with colourful stories from our wonderful history.
He also loved taking guests in to the Trophy Room and could describe every cup, pennant, picture and award. He also reiterated (I know this from what I've read and also I've been really fortunate to have personally experienced) what he states on the video "You know Rangers don't include the titles they won during the war years!"
He usually always prefaced that by saying, "Some people say these don't count!" and it made me feel that he thought they did.
Whilst I used to be of the opinion that Rangers were correct to discount them, I've latterly (exacerbated by our illegal expulsion from the top flight) wondered what the great man Sandy Jardine really felt about these titles.
Perhaps given all that has gone on, we should be included them in our Honours List? I expect a deluge of disagreement to this and will listen and be swayed to solid reasoning should you believe otherwise.
There are a number of things to consider first though.
These years were full Seasons. There was Full participation.
Aberdeen and Hibs quote their honours as official during this period - Rangers don't, why? Not surely because we are Better Than Them. That goes without saying.
However celtc include their WW1 titles. Yet seven full leagues were played during WWII.
There seems no justification for these other clubs including honours and ours not standing, as well as Celtic including theirs for WW1.
As well as winning 7 titles we also won 5 cups, 4 league cups and a war cup so in total we are excluding 12 trophies in total!
I'll balance the above with the Rangers FC article on my next post for the Clubs official stance.
Just feel it might merit a fresh debate or even a poll?
I've posted this short video several times on various threads as I love what wee Doddie says at the end. It's only 4 minutes long but what he says almost reduces me to tears (when I think of Sandy who appears throughout). You have to watch the whole video to get a feel for it but listen to the end:
The reason I'm posting it again in relation to these discounted titles is as follows:
Sandy Jardine was the greatest ever ambassador for the club. He loved meeting new and prospective players and explaining to them all what it means to be a Ranger. He would pick them up at the airport and drive them to Ibrox and captivate them with colourful stories from our wonderful history.
He also loved taking guests in to the Trophy Room and could describe every cup, pennant, picture and award. He also reiterated (I know this from what I've read and also I've been really fortunate to have personally experienced) what he states on the video "You know Rangers don't include the titles they won during the war years!"
He usually always prefaced that by saying, "Some people say these don't count!" and it made me feel that he thought they did.
Whilst I used to be of the opinion that Rangers were correct to discount them, I've latterly (exacerbated by our illegal expulsion from the top flight) wondered what the great man Sandy Jardine really felt about these titles.
Perhaps given all that has gone on, we should be included them in our Honours List? I expect a deluge of disagreement to this and will listen and be swayed to solid reasoning should you believe otherwise.
There are a number of things to consider first though.
These years were full Seasons. There was Full participation.
Aberdeen and Hibs quote their honours as official during this period - Rangers don't, why? Not surely because we are Better Than Them. That goes without saying.
However celtc include their WW1 titles. Yet seven full leagues were played during WWII.
There seems no justification for these other clubs including honours and ours not standing, as well as Celtic including theirs for WW1.
As well as winning 7 titles we also won 5 cups, 4 league cups and a war cup so in total we are excluding 12 trophies in total!
I'll balance the above with the Rangers FC article on my next post for the Clubs official stance.
Just feel it might merit a fresh debate or even a poll?
