Some people are permanently stuck in 1999.
Aye in football manager hahaRudy? The German international?
Delaney? The one that Dortmund paid £20m for last year.
Aye, both achievable.
Totally agree. So much of his work goes unnoticed. Thankfully our gaffer knows exactly what Jack offers the team. That’s good enough for me.No position should be safe but jack gets nowhere near the credit he deserves
If he’s managing a minimum seven out of ten, he should be a first pick.Was chatting about this last night to my uncle. We (Rangers fans) talk a lot about having two or three first team players coming in to really turn this squad into a title winning squad, there's really a universal opinion - that I agree with - that says we need these two or three players to be first picks so who would they dislodge?
I see these players as LB, CM and CAM. The first explains itself, takes the LB role which nobody has nailed down. The CAM role would be Ryan Kent and if we don't get him then someone of that ilk creatively. (Obv a fourth is a striker if we lose Alfie)
The CM role though has me thinking who makes way? To really become that squad that not only challenges for the league but takes it down needs a team that consistently hits 8-9/10 across the board say 70% of the time. Although Jack is capable of that level of performance, I'm not sure if he's capable of that level of consistency.
Davis and Kamara are, I can see that but I'm not sure if Jack is.
He can be a motm, he can be a 8/10 9/10 or 10/10 but looking back he's probably a 7/10 more consistently, with the occasional burst into the top range.
Im starting to think he's the one that could be at risk. Would we be a better team with a midfield three of Davis, Kamara and say a Lucas Leiva / Sebastian Rudy / Steven Zuber / Thomas Delenay / Jordan Veretout (all of which I see as achievable signings) and would their quality be able to hit that 8-9-10/10 consistently level that Jack doesn't.
Listen I love the guy, he's been brilliant for us and maybe I'm wrong but I think Davis and Kamara have the ability to be higher performers consistently - and this isn't to say Jack can't be a high performer, I just doubt the ability of that level consistently.
Been a great signing up til now. But what about from now?
Nonsense.Ryan Jack is the reason we played the way that we did on Sunday.
Really?I expect that Jordan Rossiter will begin to replace Jack in some of our games next season, whether it be cup games or whatever, and will graduate into the role on the following seasons.
No mention of form, Jack is playing and we're winning. If you have the shirt in a winning team and are contributing like Jack is then you keep the shirt. You are also basing your opinion on the individual as opposed to the collective. It's a team game after all !In what way?
He is brilliant when things are going well, my worry is if we go through a bad patch he will just hide.
I think as a squad player though he is exactly what you need to win titles.
Even the likes of Zuber or Veretout are in the realms of fantasy
So has Tavernier?Zero trophies in the past couple of years. Jack has been part of that.
Clean slate in pre-season. Jack should in no way be guaranteed a start next season.
I haven't heard of either of them but one look at their current clubs instantly puts them out of our reach.
Our market is the 0-2m range with room for 1 £3m+ plus signing dependent on Morelos leaving imo.
Was chatting about this last night to my uncle. We (Rangers fans) talk a lot about having two or three first team players coming in to really turn this squad into a title winning squad, there's really a universal opinion - that I agree with - that says we need these two or three players to be first picks so who would they dislodge?
I see these players as LB, CM and CAM. The first explains itself, takes the LB role which nobody has nailed down. The CAM role would be Ryan Kent and if we don't get him then someone of that ilk creatively. (Obv a fourth is a striker if we lose Alfie)
The CM role though has me thinking who makes way? To really become that squad that not only challenges for the league but takes it down needs a team that consistently hits 8-9/10 across the board say 70% of the time. Although Jack is capable of that level of performance, I'm not sure if he's capable of that level of consistency.
Davis and Kamara are, I can see that but I'm not sure if Jack is.
He can be a motm, he can be a 8/10 9/10 or 10/10 but looking back he's probably a 7/10 more consistently, with the occasional burst into the top range.
Im starting to think he's the one that could be at risk. Would we be a better team with a midfield three of Davis, Kamara and say a Lucas Leiva / Sebastian Rudy / Steven Zuber / Thomas Delenay / Jordan Veretout (all of which I see as achievable signings) and would their quality be able to hit that 8-9-10/10 consistently level that Jack doesn't.
Listen I love the guy, he's been brilliant for us and maybe I'm wrong but I think Davis and Kamara have the ability to be higher performers consistently - and this isn't to say Jack can't be a high performer, I just doubt the ability of that level consistently.
Been a great signing up til now. But what about from now?
have you informed SG?Was chatting about this last night to my uncle. We (Rangers fans) talk a lot about having two or three first team players coming in to really turn this squad into a title winning squad, there's really a universal opinion - that I agree with - that says we need these two or three players to be first picks so who would they dislodge?
I see these players as LB, CM and CAM. The first explains itself, takes the LB role which nobody has nailed down. The CAM role would be Ryan Kent and if we don't get him then someone of that ilk creatively. (Obv a fourth is a striker if we lose Alfie)
The CM role though has me thinking who makes way? To really become that squad that not only challenges for the league but takes it down needs a team that consistently hits 8-9/10 across the board say 70% of the time. Although Jack is capable of that level of performance, I'm not sure if he's capable of that level of consistency.
Davis and Kamara are, I can see that but I'm not sure if Jack is.
He can be a motm, he can be a 8/10 9/10 or 10/10 but looking back he's probably a 7/10 more consistently, with the occasional burst into the top range.
Im starting to think he's the one that could be at risk. Would we be a better team with a midfield three of Davis, Kamara and say a Lucas Leiva / Sebastian Rudy / Steven Zuber / Thomas Delenay / Jordan Veretout (all of which I see as achievable signings) and would their quality be able to hit that 8-9-10/10 consistently level that Jack doesn't.
Listen I love the guy, he's been brilliant for us and maybe I'm wrong but I think Davis and Kamara have the ability to be higher performers consistently - and this isn't to say Jack can't be a high performer, I just doubt the ability of that level consistently.
Been a great signing up til now. But what about from now?
The same Jordan Veretout that’s about to sign for Napoli for €27m.Was chatting about this last night to my uncle. We (Rangers fans) talk a lot about having two or three first team players coming in to really turn this squad into a title winning squad, there's really a universal opinion - that I agree with - that says we need these two or three players to be first picks so who would they dislodge?
I see these players as LB, CM and CAM. The first explains itself, takes the LB role which nobody has nailed down. The CAM role would be Ryan Kent and if we don't get him then someone of that ilk creatively. (Obv a fourth is a striker if we lose Alfie)
The CM role though has me thinking who makes way? To really become that squad that not only challenges for the league but takes it down needs a team that consistently hits 8-9/10 across the board say 70% of the time. Although Jack is capable of that level of performance, I'm not sure if he's capable of that level of consistency.
Davis and Kamara are, I can see that but I'm not sure if Jack is.
He can be a motm, he can be a 8/10 9/10 or 10/10 but looking back he's probably a 7/10 more consistently, with the occasional burst into the top range.
Im starting to think he's the one that could be at risk. Would we be a better team with a midfield three of Davis, Kamara and say a Lucas Leiva / Sebastian Rudy / Steven Zuber / Thomas Delenay / Jordan Veretout (all of which I see as achievable signings) and would their quality be able to hit that 8-9-10/10 consistently level that Jack doesn't.
Listen I love the guy, he's been brilliant for us and maybe I'm wrong but I think Davis and Kamara have the ability to be higher performers consistently - and this isn't to say Jack can't be a high performer, I just doubt the ability of that level consistently.
Been a great signing up til now. But what about from now?
Don’t remember hiding when we were truly rotten under Pedro.
In fact, pre injury, he was one of the better performers.
I would replace every single player in every position if someone better came along. Its all about stepping up every season and improving all over the pitch.
What do people want from a defensive/screening midfielder?
He covers every blade. Sniffs our dangers. Recycled possession. Offers some dig in the tackle.
I’m a bit perplexed as to this wave of negativity surrounding Jack’s role.
I still think a guy with Ferguson/Adam's passing range is still required (not saying sign Charlie Adam before anyone starts) and a no 10 for the midfield. As great as the trio has done, I don't believe we need Jack against smaller teams and much like McCrorie, he should be brought in depending on who we are playing. We need to be able to have creative and combative combinations of the trio and everything in-between to win the league next season.
'Week to week, getting full training in, getti.ng his body conditioned, that's his first challenge. Then I've no doubts he will show everybody what he's capable of.
'I think he can do a bit of everything very well. He's very fit, in terms of endurance, so he hits big numbers and covers a lot of grass. He's nearly as good at tackling as me!
'He can pass the ball short and long, he's honest, I trust him. He's up for it; he's my style of player who'll empty it for you.
'So, he's just got to be patient and let it happen and it will come. There's a lot of football to be played from now until the end of the season. He'll get a lot more appearances if he's looked after himself.
Or they want the squad improved as we have won fk all with the current squad.I'm starting to think that people who don't rate Jack as a player (or notice what he brings to our side) either don't know much about football or don't like him because he only signed from Aberdeen
Was chatting about this last night to my uncle. We (Rangers fans) talk a lot about having two or three first team players coming in to really turn this squad into a title winning squad, there's really a universal opinion - that I agree with - that says we need these two or three players to be first picks so who would they dislodge?
I see these players as LB, CM and CAM. The first explains itself, takes the LB role which nobody has nailed down. The CAM role would be Ryan Kent and if we don't get him then someone of that ilk creatively. (Obv a fourth is a striker if we lose Alfie)
The CM role though has me thinking who makes way? To really become that squad that not only challenges for the league but takes it down needs a team that consistently hits 8-9/10 across the board say 70% of the time. Although Jack is capable of that level of performance, I'm not sure if he's capable of that level of consistency.
Davis and Kamara are, I can see that but I'm not sure if Jack is.
He can be a motm, he can be a 8/10 9/10 or 10/10 but looking back he's probably a 7/10 more consistently, with the occasional burst into the top range.
Im starting to think he's the one that could be at risk. Would we be a better team with a midfield three of Davis, Kamara and say a Lucas Leiva / Sebastian Rudy / Steven Zuber / Thomas Delenay / Jordan Veretout (all of which I see as achievable signings) and would their quality be able to hit that 8-9-10/10 consistently level that Jack doesn't.
Listen I love the guy, he's been brilliant for us and maybe I'm wrong but I think Davis and Kamara have the ability to be higher performers consistently - and this isn't to say Jack can't be a high performer, I just doubt the ability of that level consistently.
Been a great signing up til now. But what about from now?
And that is Ryan Jack's fault? Majority of the people you see on here saying the want jack replace are also saying rossiter will be a 1st team pickOr they want the squad improved as we have won fk all with the current squad.
If we are to strengthen then it should be the midfield and Davis and Kamara are both better footballers than Jack.And that is Ryan Jack's fault? Majority of the people you see on here saying the want jack replace are also saying rossiter will be a 1st team pick
Jack is the one who allows them to play the way they do with the protection he offers. If we can get an upgrade on him that's great but it's not the first place we should be looking considering we will have 2 cbs once the season finishes and 1 gecent striker if morelos leaves.If we are to strengthen then it should be the midfield and Davis and Kamara are both better footballers than Jack.
All I can say in response to this is go watch the pre season interviews againAssume you spoke to Gerrard regarding this, as you know his opinions on Rossiter?
What you have said quite frankly is not true.
The true series of events were -
Rossiter was flying pre season and receiving praise from SG.
Rossiter receives an unrelated injury.
By the time he was then fit again we were underachieving in the league and couldn't afford him the time to get back upto speed, so allowed him out on loan to do so.
It's probably just because he's not as classy as Kamara and Davis and there's a nagging suspicion we still need a #10.
Zero trophies in the past couple of years. Jack has been part of that.
Clean slate in pre-season. Jack should in no way be guaranteed a start next season.