Scottish amateur cup

Cuparbear said:
6th round today holders Cupar Hearts through to the quarter finals beating Dinamo Paisley 4-2 after being 2-0 down,the other Fife Greig Park Rangers take Drumchapel to a replay after drawing 3-3
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A very strong list of remaining teams. Cupar grinding it out again today. Greig park are very strong this year they beat Cupar in the league not long ago. Steins also looking very good going by their results.
 
gazzah said:
A very strong list of remaining teams. Cupar grinding it out again today. Greig park are very strong this year they beat Cupar in the league not long ago. Steins also looking very good going by their results.
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Yep great competition this year Gazzah I wouldn't like to call it tbh
 
Clydebuilt_UK said:
Drumchapel Amateurs or Drumchapel Utd?
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Drumchapel Amateurs.

EKYM v St Joseph’s replay next week will be a cracker, drew 1-1 yesterday.

Pather through v Glenburn yesterday, will likely play Shortlees.

Steins, as mentioned above, look very strong.

St Patrick’s also still there.

I think I’m right in saying if Cupar win it this year they’ll become only the second team ever to win it 3 years in a row, the other being Murrayfield AFC in the 1920/1930s.
 
Quarter Final Draw

Greenock HSFP v Cupar Hearts

St Patrick’s FP AFC v Steins Thistle

St Joseph’s v Drumchapel Amateurs

FC Pather v Dunblane SC
 
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Cuparbear said:
What are Greenock like looks another tough away day for Cupar
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On their day they can be a very good team and the striker (Grant) is a class act. They defeated us (Oban) earlier in the season but we had a very young team out with the majority being late teens/early 20s so difficult to say.
They did however beat FC Pather 6-1 in the league so must have something about them.
 
Roscoblue said:
Drumchapel Amateurs.

EKYM v St Joseph’s replay next week will be a cracker, drew 1-1 yesterday.

Pather through v Glenburn yesterday, will likely play Shortlees.

Steins, as mentioned above, look very strong.

St Patrick’s also still there.

I think I’m right in saying if Cupar win it this year they’ll become only the second team ever to win it 3 years in a row, the other being Murrayfield AFC in the 1920/1930s.
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I’m sure bannockburn won it three times in a row back in the 80/90s ?
 
Roscoblue said:
Quarter Final Draw

Greenock HSFP v Cupar Hearts

St Patrick’s FP AFC v Steins Thistle

East Kilbride YM or St Joseph’s v
Greig Park Rangers or Drumchapel Amateurs

FC Pather or Shortlees v Dunblane SC or Alva
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Hopefully see St Joes v The Drum

Would be an absolute cracker with a big crowd.
 
standard of teams in the quarters this year is much higher than in previous years. Only really the two Stirling area sides Dunblane/Alva stick out as being real weak links.

Heard Steins have applied to the EOS for the forthcoming season.
 
Gmcg95 said:
standard of teams in the quarters this year is much higher than in previous years. Only really the two Stirling area sides Dunblane/Alva stick out as being real weak links.

Heard Steins have applied to the EOS for the forthcoming season.
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I agree with you on all of this. I don’t think Dunblane or Alva can get anywhere near Pather or Shortlees. I also think Drum are a bit weaker than the rest but have saved their best performances for the Scottish.

Greig Park Rangers could be a dark horse, EKYM/St Joe’s will be delighted they get the tie at home, don’t think they’d fancy going to Fife.

I don’t think Steins have applied, yet. I actually think they hoped to give it a season or 2 yet but the demise of the SPAFA might expedite that.
 
Delighted to see cupar going deep again. I dont doubt theres a bit more quality in the late stages this year but an opportunity for 3 in a row isnt going to come along again any time soon. But one game at a time.
 
Tomorrow’s (Saturday 8th February) Fixtures

East Kilbride YM v St Joseph’s
13:00 KO @ Kirktonholme

Greig Park Rangers v Drumchapel Amateurs
13:00 KO @ Bayview Stadium, Leven

FC Pather v Shortlees
14:00 KO @ Wishaw Sports Centre

Dunblane SC v Alva AFC
14:00 KO @ Dunblane High School.



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East Kilbride YM 4 v St Joseph’s 6

Greig Park Rangers 1 v Drumchapel Amateurs 5

FC Pather 4 v Shortlees 1

Dunblane SC 2 v Alva AFC 0
 
Quarter Final draw updated in post 8.

Really surprised at Drum result today but well done to them.

I watch Greenock HSFP beat Galston 2-0 in the West of Scotland cup today. That team won’t beat Cupar. Davie Grant was missing though and he’ll make a huge difference to them.
 
Roscoblue said:
Quarter Final draw updated in post 8.

Really surprised at Drum result today but well done to them.

I watch Greenock HSFP beat Galston 2-0 in the West of Scotland cup today. That team won’t beat Cupar. Davie Grant was missing though and he’ll make a huge difference to them.
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Greig Park seemingly gave up home advantage 2 hours before ko and the game got played at Bayview according to my mate
 
When’s the quarter finals being played, the St. Joes v Drum is one I’d go and watch if we’re not playing same day.
 
butch70 said:
I’m sure bannockburn won it three times in a row back in the 80/90s ?
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In 1978 Cambusbarron Rovers won the Scottish Amateur Cup for a third time in ten years with a 2-0 win after extra time at Hampden Park against Ayrshire side Crosshouse Waverley.

This win was with a completely different squad of players with no players from the previous cup winning sides of ‘68 and ‘69 in the squad.

A fleet of buses from Mackies of Alloa ferried a large portion of the village residents through to watch the game which was a tight affair but as soon as it went into extra time the Rovers’ coached and trained by Frank Beattie always looked like they would come out on top. Two headed goals, one in each half of extra time by Jim Fowler and Phil Ward meant the cup came back to Cambusbarron for the third time.
 
Roscoblue said:
Match 1st mate. St Joes are considerably better than Drum.
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That game will be a battle. I played and briefly coached the Drum with the St Joes manager.

St Joes are a good team but they aren’t considerably better at all.
 
Gazza no8 said:
That game will be a battle. I played and briefly coached the Drum with the St Joes manager.

St Joes are a good team but they aren’t considerably better at all.
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I disagree mate. If the game was at the Hibby, it could be a bit of a leveller but I think St Joe’s will be comfortable. I’ve seen both teams a few times this season, Drum have ranged from below average to ok.

As I’ve said before, they’ve kept their best for the Scottish so hopefully they’re up to it in the quarters.
 
Roscoblue said:
I disagree mate. If the game was at the Hibby, it could be a bit of a leveller but I think St Joe’s will be comfortable. I’ve seen both teams a few times this season, Drum have ranged from below average to ok.

As I’ve said before, they’ve kept their best for the Scottish so hopefully they’re up to it in the quarters.
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Who's the winner this year Rossco?
 
Dunblane have done fantasically well getting to this stage but will get horsed off Pather in the next round. Path£r have a good squad so will fancy their chances. Personally haven’t seen them this season.

Although both decent sides, Greenock and Drumchapel don’t have the overall strength to win it IMO.

St Pats and Steins is the tie of the round for me, whoever wins will be well placed to go on and win it with their big squads they can rest/rotate players as the fixtures pile up.

St Joes have been the form team in the West all season. Cupar have the recent pedigree in the cup but another team I very rarely get to see.

St Joes to win. A Cupar 3-peat would be incredible.
 
I honestly think it's all about experience at this stage obviously Cupar has it I'm worried about Steins looking good this year again
 
Gmcg95 said:
Dunblane have done fantasically well getting to this stage but will get horsed off Pather in the next round. Path£r have a good squad so will fancy their chances. Personally haven’t seen them this season.

Although both decent sides, Greenock and Drumchapel don’t have the overall strength to win it IMO.

St Pats and Steins is the tie of the round for me, whoever wins will be well placed to go on and win it with their big squads they can rest/rotate players as the fixtures pile up.

St Joes have been the form team in the West all season. Cupar have the recent pedigree in the cup but another team I very rarely get to see.

St Joes to win. A Cupar 3-peat would be incredible.
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I think at St Pat’s will be delighted to get Steins at home. Think Steins would be far too strong for them at Allandale.

I think St Joes are just a wee bit short of the quality they’d need to win it. A couple of brilliant individuals but not enough to win it IMO.

Pather will fancy their chances, without doubt and the draw has been kind to them.
 
Roscoblue said:
I think at St Pat’s will be delighted to get Steins at home. Think Steins would be far too strong for them at Allandale.

I think St Joes are just a wee bit short of the quality they’d need to win it. A couple of brilliant individuals but not enough to win it IMO.

Pather will fancy their chances, without doubt and the draw has been kind to them.
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Where are Pather from?
 
St Joes edging out YM after two brilliant games.

A tale of what might’ve been for YM, a thoroughly dominant first half today ended with st joes making it 2-2 right on the HT whistle. YM should’ve went in ahead, if not by two then at least one. This was turning point number 1.

Joes took the lead 3-2 and we levelled with a superb free kick around the hour mark. The game then turned on a red card for our CB for a second yellow, and they scored from the free kick with the ball hitting the keeper on the way out after it struck the bar. Turning point number 2. Sometimes yer lucks just no in!

Well done to st joes, hopefully we can get a victory over them in the league and keep progressing in the West
 
cooprfc said:
Pather/Wishaw.

I'm guessing this is the Pather Sunday team from a few years ago who shared a lot of players with Wishaw from Saturday amateurs at the time?
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The club is the same folk but not sure how
Many are still there as they signed a lot of boys. Some very strong teams left this year definitely the top 4/5 clubs in the ammies remaining. Steins last chance to win it before going EOS as looking at the central league be lucky to have a league next year. Afternoon games been very heavily decimated over the last 6/7 years .
 
gazzah said:
The club is the same folk but not sure how
Many are still there as they signed a lot of boys. Some very strong teams left this year definitely the top 4/5 clubs in the ammies remaining. Steins last chance to win it before going EOS as looking at the central league be lucky to have a league next year. Afternoon games been very heavily decimated over the last 6/7 years .
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It’s not just the afternoon that’s been hit, it’s amateur football across the board. Steins have a dilemma if their application for EoS is unsuccessful with the Central looking like merging with the colleges morning league. Steins will have no interest in that. I’m not sure some of the Pather players will fancy it either.
 
Roscoblue said:
It’s not just the afternoon that’s been hit, it’s amateur football across the board. Steins have a dilemma if their application for EoS is unsuccessful with the Central looking like merging with the colleges morning league. Steins will have no interest in that. I’m not sure some of the Pather players will fancy it either.
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The expansion of the juniors into "the pyramid" along with the associated u20s conferences is killing amateur football.

I know if i had my time again and I could be 19 and play Friday nights for a junior u20s team or play Saturfay afternoons for an amateur side, what option looks more appealing?

I've been involved at all levels- SPFL, junior and amateur and imo amateur can only survive by moving to morning football. In fact, I think it'd thrive there. Saturday morning amateur is an easier sell. I've been on both sides of that fence- at a Saturday morning team and trying to convince mates from Junior to come there with the promise that you get your game out the way and Saturday to yourself. While I've also been in the Junior game trying to convince Saturday morning players that playing at the higher level is better.

I'd say selling them the idea of having their Saturday back was easier.
 
cooprfc said:
The expansion of the juniors into "the pyramid" along with the associated u20s conferences is killing amateur football.

I know if i had my time again and I could be 19 and play Friday nights for a junior u20s team or play Saturfay afternoons for an amateur side, what option looks more appealing?

I've been involved at all levels- SPFL, junior and amateur and imo amateur can only survive by moving to morning football. In fact, I think it'd thrive there. Saturday morning amateur is an easier sell. I've been on both sides of that fence- at a Saturday morning team and trying to convince mates from Junior to come there with the promise that you get your game out the way and Saturday to yourself. While I've also been in the Junior game trying to convince Saturday morning players that playing at the higher level is better.

I'd say selling them the idea of having their Saturday back was easier.
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I agree, to an extent. I’ve been an advocate of the afternoon amateur leagues moving to midday kick off, rather than the traditional 2pm.

I had the conversation only this week with a few boys about the morning leagues becoming the main attraction but I just can’t see it. It’s been threatening to happen for years but, ultimately, the top morning teams are a flash in the pan. UB United, Tynecastle, Tannochside all recent examples of the is in the west.

Over 35s (Friday nights) hasn’t helped the amateur game either.
 
Roscoblue said:
I agree, to an extent. I’ve been an advocate of the afternoon amateur leagues moving to midday kick off, rather than the traditional 2pm.

I had the conversation only this week with a few boys about the morning leagues becoming the main attraction but I just can’t see it. It’s been threatening to happen for years but, ultimately, the top morning teams are a flash in the pan. UB United, Tynecastle, Tannochside all recent examples of the is in the west.

Over 35s (Friday nights) hasn’t helped the amateur game either.
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Agree on your final point. I'm now playing that as well and we've a few guys who could still be playing junior or amateur.

I think a shift in kick off times for Saturday amateur is the only way.

You've got under 20s "stealing" the young players with Friday night games and over 35s "stealing" the older players with Friday night games. Saturday amateur has to react to that imo.
 
As a current player I don’t really have much of an issue with 2pm KOs - living in Stirling a Sat AM league isn’t an option anyway - but when we do on the odd occasion play at 1 or even more rarely 12 the general consensus in the team is that those times are much better with finishing early and having more of a Saturday left after it.

Think the option should be given to clubs at the very least.
 
Plenty amateur leagues out there play in the summer

At that level there's no reason why all leagues couldn't do the same

No conflicts with pyramid for the most of the season, better weather. March to October

An opportunity there for those who want to play all year round

Just a thought
 
Gmcg95 said:
As a current player I don’t really have much of an issue with 2pm KOs - living in Stirling a Sat AM league isn’t an option anyway - but when we do on the odd occasion play at 1 or even more rarely 12 the general consensus in the team is that those times are much better with finishing early and having more of a Saturday left after it.

Think the option should be given to clubs at the very least.
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2pm ruins the whole day now and it’s harder to keep boys interested especially the younger ones. We have been going 20 years and this is the worst it’s been. Stirling district down to 7 teams so that will be gone after May. The less travel the better for us but looks like no moves on so we will move to 35s.
 
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