Sam Lammers

RLoyal said:
Well for a start his header v Hoffenheim showed he has that in his locker. Who in their right mind writes off players after a few weeks in a dysfunctional set up?
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I don’t know, I’ve not written him off. I just know I don’t give a shit what players do in friendlies because they’re meaningless and nothing but a fitness builder. Matondo looked like Vinicius Jr in a friendly vs West Ham, even Sebo looked a decent player in one. It’s desperate to include non official goals as a defence of a player who has a truly pitiful 6 goals for his last 5 clubs.
 
BenVorlich said:
He has balance, his shielding of the ball and turns on a sixpence are all good. He has plenty of skill. I for one am prepared to give him a lot more time. I see the skill the lad has. I don't see it in some of the others we've signed. Will he turn out to be a player for us in the SPL, time will tell.
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andy5836 said:
Danilo will be a good signing I feel and Butland is our best signing. Cifuentes started with a bit of promise and looked decent but no idea what's happened to him. The rest of them don't look like they will make the grade at us which isn't good enough.

If we're signing 9 players we need at least 6/9 to be a success not 3/9 and have millions wasted. That's on Beale.
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I don’t see it in Cifu either !
 
Arkyblue said:
Let’s be honest he’s absolute pish. How Beale let Hagi go,on loan for this dud baffles me
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Lammers flits in and out of games, basically looking lost as what he is supposed to be doing. Whether that’s the Managers poor tactics / set up or he is just not fancying it here it’s a bit soon to tell.

Hagi got binned because he asked Beale for more game time.
 
artificialintoleranz said:
Are we sure he really cost that? Looking at his history it is really hard to believe a team would ask that kind of money.

Which does make it all the harder to believe someone would pay it.
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If he cost £350k....it was too much as
we had better players who played this #10 position. We sent them on loan for this 9 to 10 experiment. That's unforgivable for me.
 
Dashboard Jesus said:
Lammers isn't a striker, it's ludicrous to even suggest it.
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Diego Maradona said:
Footballs not for you
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Sam Lammers - Detailed stats

These are the detailed performance data of FC Twente Enschede player Sam Lammers. The website contains a statistic about the performance data of the player.
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Hes played 222 career games as a striker scoring 76 goals and played 10 out of position, mostly with us. Ill trust your eye test though.
 
The attack should be built around Danilo or Roofe up front with Cantwell or Lawrence at 10.

Lammers just doesn't fit in and Dessers looks like a guy you'd throw on if you were in desperate need of a goal and were just going route one.
 
Dashboard Jesus said:
He may well have but he has nothing in his game to suggest he is a striker.
Easily knocked off the ball, misses big chances. Beale signed him to play as a 10.
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Except every manager he’s played under utilising him up top. He’s never a 10, he barely links midfield to attack, his movement is poor, his control is a hit or miss, he’s not exactly great at playing and getting himself out of tight spaces. He doesn’t break the lines, wasteful in possession, his off the ball movement and ability to drop deep is lacking, rarely gets beyond the striker. Out of possession he doesn’t look to create space or receive a pass. He doesn’t block forward runs, doesn’t cut balls out. Lammers crossing is shite and I’d question his ability to pick out a forward thinking pass - one telling one on Saturday.

He’s not a natural 10. Absolutely ridiculous we are spending that sort of money on a player we are trying to mould into a position when the attributes you require for that role are not there.
 
CaptainCourageous said:
Except every manager he’s played under utilising him up top. He’s never a 10, he barely links midfield to attack, his movement is poor, his control is a hit or miss, he’s not exactly great at playing and getting himself out of tight spaces. He doesn’t break the lines, wasteful in possession, his off the ball movement and ability to drop deep is lacking, rarely gets beyond the striker. Out of possession he doesn’t look to create space or receive a pass. He doesn’t block forward runs, doesn’t cut balls out. Lammers crossing is shite and I’d question his ability to pick out a forward thinking pass - one telling one on Saturday.

He’s not a natural 10. Absolutely ridiculous we are spending that sort of money on a player we are trying to mould into a position when the attributes you require for that role are not there.
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And when you already had Cantwell, Lawrence, Hagi and Dowell for that position.

It's really hard to see what Beale was thinking.
 
Dashboard Jesus said:
He may well have but he has nothing in his game to suggest he is a striker.
Easily knocked off the ball, misses big chances. Beale signed him to play as a 10.
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He missed a massive chance against celtic but he also has a couple of great finishes in his limited time in the box this season, and set up the goal in holland by breaking in behind the backline.

We have 4 number 9s and play 1 up
 
You can see the touch of class and the ability with Danilo.

Lammers and Dessers, with the amount of cash we've invested in them, you're expecting much more from them.
 
blue genes said:
He’s not shown much either, it’s a tad concerning, especially as Beale inadvisedly announced “ he would take us to the next level”.

Expect him to start on Thursday & hopefully he produces a big performance
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Like a lot of things Beale says, he should maybe just keep quiet. Cifuentes needs time to get used to the Scottish league and European football.

Also playing him in a position that isn't his natural one hasn't helped him settle.
 
A signing I can't get my head around. Don't know what his best postion is and from what I have seen so far not suited to us or Scottish football at all!
 
The guys been nowhere near as bad as being made out. Hyperbole nonsense from posters trying to outdo each other
 
RLoyal said:
The guys been nowhere near as bad as being made out. Hyperbole nonsense from posters trying to outdo each other
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You happy with his level of performances, what he's produced, the role he's being asked to play and what he's brought to the team. Do you see him kicking on and being a main stay, someone who will drag us through the shite when the chips are down and become value for money?

He started one of our Champions League qualifying matches (Servette at Ibrox) and wasn't given the nod against Celtic either.

He's been poor.
 
He'd be more effective in a front 2 with Roofe or Danilo.

I'm not writing him off as I have seen flashes of talent but it's hard to see where he fits into Beale's system.

A weird one.
 
Dashboard Jesus said:
Lammers isn't a striker, it's ludicrous to even suggest it.
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Better tell Lammers then

"I have always been a real striker," Lammers said. "I have always played as a striker. I am not a striker who stays in the box only, I like to get on the ball and have a connection with team-mates.
 
CaptainCourageous said:
You happy with his level of performances, what he's produced, the role he's being asked to play and what he's brought to the team. Do you see him kicking on and being a main stay, someone who will drag us through the shite when the chips are down and become value for money?

He started one of our Champions League qualifying matches (Servette at Ibrox) and wasn't given the nod against Celtic either.

He's been poor.
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I think he'd be decent for us in a 2. His assist v psv was a run in behind from a central striking position. I've not been happy with anyones performances tbh Butland aside. That's all on Beale
 
PaulieGualtieri said:
What's his best position?

If it's number 10 then the issue is Lawrence and Cantwell are miles ahead of him.

Waste of money on a position we didn't need.
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I would say he’s best as a number 10 but yeah I agree with you, Lawrence and Todd are clear. I still think he is decent player and a good backup or a super sub. But not for 3 million.
 
SDF said:
Better tell Lammers then

"I have always been a real striker," Lammers said. "I have always played as a striker. I am not a striker who stays in the box only, I like to get on the ball and have a connection with team-mates.
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He doesn’t have any attributes to play as a 9 tho,he looks much better suited to playing in behind.

Unfortunately for us up to now he’s just not been very good.
 
ScottRFC said:
Sam Lammers is an out and out striker, nothing else

You wouldnt stick Kris Boyd out on the right
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There are goalkeepers who could match his goalscoring record.

He's not a striker, he's not a 10, he's not a winger, he's not a midfielder.

He's a very expensive blunder.
 
CraigMoore3 said:
And when you already had Cantwell, Lawrence, Hagi and Dowell for that position.

It's really hard to see what Beale was thinking.
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Like most of Beale’s decisions at the club, we are all completely puzzled.

Looks like an ego project from Beale who thinks he can restart the career of a player he has liked for years.

I would completely get signing Lammers if it was one bad year out of say last 4/5 seasons but he has done nothing in the game to merit us spending £3.5m on him. Another example of Beale having too much influence on transfers now, with no one in place to question why we were buying him, never mind the fact we already had 3/4 No 10s already on the books.
 
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