I’ve started standing further along BF and you can see that the vast majority stand for big games
It very much is, I'm row A in BF5 and stand at every game, as do pretty much everyone in my section.
Not saying it shouldn't be done I'm saying it's not top of the priority list, do we have a finite budget I'm not aware of?
I think we're behind the curve on a number of things, due to where we've as a club the past decade or so.
The board for some reason won't even entertain that.
Pretty much every club in the world has moved fans to accommodate their groups.
The tickets wouldn’t be any cheaper.
I think the restriction argument is futile considering fans in SW4/5 and main stand sections towards end of the stand currently have their view restricted
I take it that your use of ‘100%’ means that there is a definite desire for it among a section of our support and not that 100% of our support want it.
The problem we have is our club is founded by pioneers. We were the first Scottish club to do so many things , we still break records now thanks to the fans. We were always about being a step ahead.
It's not going to make any more money though, no increase on capacity so its a spend with no return in the eyes of the club.
I'm not against the idea of safe standing at all but seeing the repeated posts like this just had to comment that its all a bit self-fulfilling. Obviously if a few folk stand up then everybody else around them has to stand up as well as they don't get to see the game otherwise. Indeed we had a poster on the seat relocation thread wanting moved precisely because his age/illness made it impossible to stand for 90 minutes and he was, basically, seeing very little of the game as a result. I'm not sure we should be reading that as everyone in BF5 (in your example) wanting to stand up.
Upgrading concourses falls under that bracket yet people want the club to do that?
Big deal.All teams in both leagues allowed safe standing areas
Premier League clubs to get standing areas for first time in 30 years
PREMIER League clubs will get the go-ahead to open safe standing areas in their grounds from the start of the new season. Ministers are expected to announce the success of a trial at five stadiums …www.thesun.co.uk
Yet our own board refuses this while the other lot have done this for a while now
Is that not if they wanted to do a 2:1 ratio for each place with 2 levels to each row like they do in Germany?
That's a fair point but I'm certain that's the club view on safe standing.
The club have the right to move absolutely anyone they want, it’s in the terms and conditions you agree to each year
That’s a cop out though as the easy solution would be to pass on the cost to fans
I've no idea mate. I've had a trawl around to see if I can find where I read it. It wasn't just a punter's opinion on here though, it was something more 'official' than that. Probably 4 maybe 5 years ago? My recollection is it may have been from Rangers because there was a suggestion on here that they were being a bit 'misleading' with the info.
Good, get the moaning auld cunts moved.
Yup.
That goes without saying.
£80-£100 for a single game?
I’m guessing he means instillation costs but I’m unsure if it’s accurate
No that’s roughly the cost to implement it.
Think UB have offered a few times.
I refuse to believe it’s been shelved because a few fans sung a naughty song about Steve Clark 5 years ago.
I had a season ticket in CF5, CF1 and CR1 back in the day, I've seen and heard the aggression towards those who want to stand, I've had it directed at me. I'm not speaking for everyone in BF or even my section but the attitude I've experienced is different. I'd say those who may be unhappy are in the minority and don't feel like they can speak up and tell people to sit. If they, like the poster you reference want to move elsewhere then its progress in my book.
It’s an easy excuse to use rather than admit it’s because they don’t want to upset fans by relocating them.
It’s not overly safe standing behind the seats, it’s roughly mid-shin for anyone 6ft+
Yip big deal who cares right?
Its not just about the UB, if you get more like minded fans congregated in one stand like at aways then the atmosphere is going to improve, a few thousand voices are louder than a few hundred.
This board have been saying for the last seven years that they’re going to improve the disabled facilities in the stadium.
Disabled facilities are appalling and do not comply with UEFA Regulations which might, one day, bite us on the arse if they choose to enforce them. I'm sure long-time campaigner @forlanssister could confirm that. Addressing that is, without a doubt, a priority ahead of safe standing - as much as that will irritate some. Be great if we could address both but, as is becoming apparent, the finances simply are not there to do so at this moment in time.
The difference is, safe standing would be fan-funded and the club wouldn’t need to pay a penny towards it.
Giving our support what it wants isn't top of of your priority list.
Not me,I have a seat in the club deck rear,never sat on my arse regularly along with fellow fans during big games last season.
Single seat cost for a retrofit to safe standing. Would a fan pay an extra £100 on a season ticket for the first year to cover costs. I'd expect a few thousand would eagerly pay.
Thats the issue though! Fans are standing at seats that aren't designed for it. How many times have you went arse over tits during a game. SAFE standing is a must.
We are going to have to address the disabled facilities at some point - that's a UEFA requirement I'm sure, whereas Safe Standing isn't. I'm not against SS, simply saying its 'down the list' (in fact, for the Board it might not even be on the list
). Disabled facilities, toilets, replacing old/damaged seats, other 'essential' maintenance etc etc.All of our support want safe standing? Or just some?
