Ridiculous pro Celtic article in The Scotsman

We've pyoor goat mair money than theim. Nah, we huv

That article has been lifted straight from a conversation in a Gallowgate slophouse
But unfortunately is accurate-they continue to outspend us every season.
We have absolutely closed the gap with 55 but what happens next is always crucial.

An objective view would be there isn’t much between the sides-we could argue yes no striker for us almost certainly won’t be repeated next season but an awful lot of unknowns at this stage.
Having more money to spend constantly is a big advantage to them.
 
£18m to stand still…… They’re deluded if they think they won’t need to spend much, much more to stay ahead of us or even scrape the odd point in the ECL.
 
But unfortunately is accurate-they continue to outspend us every season.
We have absolutely closed the gap with 55 but what happens next is always crucial.

An objective view would be there isn’t much between the sides-we could argue yes no striker for us almost certainly won’t be repeated next season but an awful lot of unknowns at this stage.
Having more money to spend constantly is a big advantage to them.
Given the way they calculate their transfer fees (including signing on fees, etc), I doubt the gap is that big

The aim of that article is so they can convince themselves they are in a better position than us
 
Embarrassing article about an embarrassing club.
This^


I fully expect separate entity fc to win the CL after reading that article by a fanboy. They have went from winning the league against all odds, having to rebuild a whole squad, to winning the league playing a style of football that makes Pep Guardiola jealous, and are now favourites to win the CL because they are pure dead amazing according to the clown who wrote the article.
 
They need to replace Bitton and Rogic to just stand still
Rogic being one of their more important players too.

They also talk about the player trading model which no one can argue with but I can't see that being fruitful this year.

Also factor in they have the likes of McCarthy and Barkas not contributing but more than likely on first team wages.

But the longer they buy in to myth that everything is amazing all the better for us. We just need to cash in while the iron is hot and have a few successful transfer windows, couple that in with CL qualification and we could be on a very good footing for the next few years minimum. This transfer window and pre-season are massive for us.
 
Has anyone ever written a negative article about those tramps in this country? Incredible how they have the media in their pocket.
 
Spending £18m on 3 of their loan players, surely that can’t be seen a positive? If anything it’s wiping out most of their CL income just for their squad to stand still?

Yep and heading into a Champions League group with largely the same squad that conceded the most goals in the Europa League and got pumped off Bodo Glimpt.

Id be more concerned than positive.
 
How on earth is he getting that Celtic's mere qualifying for the Champions League is wortg double Rangers' run to the Europa League Final? Has it not already been confirmed that Rangers' Europa League Final run is worth slightly more than Champions League group stages?
 
But unfortunately is accurate-they continue to outspend us every season.
We have absolutely closed the gap with 55 but what happens next is always crucial.

An objective view would be there isn’t much between the sides-we could argue yes no striker for us almost certainly won’t be repeated next season but an awful lot of unknowns at this stage.
Having more money to spend constantly is a big advantage to them.
They sold their last proper assets this season, I could be wrong but I don't see them selling anyone for good money now. McGregor is probably their best player and I don't see anyone coming in paying 10/15 for him.
 
By Andrew Smith (say no more)

Celtic: How a record £30m summer transfer spend and highest-ever £100m-plus revenue could be in the pipeline.

It is believed that the moves to sign permanent deals for last season’s successful loanees centre-back Cameron Carter-Vickers and winger Jota are now firmly gathering pace. Assuming these are successfully concluded, they will commit Celtic to an outlay of £16m - Carter-Vickers cost from Tottenham Hotspur placed at £6m plus a further £4m on add-ons, while the purchase clause previously agreed with Benfica for Jota is understood to be £6.5m. Coupled with this week’s activation of the £2m loan-to-buy option that covered Daizen Maeda’s January switch from Yokahama F Marinos, it could be that, merely by the end of this month, Celtic will have essentially invested £18m in preparation for the forthcoming campaign. As a starting point.

The fiscal comforts that allow Celtic to plan in such fashion highlight the wriggle-room provided by two factors: direct entry to the Champions League and the player trading model that has been a cornerstone of the club’s operations for the best part of two decades. An often grumbled-about cornerstone for the board-bashers among the Celtic support, it must be acknowledged. Perhaps they will have cause to reflect on such exasperations when considering how the policy could underpin almost £42m worth of transfer fees paid out since Ange Postecoglou was appointed 11 months ago - the figure that would be reached with the various elements of the permanent deals for Carter-Vickers and Jota.

Even with such considerable forking out on transfer fees, Celtic would not require to dip into their £20m bank reserve for a straightforward reason. Since last April, when Patryk Klimala was moved on to New York Red Bulls in a deal worth £3m, Celtic have raked in £41.5m in transfer fees courtesy of the sale of Odsonne Edouard to Crystal Palace, Brentford’s purchase of Kristoffer Ajer and Ryan Christie’s switch to Bournemouth last summer. These three departures are believed to be worth £14m, £13.5m and £3.5m respectively.

The upshot is that only further squad strengthening in this close season by Postecoglou would come from the revenues projected in the coming 12 months - links to £3m Hammarby left back Mohanad Jeahze and £4.5m Japanese centre-back Ko Itakura not precluding a further £10m being made available to invest in a ball-winner midfielder and right winger/attacker, according to sources close to the club. On this front, an illustration of the extent to which the near-£40m Chamions League lolly that has been guaranteed through snaring the title could be game-changing came with figures published this week by blogger Swiss Ramble.

These covered Rangers’ income from their run to the Europa League final or, to put it another way, just about the best money you can make without jousting among the global elite in club football’s most lucrative cross-boder competition. The Ibrox side earned in the region of £18m, before taking into account matchday revenue. Using the same measure, that isn’t even half of what Celtic will rake in for participation in the Champions League. Moreover, what this does for Celtic’s revenue streams is astronomical. In 2017-18, courtesy of contesting the Champions Leage group stages, the club’s revenue tipped beyond £100m for the first, and only time. By a whole £1m, to settle at £101m.

The figure was underpinned by matchday income in the region of £43m, and a Champions League bounty of £32.5m. With the club announcing a 5% increase in season ticket prices for the season ahead, and a lengthy waiting list, it can be expected that there will be at least a £2m uptick in this figure. And, when it comes to earnings from the Champions League, as already stated, these are set to be around £7m more than banked by the Scottish champions four years ago. Another revenue stream sure to be bolstered takes the form of the three-game packages for the club’s first Champions League games proper in four years. It is a safe bet these will sell out. It is an equally safe bet the cost of them will be greater than was the case in 2018. All of which suggests Celtic’s revenue can push towards the £110m mark. That would be new ground for a Scottish club.

The fiscal responsibility central to Celtic’s governance model, meanwhile, ensures that not all the number-crunching associated with the club’s operations is inflationary. In 2018-19, the club’s wage bill was £53m. The most recent accounts published put that total at £50m. The intention is to ship out a raft of players who are surplus to requirements in the form of Vasilis Barkas, Albian Ajeti, Boli Bolingoli and Ismaila Soro. If they are moved on, even in just loan deals, this could amount to budgetary savings in the region of £3m. Granted, this may be largely offset by the salary demands required to be met to seal permanent deals for Carter-Vickers and Jota. However, even allowing for that, Celtic’s wages to turnover ratio would remain comfortably within the 60% bracket considered crucial to football clubs operating in self-sustaining fashion.

Not that Celtic have ever had real problems on that score. The accounts for last season look like they will see the club post an £18m profit - up from the £5.9m loss they registered when the previous season was halted two months early because of the Covid-19 lockdown. With the earnings of last season, Celtic will have been in the black for eight of the past 10 seasons. The most recent campaign is the ninth of these 10 seasons when profitability hasn’t precluded pre-eminence in top flight terms. Celtic, a mere year on from their spectacular fall from grace, certainly appear in the pink once again.
Celtic have raked in £41.5m in transfer fees courtesy of the sale of Odsonne Edouard to Crystal Palace, Brentford’s purchase of Kristoffer Ajer and Ryan Christie’s switch to Bournemouth last summer. These three departures are believed to be worth £14m, £13.5m and £3.5m respectively.

14+13.5+3.5 = 31??
 
All that money and Rangers got to the Europa League final with the whole team worth the same as Ajer. Makes %^*& all sense if you get pumped out off 3 Euro competitions in one season. Absolute bellends. Big season next season for them because the benchmark is Europe.
 
Blimey, £10m for Carter Vickers?! Levy is a master of fleecing people isn't he?

Good defender but if that's the market for centre halves, it will be tough to replace Goldson on the cheap.
 
Celtic have raked in £41.5m in transfer fees courtesy of the sale of Odsonne Edouard to Crystal Palace, Brentford’s purchase of Kristoffer Ajer and Ryan Christie’s switch to Bournemouth last summer. These three departures are believed to be worth £14m, £13.5m and £3.5m respectively.

14+13.5+3.5 = 31??
Your math is indeed correct.
 
Blimey, £10m for Carter Vickers?! Levy is a master of fleecing people isn't he?

Good defender but if that's the market for centre halves, it will be tough to replace Goldson on the cheap.
It is going to be tough to replace him on the cheap regardless what market Celtic are shopping in.

Never injured, mostly consistent, a leader and his passing won us games. There's not many CBs that are out there that can replace that never mind for cheap
 
Dearest Andrew

In the "quadruple treble" years ( I am not in denial I can say it) here is the record of your fiscal heroes

2016/17 CL qualifying W3 D1 L2 ( including defeat to the mighty Red Imps)
CL group W0 D3 L3 ( including 7 goals shipped in one game to Barca)

2017/18 CL qualifying W4 D1 L1
CL group W1 L5 ( including 12 goals shipped in two games to PSG)

2018/19 CL qualifying W3 D2 L1 DID NOT QUALIFY
Europa group W3 L3 Round 32 beaten home and away

2019/20 CL qualifying W4 D1 L1 DID NOT QUALIFY
Europa group W4 D1 L1 Round 32 knocked out

Here is some more

20/21 knocked out second round CL qualifying
Europa group did not qualify

21/22 knocked out second round CL qualifying
Europa group did not qualify
Conference League knockout round play off lost home and away to Bodo/Glimt

Compare and contrast Rangers

19/20 Europa League reached round last 16

20/21 Europa League reached round last 16

21/22 Europa league finalists

UEFA Club Co-efficient placings at end of season 2021/22

Rangers 33

Celtic 51

But it's all about fiscal prudence, right?

Ever yours

laud ( and proud)55
 
No mention of course of handing Forrest a new 3 year deal who hasnt played 5 games on the trot for them in about 2 years or the 3 years left on McCarthy's deal still to run.......

15m plus on CCV and Jota is fine by me. CCV was nearly phoning Tommy Ash recovery at the end of ET at Hampden.......
 
Celtic have raked in £41.5m in transfer fees courtesy of the sale of Odsonne Edouard to Crystal Palace, Brentford’s purchase of Kristoffer Ajer and Ryan Christie’s switch to Bournemouth last summer. These three departures are believed to be worth £14m, £13.5m and £3.5m respectively.

14+13.5+3.5 = 31??
Most transfer fees are paid in instalments I'm guessing so that is another angle omitted.
 
“The Ibrox side earned in the region of £18m, before taking into account matchday revenue. Using the same measure, that isn’t even half of what Celtic will rake in for participation in the Champions League.”

We rule their tiny little minds. What they have yet to figure out is that we had a lot more matches than they will get for finishing bottom of the champions league.
 
Perhaps they will have cause to reflect on such exasperations when considering how the policy could underpin almost £42m worth of transfer fees paid out since Ange Postecoglou was appointed 11 months ago - the figure that would be reached with the various elements of the permanent deals for Carter-Vickers and Jota.
Almost £42m spent on the "rebuild" and at the same time making out Ange to be the 2nd coming of Sir Alex Ferguson
 
Id be more shocked if a paper printed a negative story of them.

Best ignored as they're propaganda machine will be in full flow the next few months whilst the courts sort out their child abusing shame.

To their credit, the Scottish daily express appear to be the only tabloid willing to report on this.
 
£3.5 million for Christie? Ryan Christie who apparently had 6 months left on his contract? Aye I'm sure that happened.
 
Even if you ignore the bad maths and the fortune they're committing to buy players they already have, where is the future revenue he talks about generating through their "player trading model" coming from?

Am I missing someone they could actually sell on for a decent fee? It feels like they've emptied that particular cupboard.

I don't see anyone in their squad who could be viewed as having the sort of potential big leagues pay for. I guess Furuhashi would be their most sellable asset but he's a 24 year old with bad hamstrings who's biggest attributes are work rate and running off the ball. Abada maybe? He's young enough to have the potential to generate a sale and his stats seem good but I can't think of any time I've actually noticed him do anything in a big game.
 
Whilst the article is like something from the mentally challenged view, it cannot be understated how much our dreadful post-winter break form and dodgy referees have handed them this season in terms of a financial advantage.
 
By Andrew Smith (say no more)

Celtic: How a record £30m summer transfer spend and highest-ever £100m-plus revenue could be in the pipeline.

It is believed that the moves to sign permanent deals for last season’s successful loanees centre-back Cameron Carter-Vickers and winger Jota are now firmly gathering pace. Assuming these are successfully concluded, they will commit Celtic to an outlay of £16m - Carter-Vickers cost from Tottenham Hotspur placed at £6m plus a further £4m on add-ons, while the purchase clause previously agreed with Benfica for Jota is understood to be £6.5m. Coupled with this week’s activation of the £2m loan-to-buy option that covered Daizen Maeda’s January switch from Yokahama F Marinos, it could be that, merely by the end of this month, Celtic will have essentially invested £18m in preparation for the forthcoming campaign. As a starting point.

The fiscal comforts that allow Celtic to plan in such fashion highlight the wriggle-room provided by two factors: direct entry to the Champions League and the player trading model that has been a cornerstone of the club’s operations for the best part of two decades. An often grumbled-about cornerstone for the board-bashers among the Celtic support, it must be acknowledged. Perhaps they will have cause to reflect on such exasperations when considering how the policy could underpin almost £42m worth of transfer fees paid out since Ange Postecoglou was appointed 11 months ago - the figure that would be reached with the various elements of the permanent deals for Carter-Vickers and Jota.

Even with such considerable forking out on transfer fees, Celtic would not require to dip into their £20m bank reserve for a straightforward reason. Since last April, when Patryk Klimala was moved on to New York Red Bulls in a deal worth £3m, Celtic have raked in £41.5m in transfer fees courtesy of the sale of Odsonne Edouard to Crystal Palace, Brentford’s purchase of Kristoffer Ajer and Ryan Christie’s switch to Bournemouth last summer. These three departures are believed to be worth £14m, £13.5m and £3.5m respectively.

The upshot is that only further squad strengthening in this close season by Postecoglou would come from the revenues projected in the coming 12 months - links to £3m Hammarby left back Mohanad Jeahze and £4.5m Japanese centre-back Ko Itakura not precluding a further £10m being made available to invest in a ball-winner midfielder and right winger/attacker, according to sources close to the club. On this front, an illustration of the extent to which the near-£40m Chamions League lolly that has been guaranteed through snaring the title could be game-changing came with figures published this week by blogger Swiss Ramble.

These covered Rangers’ income from their run to the Europa League final or, to put it another way, just about the best money you can make without jousting among the global elite in club football’s most lucrative cross-boder competition. The Ibrox side earned in the region of £18m, before taking into account matchday revenue. Using the same measure, that isn’t even half of what Celtic will rake in for participation in the Champions League. Moreover, what this does for Celtic’s revenue streams is astronomical. In 2017-18, courtesy of contesting the Champions Leage group stages, the club’s revenue tipped beyond £100m for the first, and only time. By a whole £1m, to settle at £101m.

The figure was underpinned by matchday income in the region of £43m, and a Champions League bounty of £32.5m. With the club announcing a 5% increase in season ticket prices for the season ahead, and a lengthy waiting list, it can be expected that there will be at least a £2m uptick in this figure. And, when it comes to earnings from the Champions League, as already stated, these are set to be around £7m more than banked by the Scottish champions four years ago. Another revenue stream sure to be bolstered takes the form of the three-game packages for the club’s first Champions League games proper in four years. It is a safe bet these will sell out. It is an equally safe bet the cost of them will be greater than was the case in 2018. All of which suggests Celtic’s revenue can push towards the £110m mark. That would be new ground for a Scottish club.

The fiscal responsibility central to Celtic’s governance model, meanwhile, ensures that not all the number-crunching associated with the club’s operations is inflationary. In 2018-19, the club’s wage bill was £53m. The most recent accounts published put that total at £50m. The intention is to ship out a raft of players who are surplus to requirements in the form of Vasilis Barkas, Albian Ajeti, Boli Bolingoli and Ismaila Soro. If they are moved on, even in just loan deals, this could amount to budgetary savings in the region of £3m. Granted, this may be largely offset by the salary demands required to be met to seal permanent deals for Carter-Vickers and Jota. However, even allowing for that, Celtic’s wages to turnover ratio would remain comfortably within the 60% bracket considered crucial to football clubs operating in self-sustaining fashion.

Not that Celtic have ever had real problems on that score. The accounts for last season look like they will see the club post an £18m profit - up from the £5.9m loss they registered when the previous season was halted two months early because of the Covid-19 lockdown. With the earnings of last season, Celtic will have been in the black for eight of the past 10 seasons. The most recent campaign is the ninth of these 10 seasons when profitability hasn’t precluded pre-eminence in top flight terms. Celtic, a mere year on from their spectacular fall from grace, certainly appear in the pink once again.
All pipe-dreams and fairy tales from him! If only I had picked the correct numbers for the last EuroMillions I would have won over £100m but that didn't happen and neither will Celtic doing anything worthwhile in the CL!

They are found out in Europe because they are not allowed to get away with their wild tackles and challenges and wonder why they have players being booked and sent off. They next season will be comedy gold next season.
 
By Andrew Smith (say no more)

Celtic: How a record £30m summer transfer spend and highest-ever £100m-plus revenue could be in the pipeline.

It is believed that the moves to sign permanent deals for last season’s successful loanees centre-back Cameron Carter-Vickers and winger Jota are now firmly gathering pace. Assuming these are successfully concluded, they will commit Celtic to an outlay of £16m - Carter-Vickers cost from Tottenham Hotspur placed at £6m plus a further £4m on add-ons, while the purchase clause previously agreed with Benfica for Jota is understood to be £6.5m. Coupled with this week’s activation of the £2m loan-to-buy option that covered Daizen Maeda’s January switch from Yokahama F Marinos, it could be that, merely by the end of this month, Celtic will have essentially invested £18m in preparation for the forthcoming campaign. As a starting point.

The fiscal comforts that allow Celtic to plan in such fashion highlight the wriggle-room provided by two factors: direct entry to the Champions League and the player trading model that has been a cornerstone of the club’s operations for the best part of two decades. An often grumbled-about cornerstone for the board-bashers among the Celtic support, it must be acknowledged. Perhaps they will have cause to reflect on such exasperations when considering how the policy could underpin almost £42m worth of transfer fees paid out since Ange Postecoglou was appointed 11 months ago - the figure that would be reached with the various elements of the permanent deals for Carter-Vickers and Jota.

Even with such considerable forking out on transfer fees, Celtic would not require to dip into their £20m bank reserve for a straightforward reason. Since last April, when Patryk Klimala was moved on to New York Red Bulls in a deal worth £3m, Celtic have raked in £41.5m in transfer fees courtesy of the sale of Odsonne Edouard to Crystal Palace, Brentford’s purchase of Kristoffer Ajer and Ryan Christie’s switch to Bournemouth last summer. These three departures are believed to be worth £14m, £13.5m and £3.5m respectively.

The upshot is that only further squad strengthening in this close season by Postecoglou would come from the revenues projected in the coming 12 months - links to £3m Hammarby left back Mohanad Jeahze and £4.5m Japanese centre-back Ko Itakura not precluding a further £10m being made available to invest in a ball-winner midfielder and right winger/attacker, according to sources close to the club. On this front, an illustration of the extent to which the near-£40m Chamions League lolly that has been guaranteed through snaring the title could be game-changing came with figures published this week by blogger Swiss Ramble.

These covered Rangers’ income from their run to the Europa League final or, to put it another way, just about the best money you can make without jousting among the global elite in club football’s most lucrative cross-boder competition. The Ibrox side earned in the region of £18m, before taking into account matchday revenue. Using the same measure, that isn’t even half of what Celtic will rake in for participation in the Champions League. Moreover, what this does for Celtic’s revenue streams is astronomical. In 2017-18, courtesy of contesting the Champions Leage group stages, the club’s revenue tipped beyond £100m for the first, and only time. By a whole £1m, to settle at £101m.

The figure was underpinned by matchday income in the region of £43m, and a Champions League bounty of £32.5m. With the club announcing a 5% increase in season ticket prices for the season ahead, and a lengthy waiting list, it can be expected that there will be at least a £2m uptick in this figure. And, when it comes to earnings from the Champions League, as already stated, these are set to be around £7m more than banked by the Scottish champions four years ago. Another revenue stream sure to be bolstered takes the form of the three-game packages for the club’s first Champions League games proper in four years. It is a safe bet these will sell out. It is an equally safe bet the cost of them will be greater than was the case in 2018. All of which suggests Celtic’s revenue can push towards the £110m mark. That would be new ground for a Scottish club.

The fiscal responsibility central to Celtic’s governance model, meanwhile, ensures that not all the number-crunching associated with the club’s operations is inflationary. In 2018-19, the club’s wage bill was £53m. The most recent accounts published put that total at £50m. The intention is to ship out a raft of players who are surplus to requirements in the form of Vasilis Barkas, Albian Ajeti, Boli Bolingoli and Ismaila Soro. If they are moved on, even in just loan deals, this could amount to budgetary savings in the region of £3m. Granted, this may be largely offset by the salary demands required to be met to seal permanent deals for Carter-Vickers and Jota. However, even allowing for that, Celtic’s wages to turnover ratio would remain comfortably within the 60% bracket considered crucial to football clubs operating in self-sustaining fashion.

Not that Celtic have ever had real problems on that score. The accounts for last season look like they will see the club post an £18m profit - up from the £5.9m loss they registered when the previous season was halted two months early because of the Covid-19 lockdown. With the earnings of last season, Celtic will have been in the black for eight of the past 10 seasons. The most recent campaign is the ninth of these 10 seasons when profitability hasn’t precluded pre-eminence in top flight terms. Celtic, a mere year on from their spectacular fall from grace, certainly appear in the pink once again.
No mention of the outlay they are making in terms of compensation to victims of 'separate entity' I notice..........surprise surprise eh ?!
 
They sold their last proper assets this season, I could be wrong but I don't see them selling anyone for good money now. McGregor is probably their best player and I don't see anyone coming in paying 10/15 for him.
They can't sell him, because without him they're like a Polo mint.

If they did, it would have to be a stupid offer and then they'd have to replace him. IMO he's their only major sellable asset.
 
Id be more shocked if a paper printed a negative story of them.

Best ignored as they're propaganda machine will be in full flow the next few months whilst the courts sort out their child abusing shame.
Was thinking the same that's why there not going into there £30million bank reserved as they need that to pay out to the victims of the pedo's that preyed on youngsters.
 
That 41.5m - Doesn’t add up with the sales he’s quoted.
Was about to post the same thing G. Adds up to £34m, not £41.5.

And that is taking into account that he states they received £3.5m for Ryan Christie, who was in the last 6 months of his contract. Not even the most rhabid would swallow that guff.

He then talks about savings to be made form the sale of Soro, Bolingoli, Ajeti, and Barkas. They would be lucky to see even half of that investment returned, before even mentioning wages paid out to them already, so they will be taking a massive hit. And they ain’t getting £7m back for Julien either, assuming they were being truthful when disclosing what they paid. And they let an asset worth £4m (apparently) in Rogic leave on a free.

He also forgets to mention that this year they have no big asset to sell as in previous years. Our purchases this year will be funded by player sales, whereas theirs will be funded by future European income. Which we may also receive substantial income for.

Whenever you see a report saying “deal worth” in relation to Celtic purchases, I would not be surprised if add ons and wages were included so as to appease the hordes.

Typical Timmy spin, and an embarrassment to journalism.
 
All I read was £18million for them to stand still. Genuinely not phased by them and Gio has their number now, hope they keep the crux of what they had this season as we will only improve.
 
This is clearly designed to start setting the narrative for the sellik support and the upcoming season.

The yahoos will be expecting big signings but that isn't really the sellik way and their daft supporters can't accept that.

The signing fees for Jota and Vickers will be grossly exaggerated (Jota's decent but Vickers?) as will the fee for any new players they bring in but Jota and Vickers are their big signings.

Their support won't accept that.
 
The loanees will be the big signings. They'll expect bigger but they are that thick to think proven consistent quality will be out of reach and wouldn't play in scotland.

Tits
 
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