I‘m not in any way trying to deflect from the refs performance , it was there for all to see , but it was also very predictable and certain of our players were too easily sucked in , we need to be wiser to it all.That Kent was by and large cr@p I agree with, but neither instances when he was carded were actual offences. Same with Tav's yellow.
Sheer corruption and consider the c;;t whose only thought was to have a boot at Sakala when he made a break in the second half and laughs it off at the subsequent free kick.
Agree , hence my comments about our players needing to be wiser to what’s going on.The biggest problem last night was Hagi getting stupid early booking. He is always likely to pick up an odd yellow for poor tackle but does battles. After early booking didn’t put a tackle in or battle all night.
Correct assessment. When we had possession we gave the ball away far too easily when pressed, and that was all over the pitch.In the first half Bassey gave the ball back/away 11 times, Morelos 10 Wright 6 and Kent 6. The front 3 did very little linking play and in the main gave it away very easily. The majority of the time the ball by passed the midfield.
In the first half Bassey gave the ball back/away 11 times, Morelos 10 Wright 6 and Kent 6. The front 3 did very little linking play and in the main gave it away very easily. The majority of the time the ball by passed the midfield.
Blaming the referee seems more sensible to some.Blaming the midfielders, for the midfield being poor.
Seems pretty sensible to me.
Don’t tackle or challengeI‘m not in any way trying to deflect from the refs performance , it was there for all to see , but it was also very predictable and certain of our players were too easily sucked in , we need to be wiser to it all.
Some didn’t .Don’t tackle or challenge
January will be tough for that, can only think of Hagi who made an immediate impact from a January moveSands is no upgrade to what we have, I want players in who are going to take us to the next level and be first team starters.
Regarding Kamara ,no matter what his “job is” no danger he’s being told when kent and Wright make runs and if you play it forward 30 yards we’re in ,don’t do it , to turn and play it 5 yards safe is 100% on him , at least twice it happened last night and as a fan it’s frustrating to watch
Boils me mateSafety first seems to be our way.
That is abject nonsense. The two you mention weren’t making runs and Morelos was static. It is far better to retain the ball than give it away on a Hollywood pass. Both Kamara and Sands kept the ball better than the front 3.Regarding Kamara ,no matter what his “job is” no danger he’s being told when kent and Wright make runs and if you play it forward 30 yards we’re in ,don’t do it , to turn and play it 5 yards safe is 100% on him , at least twice it happened last night and as a fan it’s frustrating to watch
Why is it unfair?
They allowed has beens like Brown and Hayes to boss the game.
I would guess that Hagi was supposed to drop in take the ball and drive with it but it didn't really happen.People keep blaming them for the midfield being poor last night - imo they were hung out to dry by the system. When you go with those two sitting in front of the back 4 and then instruct Wright & Kent to hug the touchline, and Hagi to get beyond the striker I'm not sure how you can ever expect your midfield to control the game. Aberdeen were getting bodies in there, outnumbering them and giving them no options to play to. Don't believe it was GVB's intent to have them control the game in the first place. They were there to protect the back 4 and screen our defence (which they did well considering we didn't give up many chances), while we look to go long into our forward players.
A look back at Sands highlights from last night and you can see he is a good player imo. Last night was the wrong movie for him:
So many crying out that Hayes dominated midfield.
Team far too easily bullied last night. Didn’t look up for the physical fight. We are still SO soft.
Just stood back and allowed Brown to influence the referee as well. Players should have been going mental.
Kamara went missing at yet another difficult away ground.. its a common theme with him.
As soon as it gets physical he retreats into his shell.
Tough debut for Sands.
We weren't bullied mate, there was hardly a tackle in the game worth talking about.
This is probably the least physical Aberdeen side for years.
A back 4 of Ramsey, Bates, McCrorie and Hayes has no real physicality in it.
No McKenna, Consodine, Taylor or Gallagher going through our forwards.
I don't remember once when Brown done any of our players and there's no Cosgrove or Main up front now either.
The 1-1 draw was down to Rangers not playing well and Kamara and Sands getting outnumbered in midfield because Hagi is a passenger when the opposition have possession.
Absolutely nothing to do with physicality.
Certainly the wrong game to pitch him in.People keep blaming them for the midfield being poor last night - imo they were hung out to dry by the system. When you go with those two sitting in front of the back 4 and then instruct Wright & Kent to hug the touchline, and Hagi to get beyond the striker I'm not sure how you can ever expect your midfield to control the game. Aberdeen were getting bodies in there, outnumbering them and giving them no options to play to. Don't believe it was GVB's intent to have them control the game in the first place. They were there to protect the back 4 and screen our defence (which they did well considering we didn't give up many chances), while we look to go long into our forward players.
A look back at Sands highlights from last night and you can see he is a good player imo. Last night was the wrong movie for him:
...and that would've changed his performance in what way? A cheating cvnt is a cheating cvnt.How were they bullied? 21 fouls doesn't indicate being bullied. Not all were fouls but we were making more challenges.
Agree about Brown - Tav or Goldson should have been telling Clancy about the cheating twunt.
Yip.And we made it even more difficult to compete by actually playing Kamara & Dands that deep that for a large part of the game they weren't even competing in midfield give the opposition control of the game
Madness for me & is one of the main reasons for the poor overall performance
Spot on.We weren't bullied mate, there was hardly a tackle in the game worth talking about.
This is probably the least physical Aberdeen side for years.
A back 4 of Ramsey, Bates, McCrorie and Hayes has no real physicality in it.
No McKenna, Consodine, Taylor or Gallagher going through our forwards.
I don't remember once when Brown done any of our players and there's no Cosgrove or Main up front now either.
The 1-1 draw was down to Rangers not playing well and Kamara and Sands getting outnumbered in midfield because Hagi is a passenger when the opposition have possession.
Absolutely nothing to do with physicality.
Kent was away once the first half a diagonal he was in , Kamara played it to to tav , no excuseThat is abject nonsense. The two you mention weren’t making runs and Morelos was static. It is far better to retain the ball than give it away on a Hollywood pass. Both Kamara and Sands kept the ball better than the front 3.
Kamara was absolutely terrible.People keep blaming them for the midfield being poor last night - imo they were hung out to dry by the system. When you go with those two sitting in front of the back 4 and then instruct Wright & Kent to hug the touchline, and Hagi to get beyond the striker I'm not sure how you can ever expect your midfield to control the game. Aberdeen were getting bodies in there, outnumbering them and giving them no options to play to. Don't believe it was GVB's intent to have them control the game in the first place. They were there to protect the back 4 and screen our defence (which they did well considering we didn't give up many chances), while we look to go long into our forward players.
A look back at Sands highlights from last night and you can see he is a good player imo. Last night was the wrong movie for him:
The biggest problem was Bassey and Morelos giving the ball back to Aberdeen.The midfield was overrun
Hagi had a shocker and was anonymous
Sands was anonymous
Kamara was largely anonymous
Wright wasn’t great
Kent was about our only chance of an out ball and doing something
When 4/5 of your players that are in midfield or track back aren’t at the races, it’s never going to end well.
Without writing Sands off I don't see what he will add to the starting 11, maybe more a comment on the type of player he seems to be as appose to him particular I feel he falls into the McCrorie, Zungu, Halliday type bracket just not the type of player we need I can't see goals/assists or midfield domination in his game. Harsh i admit given one game but with the limited run-outs with the likes of Bacuna you can see potential/skill that we miss at least but I just cant get excited about Sands...Entire team were poor last night but for anyone to write off Sands after 1 game is mental.
Entire team were poor last night but for anyone to write off Sands after 1 game is mental.
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The level of bipolar hyperbole on display on FF is extremely worrying. There are some fantastic posters who have great insight into Rangers and the game in general but, unfortunately, there are far too many who display behaviour which is, quite frankly, concerning.
Really?
I've lost count of the times Kamara has totally dominated McGregor, Brown, Rogic and whoever else they've tried and failed in midfield against him.
He's ran the show for us at every tough away ground in Scotland and as recently as Tynecastle a few weeks ago.
If Kamara disappears in all these tough away games, how come we've only lost 1 in about 18 months, won the league by 25 points last season and are 4 points clear this season?
The fact that Kamara has played in virtually all these games, yet "hides" in the tough ones according to you, suggests he isn't very good at hiding.
It's been a common theme since signed by Gerrard.
When we're playing well he's outstanding and at the heart of everything we do.
When we aren't playing well as a team he struggles to assert himself on the game.
Pittodrie
Tannadice
Easter Rd
Dens Park
McDermit
At no point in any of the above games this season did Kamara take control of the midfield for us.. all poor team performances and close games we either won by the odd goal or dropped points in.
And I suggest you go back and watch the game at Tynecastle because he certainly didn't "run the show". The stats back that up.
I like Glen, he's had some outstanding performances for us but for a player with his ability I expect more when the going gets tough.. he's the guy we should be looking at to bring some calm and composure in games like Tuesday.
Both him and Sands got outnumbered on Tuesday night.
Hagi will never replicate what Aribo or Arfield give you as an attacking mid.
He won't pressure the opposition's defensive mids the way they would, which gives them far more time to dictate play.
You end up virtually playing with just 2 midfielders.
It was far from being a physical game on Tuesday night.
Kamara's tackle, that caught Ferguson's ankle, was probably the worst tackle of the night and even it was nothing major.
I never mentioned it being physical.
I agree the way Gio set us up played into Aberdeens hands.. but I still expect more from someone like Kamara.
Cracking player but not suited to Scottish football.Expect more from Kamara TBF. He has been here long enough to know what the sheep would act like. Guy doesn't change enough games for me, we know is capable of it but doesn't show it enough
Bassey needs to play his own game and not spend time trying to emulate the Goldson Hollywood pass.Thought sands had a decent first half but the second half both him and Kamara were hiding imo. Didn’t help when bassey and Goldson were just lumping it up the park most of the second half.
And RB when he put Kent in his pocket.Mental considering he was playing LB.