Scotland Euro 2020 statistically the worst campaign in 63 years

uneasydaz

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SCOTLAND'S Euro 2020 campaign was statistically the WORST of any tournament where they played three games in their group, stretching back 63 years.

Steve Clarke's side exited the tournament after collecting just one point in three games following home defeats to Czech Republic and Croatia and a draw in England.

It meant Scotland have now failed to qualify from a group in 11 major tournaments.

Only three times before at major tournaments where Scotland have played three group games, have they managed to pick up just one point.

In the World Cup in 1958, Scotland only got one point and when Alex Ferguson was in the caretaker manager's role in Mexico in 1986, and in 1998 when Craig Brown's side played in France, Scotland only picked up a solitary draw and two defeats too.

At Euro 2020, Scotland had a goal difference of minus four after two-goal defeats to the Czechs and Croats and scored just once.

In 1958, Scotland drew with Yugoslavia and suffered narrow defeats to Paraguay and France to end up with a goal difference of minus two, while scoring four goals.

Mexico 86 saw the Scots lose their first two games to Denmark and West Germany before drawing with Uruguay.

They also only managed to score one goal, but their goal difference was only minus two.

And in France, Brown's boys drew with Norway in between losing to Brazil and Morocco.

Their goal difference was also minus four, but unlike Clarke's side, they managed to score two goals.

In all other tournaments with three games, Scotland have collected more than a point, but still exited at the first round with varying degrees of heartache.

The 1954 World Cup saw Scotland play only two games in their group, which they lost.

Below, you can look back on the national team's record in full in tournaments with groups with three games.

Scotland's record in groups with three games​

World Cup 1958: Points: 1; Scored: 4; Conceded: 6.

World Cup 1974: Points: 4; Scored: 3; Conceded: 1.

World Cup 1978: Points: 4; Scored: 5; Conceded: 6.

World Cup 1982: Points: 4; Scored: 8; Conceded: 8.

World Cup 1986: Points: 1; Scored: 1; Conceded: 3.

World Cup 1990: Points: 3; Scored: 2; Conceded: 3.

Euro 92: Points: 3; Scored: 3; Conceded: 3.

Euro 96: Points: 3; Scored: 1; Conceded: 2.

World Cup 1998: Points: 1; Scored: 2; Conceded: 6.

Euro 2020: Points: 1; Scored: 1; Conceded: 5.
 
Wonder if people who were dancing in the beer gardens and the streets after that game feel like absolute tits now.
I wouldn’t, we got a great result against our traditional rivals in a major tournament at their ground. Celebrating it is fine.

The ones who should feel like tits are the guys singing in George Sq and the guys singing about Harry Kane in the Central Station toilets last night.
 
11 tournaments in 67 years, that almost 1 every 6 years.

Never made it beyond the first group stage.

6 victories. Zaire, Holland, New Zealand, Sweden, CIS (Russia), Switzerland.

It’s a pretty unenviable and unique record.

With the promise of a deep review and grassroots change almost every couple of years since 1978.
 
11 finals and not once getting out the group stage is really embarrassing.

We all see Wales, Northern Ireland and Irish Republic as smaller football nations but their records shame us.
This small nation excuse wears thin, Croatia are smaller than Scotland, Souness was spot on last night our tactics are from another era and we are miles behind coaching standards that other countries.
 
A lot of Scotland's problems stem from how games are refereed in Scotland. Its like nowhere else in the world and it encourages clubs to play big physical players rather than the smaller technical ones.

Technical players develop quicker and are given game time earlier in all the other European countries.
 
SCOTLAND'S Euro 2020 campaign was statistically the WORST of any tournament where they played three games in their group, stretching back 63 years.

Steve Clarke's side exited the tournament after collecting just one point in three games following home defeats to Czech Republic and Croatia and a draw in England.

It meant Scotland have now failed to qualify from a group in 11 major tournaments.

Only three times before at major tournaments where Scotland have played three group games, have they managed to pick up just one point.

In the World Cup in 1958, Scotland only got one point and when Alex Ferguson was in the caretaker manager's role in Mexico in 1986, and in 1998 when Craig Brown's side played in France, Scotland only picked up a solitary draw and two defeats too.

At Euro 2020, Scotland had a goal difference of minus four after two-goal defeats to the Czechs and Croats and scored just once.

In 1958, Scotland drew with Yugoslavia and suffered narrow defeats to Paraguay and France to end up with a goal difference of minus two, while scoring four goals.

Mexico 86 saw the Scots lose their first two games to Denmark and West Germany before drawing with Uruguay.

They also only managed to score one goal, but their goal difference was only minus two.

And in France, Brown's boys drew with Norway in between losing to Brazil and Morocco.

Their goal difference was also minus four, but unlike Clarke's side, they managed to score two goals.

In all other tournaments with three games, Scotland have collected more than a point, but still exited at the first round with varying degrees of heartache.

The 1954 World Cup saw Scotland play only two games in their group, which they lost.

Below, you can look back on the national team's record in full in tournaments with groups with three games.

Scotland's record in groups with three games​

World Cup 1958: Points: 1; Scored: 4; Conceded: 6.

World Cup 1974: Points: 4; Scored: 3; Conceded: 1.

World Cup 1978: Points: 4; Scored: 5; Conceded: 6.

World Cup 1982: Points: 4; Scored: 8; Conceded: 8.

World Cup 1986: Points: 1; Scored: 1; Conceded: 3.

World Cup 1990: Points: 3; Scored: 2; Conceded: 3.

Euro 92: Points: 3; Scored: 3; Conceded: 3.

Euro 96: Points: 3; Scored: 1; Conceded: 2.

World Cup 1998: Points: 1; Scored: 2; Conceded: 6.

Euro 2020: Points: 1; Scored: 1; Conceded: 5.
But keech jackass said they were heros
 
I wouldn’t, we got a great result against our traditional rivals in a major tournament at their ground. Celebrating it is fine.

The ones who should feel like tits are the guys singing in George Sq and the guys singing about Harry Kane in the Central Station toilets last night.
That’s the attitude we slag the small teams in the league for, absolute crap against everyone else in the league, come to us defend as if life depends on it, celebrate the draw as if cup final and then beaten the next week and relegated!!

It’s not really a good attitude. I’d have rather been beat 8-0 by England and qualified than a draw and two atrocious displays and defeats.
 
The other factors I can think of are two home games and also playing under 3 points for a win in a sense devaluing Drawn matches .
 
That’s the attitude we slag the small teams in the league for, absolute crap against everyone else in the league, come to us defend as if life depends on it, celebrate the draw as if cup final and then beaten the next week and relegated!!

It’s not really a good attitude. I’d have rather been beat 8-0 by England and qualified than a draw and two atrocious displays and defeats.
I’m not defending the other results and have been very critical of our tactics. But we can celebrate good results and be critical of poor ones. It’s not one or the other.

If we had been pumped by England but won the other two matches I would have celebrated the good results and been critical of the humping.
 
Despite a fair amount of decent players Scottish football was well behind the rest as far back as the 70s. And now we are even further behind.

For me it seems to just need ripped up and started again. Disband the SFA, create a new organisation and put together a team to bring the game into the 21st century. There are good players in the system there just needs to be a structure which helps them flourish and ensure there is a conveyer belt of talent coming through at all levels.

The longer we wait the further behind we’ll fall.
 
What we really need is a period of genuine soul searching, maybe a national football enquiry and some reports written by specialists which can then be shoved into a drawer while we go back to kick and rush football, blootering folk. drinking far too much, valuing cloggers over passers and never qualifying for another major tournament again.
 
This small nation excuse wears thin, Croatia are smaller than Scotland, Souness was spot on last night our tactics are from another era and we are miles behind coaching standards that other countries.

The majority of the squad is made up of players plying their trade in EPL where, I'm oretty confident, the coaching, ss well as conditioning, etc, is up there with the very best.

And I'd hazard a guess even the home-based Scots at Rangers, Celtic and Hibs are not trained by dinosaurs.

The only dinosaurs are Clarke and the coaches he has surrounded himself with. Souness was spot on last night when he said our football and tactics employed are from a bygone era.

There is a decent bunch of players in that squad, far better than both results and performances would have you imagine. But trying to make Scotland an international version of Kilmarnock will inhibit any quality within the squad.

Clarke has to go but we know that ain't going to happen. All we can hope for is that Ange makes a mess at Scumdome and Scum see Clarke as his replacement.
 
And, statistically, Steve Clarke's record as Scotland manager is one of the worst ever - might be wrong but I believe the only permanent managers with a poorer record were Bobby Brown, Bertie Vogts and Craig Burley.

There may have been others who took charge for a short, or limited, period of time.

His record -
P 24 W 9 D 7 L 8 F 31 A 31 Win %age 37.5%.

Admittedly 2 of those drawn matches were ultimately won on penalties.

He has victories over Luxembourg, the Faroe Islands, the Czech Republic (×2), Slovakia, Kazakhstan and Cyprus (x2).

From the 60's Ian McColl, BJK (×2), Tommy Doc, Willie Ormond, Ally MacLeod, Andy Roxburgh, Craig Brown, Walter, Alex McLeish (x2), Strachan and Craig feckin' Levein all have better records.

But Steve Clarke is the man to lead the nation forward - all because he made Kilmarnock hard to beat, took some points off Rangers and won two penalty shoot outs.

The sooner he's punted and installed at parkhead the better.

Perhaps we can then get a forward thinking national team coach who plays the best players irrespective of their background and commence the road to, at least, respectability as a football nation.

If we ourselves, at the same time, could reclaim our nation from the republican scum in charge and in the stands then that would be a very pleasant bonus.

Midweek rant over - and relax :)
 
That’s the attitude we slag the small teams in the league for, absolute crap against everyone else in the league, come to us defend as if life depends on it, celebrate the draw as if cup final and then beaten the next week and relegated!!

It’s not really a good attitude. I’d have rather been beat 8-0 by England and qualified than a draw and two atrocious displays and defeats.
Spot on mate .
I predicted from previous experience that we'd fail miserably last night .
The young supporters have just had a small taste of what the rest of us have gone through and it could be another 20 years before the next generation get to experience this shit show .
 
Have only one twice out the last 11 games as well.
Against Faroes and 10 man Luxembourge.
At home twice ,,and could go through in third out of four.
It was harder to get knocked out ffs.
Nothing like polishing a turd.
I've been winding up guys at my work by saying even Luxembourg have previously reached the quarter finals.
That's a small country.
 
Northern Ireland and Wales have qualified for the next round of every euro and World Cup finals they have been in.ROI have also made it out of the group stage.i am getting sick of well we are just a wee country,Croatia a population of four million that is just thirty years old have achieved far more in international football than Scotland have in total.in some campaigns we were unlucky but not this one.all our energy and focus should have been on winning the first game not on the second game v England that would have taken care of itself.
 
I was in Spain in 1982 when the Scotland squad was full of top class players and we managed to mess it up. What chance has this crop of no users?
So was I and they were not top class players. If you watched us get royally fucked by Brazil in Seville you would have seen a team full of top class players and none of them were Scottish.
 
Between 1998-2021 nothing changed and nothing was learned.

23 wasted years.

If anything we went backwards and lucked our way to one major tournament.

It will take new ideas, infrastructure, coaching methods and a root and branch change and it will need a generation to reap the rewards.

Scotland will not commit time, energy and resources to lasting change and unless we manage to bring througu a bumper crop of talent that fulfils it’s potential then we’ll perhaps sneak the odd qualification here and there.
 
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