Season ticket refund ?

wother1690

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Thank you for taking the time to give such a detailed response. However, I wasn't talking specifically about you at all mate. I've seen several posters on this and other threads saying about putting the refund towards a season ticket for next year. When you say 'if I cant afford to renew then I won't' then we are actually agreeing. That's exactly what I'm suggesting to folk.

Those who want the refund are entitled to claim it. I've no problem with that whatsoever. Its their call whether they do or not. What I'm saying is if that is the case then just say so. However, for me, if that £150 is the difference between having a season ticket next season and not having one then it suggests that finances are, to say the least, stretched. Anyone in that position might want to pause and question not whether they ask for a refund but, more relevantly, whether the best use of it when they do get it is simply to plough it back into another season ticket that won't see them get to games again.
thank God we have you as the resident financial advisor to everyone on here. Here's a thought, why don't you take your personal views and keep them to yourself? Embarassing.
 

Valley Bluenose

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thank God we have you as the resident financial advisor to everyone on here. Here's a thought, why don't you take your personal views and keep them to yourself? Embarassing.
Who appointed you The Censor? I will offer my views as I see fit. If you don’t like them feel free to debate or ignore. I’m not fussed either way. It’s why we are here. Embarrassing.
 

cooprfc

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thank God we have you as the resident financial advisor to everyone on here. Here's a thought, why don't you take your personal views and keep them to yourself? Embarassing.
What he is saying isn't unreasonable. If you need the £100 that much for a season ticket then maybe people in that situation would be better leaving the season ticket, jumping round their mates for the games and keeping the money for more important things.

Or some people may choose to plough every last penny they have into the club. It's their call.

But what the poster is saying isn't wide and it is based in logic.
 

wother1690

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I don't have a season ticket but there should be a refund option for folk that need it. No judgement for those unfortunate enough to be in that situation.

Plenty other clubs in the league offering refunds
It seems incredible that we criticise the fans who are at the bottom of this professional football cycle, whilst others expect to be untouched by this situation. Fans queueing up to have a pop at each other. Sickening, zero solidarity.
 

wother1690

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Who appointed you The Censor? I will offer my views as I see fit. If you don’t like them feel free to debate or ignore. I’m not fussed either way. It’s why we are here. Embarrassing.
You continue to advise other fans on how they should spend their income according to your view. i'm fucking mortified that you would continue down this path.
 

ibroxbound

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All I will say is it this , if you need the refund by all
means go ahead . BUT you’ll probably find the next time we are at Hampden and play the Mhanks in semi/final you won’t get a ticket . Obv the club won’t come out and say this but I’ve a suspicion you’ll be marked
That would be a very stupid thing for the board even to consider.
 

Valley Bluenose

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You continue to advise other fans on how they should spend their income according to your view. i'm fucking mortified that you would continue down this path.
As an ‘auld c*nt’ who’s been through both good and bad times financially then I reckon my views on having second thoughts on a purchase thats desirable rather than essential offer some wise advice.

I will repeat, for clarity, if folk feel they want a refund then they should apply for it. I just find the idea of saying that the £150 will make the difference between getting a season ticket for next year or not baffling. If I was just £150 short of the funds for a season ticket and couldn’t raise it I’d be more concerned about my wider financial picture. That’s all I’m saying and I don’t consider that view unreasonable. We clearly don’t agree. C’est la vie.
 

graemeM

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No issue for me if anyone wants or needs a refund for last season. Each to their own and shame on any of you who preach that doing so is not right.

Next season... at this point we should not be getting charged different season ticket prices for next season's fixtures, fixtures that in all likely hood will be closed doors. Rangers are making a mistake here in charging different rates.
For example, They are taking £718 off me and £500 off others ( more off others?)
Right now, we are all armchair fans for next season. We should all be paying the EXACT same armchair season ticket fee.
My wife is doing her dinger at me giving Rangers the best part of £900 (me and my son) when there is in reality no probability of getting what I paid for. She quite rightly can't understand the emotional attachment but instead looks at our family finances and on face value giving away £900 when reality is that I could pick up any game I want for less on TV (Rtv)/(IPTV) etc etc.
I'm gifting Rangers money at a time when my employer is effectively about to force me to take unpaid holiday as a cost cutting measure between July and October. Approx £600 per month is how that will hit me.
I need to cut my cloth accordingly. Is gifting Rangers full bhoona for something I'm not getting wise at this point? Probably not. Certainly not if you're looking through my wife's eyes.
  • Will I do it? , yes! I'll live with the bitches earache!
  • Am I happy to pay £718 for a closed doors? No!
  • Will I be expecting a refund on that £718 at the end of next season? Yes, I will. My ticket should never have been sold to me at £718. It should have been sold at the 'arm chair season ticket rate'..
  • What is that rate? It's the price of the worst adult seat in the house.
  • Closed doors, full season, I will be looking for the difference between my seats price and the cheapest seat in the house at the end of this season if it's full season closed doors. I don't expect to be paying £718 for my armchair ticket when someone else is paying £500 as his armchair rate.
  • If we are all home and watching on TV, we should all be paying the EXACT same price*
  • If it's a full season closed doors, there is still an argument that a refund may be due for that also at the end of next season.. Same as there is right now.
  • *Rangers should be selling us all an armchair season ticket only right now I.m.o, with an added increment if we do manage to get bums on seats later (or) they should carry a rebate/ refund liability for the end of next season in their accounts.

I have a mate who supports St Boo. He has a season ticket, his son has a season ticket. He's already asking if he can cancel his ticket but keep his sons active. Why? Because he thinks he can get to see his team on their stream via the price of his sons ticket. He doesn't care in the slightest that his season ticket price will be lost to his club.
Technically, His son is entitled to watch via his virtual season ticket. Daddy can watch for 'free'.
He'll get what he pays for, if they survive.

We need to support where we can and I'm sure we will but we should be paying for what we get, not what we wanted.
Great post. I'm in the same boat, 2 tickets at £720. One of the dearest out with Bar72.

I happily pay this because I've got a good seats and that's my choice, but why should I pay more when I'll be watching from my couch. As you say there should be a blanket fee for all seats until we're allowed back into Ibrox. If it helps the club take the full amount now but discount next season's ticket.

I feel for the Bar72 guys as well. We're effectively hitting them with a huge increase knowing they won't be able to attend a match anytime soon
 

RoboProd

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@Greg Marshall - can we get assurance that those who apply for the refund wont be penalised in some of the ways suggested here (reduction of MyGers points, looked at less favourably in ballot etc)? Appreciate this is a tricky position.
 

Crouchy

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@Greg Marshall - can we get assurance that those who apply for the refund wont be penalised in some of the ways suggested here (reduction of MyGers points, looked at less favourably in ballot etc)? Appreciate this is a tricky position.
You’re being awfully generous/favourable here.

It’s not a tricky situation - doing anything remotely like that to fans is absolutely shocking practice.

I doubt Rangers will do that, tbh. It would be a serious own goal.
 

RoboProd

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You’re being awfully generous/favourable here.

It’s not a tricky situation - doing anything remotely like that to fans is absolutely shocking practice.

I doubt Rangers will do that, tbh. It would be a serious own goal.
Meant more a tricky situation for Greg to look into that rather than the club, I totally agree it would be out of order. I didn’t even consider it as a possibility on first glance then after reading a few suggestions I was thinking it over.
 

RoboProd

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Those preaching about not taking the refund remind me of militant vegans spouting about their perceived moral obligation to anyone who’ll listen.

I can see the arguments both sides and think the overall takeaway is that people should make a decision that sits right with them whatever that may be.
 

Shengus Malengus

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It seems incredible that we criticise the fans who are at the bottom of this professional football cycle, whilst others expect to be untouched by this situation. Fans queueing up to have a pop at each other. Sickening, zero solidarity.
Solidarity? It’s fucking Rangers we’re talking about here, not the rage against Nippy’s natzi’s or Lawell’s poodles.
If I was inclined to practice solidarity it would be with Rangers and not fans who crave rebates that don’t need them.
 

Shengus Malengus

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People who are saying someone requesting a refund of 100 quid is costing us our title chances need reminded that Brandon Barker is on 10k a week.
No, they are not suggesting “someone” taking £100 would affect title chances, 40,000 people taking 100 quid certainly would.
 

pork chop

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But arguably anyone applying could only get 75% MyGers points for last season season ticket which may impact the allocation in a similar way.
It wouldn't work. Season tickets have a very wide price range but are worth the same points. Even with a refund some would still be paying more then others I guess
 

cooprfc

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@Greg Marshall - can we get assurance that those who apply for the refund wont be penalised in some of the ways suggested here (reduction of MyGers points, looked at less favourably in ballot etc)? Appreciate this is a tricky position.
Theres a solid argument for people to not get as many MyGers points credited mate. I'm not saying I agree with it.

Flip it round and look at it as a reward rather than a "punishment"- don't you think someone who paid 100% of last year's ticket deserves to be rewarded a little more than someone who paid 75%? Especially since MyGers is based, in the first instance, on ticket purchases.
 

cooprfc

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It wouldn't work. Season tickets have a very wide price range but are worth the same points. Even with a refund some would still be paying more then others I guess
This is a fair point. But MyGers doesn't account for dearer season tickets. Just if you buy one.

As I said in the post above this one, look at it as a reward for those who leave their money in rather than as a punishment for those who take their money out (which I fully support if they need it btw) and there is logic behind it.
 

ibroxbound

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No, they are not suggesting “someone” taking £100 would affect title chances, 40,000 people taking 100 quid certainly would.
There are now some fans suggesting that there should be an all round standard on season ticket prices until we are allowed back in Ibrox.
That would entail a discount on the following seasons ticket price.
What are your thoughts on this?
 

Blue Willie

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I'm sure the bottlers in the Rangers squad will be happy to read this thread as there no chance they will be losing any of their wages and will be looking at upgrading the Lamborghini's etc for being average players but we are quick to condemn any fan that ask's for help/ refund during a Pandemic. I have been on the forum since 2004 and never put anyone on ignore list until this thread/post. :mad:
 

RFC_Champions

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For years we couldn’t buy strips (or atleast the club hardly made a penny from it) and most fans were asking “how can I give the club some money”

Well this is your chance....

Leave your money with the club (if you can) and we might be looking at more signings like Hagi and beyond. If not, then it might be more players like Barker.
Stewart Robertson practically said as much in his interview.
 

cooprfc

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I'm sure the bottlers in the Rangers squad will be happy to read this thread as there no chance they will be losing any of their wages and will be looking at upgrading the Lamborghini's etc for being average players but we are quick to condemn any fan that ask's for help/ refund during a Pandemic. I have been on the forum since 2004 and never put anyone on ignore list until this thread/post. :mad:
We must be the only club in world football who constantly moan about our employees getting paid.
 

Blue Willie

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We must be the only club in world football who constantly moan about our employees getting paid.
Have they won any Trophies yet? Have they chucked away 2 league title bids after the winter break? Wouldn't have a problem with the Players wage's if they won trophies but they haven't.
 

cooprfc

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Have they won any Trophies yet? Have they chucked away 2 league title bids after the winter break? Wouldn't have a problem with the Players wage's if they won trophies but they haven't.
None of that is relevant to a contract they signed mate. They are not the villians in all this. It's not even as if several clubs have renegotiated their players contracts and we haven't.

The players/management getting wages seems to be a real bone of contention on here since the division 3 days.
 

Blue Willie

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None of that is relevant to a contract they signed mate. They are not the villians in all this. It's not even as if several clubs have renegotiated their players contracts and we haven't.

The players/management getting wages seems to be a real bone of contention on here since the division 3 days.
I see where your coming from mate but i suppose that's for another thread.
 

Shengus Malengus

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There are now some fans suggesting that there should be an all round standard on season ticket prices until we are allowed back in Ibrox.
That would entail a discount on the following seasons ticket price.
What are your thoughts on this?
Again, I’m not keen on taking money from Rangers.
That’s only my opinion.
Unlike last season, I knew exactly what I signed up for this season.
 

Greg Marshall

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@Greg Marshall - can we get assurance that those who apply for the refund wont be penalised in some of the ways suggested here (reduction of MyGers points, looked at less favourably in ballot etc)? Appreciate this is a tricky position.
At no point in the discussions on it was any such punishment ever thought of or spoken about.

The intention is that if a fan needs the money they can get it back. Selfishly the fan in me wants as few refunds as possible so that we can spend that money on the first team but to be clear it will not affect your status. Nor will the £25 voucher if fans choose to go down that route instead of a refund.
 

Virgil Hilts

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Irrelevant, really
I’ve got a gym membership that I don’t make use of.

IF Ithe owners of the gym are considering applications for refunds during the 3 months (+) that it will be closed, should I be excluded from the refund initiative because I’m not making use of the services offered by the gym that I’ve paid for?

Apologies if You ve misunderstood the crux of your response to Delboy.
 

tumsheeheed

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Anyone who wants a refund should get it regardless of there circumstances it’s the right thing to do from the club I’m lucky to be able to purchase my season ticket my Gers etc but others are less fortunate and I would never judge anybody for asking for a refund or a voucher .
 

GazzaG

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At no point in the discussions on it was any such punishment ever thought of or spoken about.

The intention is that if a fan needs the money they can get it back. Selfishly the fan in me wants as few refunds as possible so that we can spend that money on the first team but to be clear it will not affect your status. Nor will the £25 voucher if fans choose to go down that route instead of a refund.
It's not selfish at all Greg.
I have been one of those wanting the club to offer refunds while not wishing to have one myself.

If there's little uptake on the offer, then we can take that as a positive for the club financially but it also says that our fans are generally doing alright.
 

Bluenose1979

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None of that is relevant to a contract they signed mate. They are not the villians in all this. It's not even as if several clubs have renegotiated their players contracts and we haven't.

The players/management getting wages seems to be a real bone of contention on here since the division 3 days.
You're ultimately correct, it's not the players' fault nor responsibility to take wage cuts here.

However, I think in the context of a debate where people taking a refund for STs that were not fulfilled are being accused of costing the team a chance at silverware, you can understand the point some are making on that.

Fans who have actively being putting significant money in relative terms INTO the club for years, even decades, being vilified and chastised for the "unforgiveable" act of taking (again relatively) paltry amounts back which they are entitled to. While the players who are being paid much more significant sums OUT of the club's bank balance and have delivered no silverware, while those fans ploughed their hard-earned cash in at 100%, are not factoring into the same arguments.
 

Shengus Malengus

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You're ultimately correct, it's not the players' fault nor responsibility to take wage cuts here.

However, I think in the context of a debate where people taking a refund for STs that were not fulfilled are being accused of costing the team a chance at silverware, you can understand the point some are making on that.

Fans who have actively being putting significant money in relative terms INTO the club for years, even decades, being vilified and chastised for the "unforgiveable" act of taking (again relatively) paltry amounts back which they are entitled to. While the players who are being paid much more significant sums OUT of the club's bank balance and have delivered no silverware, while those fans ploughed their hard-earned cash in at 100%, are not factoring into the same arguments.
Thanks for the quote, not so much your version of it though.

I've been banging the drum throughout the thread that I'm only referring to folk that can afford to leave their cash in, but choose not to.

Tight arses in other words and I make no apology for that label.
 

MCMLXXXI

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You're ultimately correct, it's not the players' fault nor responsibility to take wage cuts here.

However, I think in the context of a debate where people taking a refund for STs that were not fulfilled are being accused of costing the team a chance at silverware, you can understand the point some are making on that.

Fans who have actively being putting significant money in relative terms INTO the club for years, even decades, being vilified and chastised for the "unforgiveable" act of taking (again relatively) paltry amounts back which they are entitled to. While the players who are being paid much more significant sums OUT of the club's bank balance and have delivered no silverware, while those fans ploughed their hard-earned cash in at 100%, are not factoring into the same arguments.
100% correct regarding the players wages however I do think it would've been the right thing to do to take a cut (not a deferral) under the circumstances. Not just us but other clubs as well.

The Club say they need the money & posters on here say we need to do our bit to bring in as much revenue as possible to compete by not taking a refund if you don't need it which is also true but it works both ways.

The fact they haven't doesn't really sit well with me.
 
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