SPFL board issue press release on possible Covid 19 contingency measures

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The SPFL board has written to all 42 clubs asking their views on possible contingency measures to deal with any further disruption caused by Covid-19.

The questionnaire is designed to assist the recommendation of a possible resolution to member clubs, which would give the board authority to deal with any further Covid-19 related disruption to the current season.

A previous ‘board powers’ resolution was rejected in July 2020, but several clubs who voted against the resolution have now indicated that they have changed their position.

SPFL Chief Executive Neil Doncaster said: “When the SPFL Rules were drawn up many years ago, no-one could have foreseen the impact which Covid-19 would have on our game.

“The fact that our rules did not expressly cover the situation where a season must be curtailed with a number of matches remaining to be played, caused a great deal of uncertainty and delay in reaching a resolution last Season. No-one wants to see that repeated.

“Many of our clubs support the principle of drawing up a set of protocols long before we get to the situation where league positions understandably influence the individual approach of clubs to these difficult situations. However, the proposal to allow the board a clearly specified and limited degree of authority to take action if we are unable to complete the season did not have sufficient support in the summer.

“Given the ongoing challenges caused to sport worldwide by Covid-19, several clubs have now indicated they have changed their position. The board wishes to establish if a sufficient number of clubs now wish to revisit this issue, so we can significantly reduce the uncertainty and division that arose towards the end of last season.

“Those circumstances were caused by the need to curtail the season, make promotions and relegations and cancel the play-offs, all in a written resolution. As we know, this effectively meant asking members to vote for the relegation of their club and other clubs in circumstances where the season could not be completed, with all the issues this prompted. If there is sufficient support to secure an amendment to the SPFL Rules, then all clubs will know well in advance of any need to curtail the season what the outcome will be – so far as concerns league positions, promotion, relegation, play-offs, fees and qualification for UEFA competitions.

“The questionnaire is designed to assist the Board in recommending a resolution to member clubs as a means of giving the SPFL Board the express power to deal with any further Covid-19 related disruption to Season 2020/21.”
 
Just come up with a set of rules for clubs to vote on now before any league position is near decided.

If X amount of games are played then the season is called, if the government shuts us down for X amount of weeks then clubs need X amount of weeks to get back into shape, as many games as possible in the fixture list will be played and league called on last day of season etc.

The SPFL board just want to be able to pick and choose what to do depending on how the league table looks at the time.
 
rangeral said:
The SPFL board has written to all 42 clubs asking their views on possible contingency measures to deal with any further disruption caused by Covid-19.

The questionnaire is designed to assist the recommendation of a possible resolution to member clubs, which would give the board authority to deal with any further Covid-19 related disruption to the current season.

A previous ‘board powers’ resolution was rejected in July 2020, but several clubs who voted against the resolution have now indicated that they have changed their position.

SPFL Chief Executive Neil Doncaster said: “When the SPFL Rules were drawn up many years ago, no-one could have foreseen the impact which Covid-19 would have on our game.

“The fact that our rules did not expressly cover the situation where a season must be curtailed with a number of matches remaining to be played, caused a great deal of uncertainty and delay in reaching a resolution last Season. No-one wants to see that repeated.

“Many of our clubs support the principle of drawing up a set of protocols long before we get to the situation where league positions understandably influence the individual approach of clubs to these difficult situations. However, the proposal to allow the board a clearly specified and limited degree of authority to take action if we are unable to complete the season did not have sufficient support in the summer.

“Given the ongoing challenges caused to sport worldwide by Covid-19, several clubs have now indicated they have changed their position. The board wishes to establish if a sufficient number of clubs now wish to revisit this issue, so we can significantly reduce the uncertainty and division that arose towards the end of last season.

“Those circumstances were caused by the need to curtail the season, make promotions and relegations and cancel the play-offs, all in a written resolution. As we know, this effectively meant asking members to vote for the relegation of their club and other clubs in circumstances where the season could not be completed, with all the issues this prompted. If there is sufficient support to secure an amendment to the SPFL Rules, then all clubs will know well in advance of any need to curtail the season what the outcome will be – so far as concerns league positions, promotion, relegation, play-offs, fees and qualification for UEFA competitions.

“The questionnaire is designed to assist the Board in recommending a resolution to member clubs as a means of giving the SPFL Board the express power to deal with any further Covid-19 related disruption to Season 2020/21.”
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"However, the proposal to allow the board a clearly specified and limited degree of authority to take action if we are unable to complete the season did not have sufficient support in the summer."

Was not made clear at the time.... they arrogantly thought they'd achieve it without the disclaimer/limit set, or the "party line" email to the mhedia got stuck in junk folders again
 
I am not for awarding titles without all games being played, not even in a situation where we are leading.

Why can't SPFL rules simply say there will be no winners, no relegation but in top division the position of teams at time of curtailment shall determine European places.
 
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barrheadbear said:
I am not for awarding titles without all games being played, not even in a situation where we are leading.

Why can't SPFL rules simply say there will be no winners, no relegation but in top division the position in of teams at time of curtailment shall determine European places.
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Common sense? It'll never catch on at the SPFL.
 
I have said it many times. a shorted season of 22 games or complete the lot. ESPECIALLY when rangers have away games against the better teams in the 3rd round. how can that be fair.
 
barrheadbear said:
I am not for awarding titles without all games being played, not even in a situation where we are leading.

Why can't SPFL rules simply say there will be no winners, no relegation but in top division the position in of teams at time of curtailment shall determine European places.
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Neither am I - but a precedent has been set. So IF the league is curtailed again with us sitting at the top and we DON'T get awarded the title, then there will be a riot.
 
chilebear said:
"Given the ongoing challenges caused to sport worldwide by Covid-19"

Sport is continuing withour your fucking corrupt ideas
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Leagues around the world were able to finish their 19/20 campaigns without issue.

Scotland on the other hand scrapped theirs and prioritised a domestic cup due to one clubs greed.

Him and his masters are the main threat to the continuation and integrity of Scottish football, not covid.
 
rangeral said:
The SPFL board has written to all 42 clubs asking their views on possible contingency measures to deal with any further disruption caused by Covid-19.

The questionnaire is designed to assist the recommendation of a possible resolution to member clubs, which would give the board authority to deal with any further Covid-19 related disruption to the current season.

A previous ‘board powers’ resolution was rejected in July 2020, but several clubs who voted against the resolution have now indicated that they have changed their position.

SPFL Chief Executive Neil Doncaster said: “When the SPFL Rules were drawn up many years ago, no-one could have foreseen the impact which Covid-19 would have on our game.

“The fact that our rules did not expressly cover the situation where a season must be curtailed with a number of matches remaining to be played, caused a great deal of uncertainty and delay in reaching a resolution last Season. No-one wants to see that repeated.

“Many of our clubs support the principle of drawing up a set of protocols long before we get to the situation where league positions understandably influence the individual approach of clubs to these difficult situations. However, the proposal to allow the board a clearly specified and limited degree of authority to take action if we are unable to complete the season did not have sufficient support in the summer.

“Given the ongoing challenges caused to sport worldwide by Covid-19, several clubs have now indicated they have changed their position. The board wishes to establish if a sufficient number of clubs now wish to revisit this issue, so we can significantly reduce the uncertainty and division that arose towards the end of last season.

“Those circumstances were caused by the need to curtail the season, make promotions and relegations and cancel the play-offs, all in a written resolution. As we know, this effectively meant asking members to vote for the relegation of their club and other clubs in circumstances where the season could not be completed, with all the issues this prompted. If there is sufficient support to secure an amendment to the SPFL Rules, then all clubs will know well in advance of any need to curtail the season what the outcome will be – so far as concerns league positions, promotion, relegation, play-offs, fees and qualification for UEFA competitions.

“The questionnaire is designed to assist the Board in recommending a resolution to member clubs as a means of giving the SPFL Board the express power to deal with any further Covid-19 related disruption to Season 2020/21.”
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pile of shit , they want it to appear its asking every club for input but they already know what they want , i'll give you an example when setting up " MyGers " it was said by many ( and everyone in the meeting before the Braga game ) in the Travel club to keep it separate from any new membership as fans had built up years in points costing thousands of £££'s and it was totally disregarded
 
barrheadbear said:
I am not for awarding titles without all games being played, not even in a situation where we are leading.

Why can't SPFL rules simply say there will be no winners, no relegation but in top division the position of teams at time of curtailment shall determine European places.
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They can’t say their will be no winners for two reasons - precedent was set last year being one and the other being it might impact their desire for a team playing in green and grey to obtain their “10 in a row*”

* title 9 was awarded to them before all games were played.
 
They had no remit in the first instance despite the botched UEFA guidelines .

Those bastards lied as the cat was out the bag regarding their intentions then the voting fiasco of which they instigated & meddled in leaves them in an untenable position despite what their paid for inquiry told us .

I hope Rangers get right in about these Bastards it was & never has been about the greater good of Scottish Football with these patsy Bastards.
 
Here is the questionnaire.

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Summary of the questions.

1. Clubs recently rejected a resolution that would have given the SPFL broad powers to manage Covid related disruption to the League programme this season. Would you now support such a resolution if it were brought back to clubs?

2. Would you give the SPFL board the Power to award 0-3 result against any team unable to play a fixture due to Covid?

3. Is it too early to take binding decisions on Covid?

4. How many fixtures do you believe need to be completed for a season to be "valid"?

5. Would you give the SPFL board the power to call the season?

6. Would you give the SPFL board the power to void the season?
 
Q4 valid number of games for a season is ridiculous and loaded. Does it mean that if 30 games are completed but everyone said 22 are valid (each home and away) we go back to positions at 22 or do we invent a rule for 30 (if Celtic are ahead on 30 but not on 22 of course). Or does it mean if less than the minimum is complete then the season is void which is exactly opposite to last years precedent. Or if everyone says 38 is the min and there are issues then they can void it at any time and if so based on what - number of cancellations or what?

Usual fekkin shambles designed for maximum opportunity to award the scum. Just play out the season and if you have to play a game every day for a week or have a mini tournament then do it.

Why is Scotland the only country looking for a way to finish the league earlier than agreed and we are only 1/4 way through the season?
 
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barrheadbear said:
I am not for awarding titles without all games being played, not even in a situation where we are leading.

Why can't SPFL rules simply say there will be no winners, no relegation but in top division the position of teams at time of curtailment shall determine European places.
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That ship sailed

We are top when its called, we champs, end of
 
The league will be finished this season I'm sure of that. Teams, especially in top flight football are more aware now of how to protect themselves from covid. It's not foolproof but there's no need for another two/three month sabatical and the country is as ravished now with covid as it was in March.

International football of course risks everything and should be cancelled which would also have the benefit of freeing up fixture space on the calendar. But won't happen as UEFA/FIFA are more corrupt than the sfa/spfl.
 
Gibraltar Loyal said:
Added in last Saturday at 1415
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No coincidence that the meeting to discuss this was scheduled for the Monday after the first Old Firm game of the season.

Waiting on the outcome of that game to assess how to structure their proposals.

A win for the bheasts would undoubtedly have seen a different set of questions/proposals.

Posted on a thread some time ago that us being ahead at this stage will, in the event of the season being curtailed, see them go for the "not enough games completed" option to avoid awarding the title and questions 4 and 6 are, to my mind, confirmation that that is their plan.

They are not to be trusted, particularly with us having no representation on the board this year, so it is imperative we keep winning and remain ahead right to the end - whenever that may be.

You do have to admire the absolute sleeketness of their plan though - clubs who would not vote for it initially for fear of relegation and becoming this years Hearts/Partick may now see the minimum number of games required to validate a season as a way of escaping the risk of relegation and, therefore, vote for it.

Sneaky, but predictable, b'stards.
 
EndOfDays said:
Summary of the questions.

1. Clubs recently rejected a resolution that would have given the SPFL broad powers to manage Covid related disruption to the League programme this season. Would you now support such a resolution if it were brought back to clubs?

2. Would you give the SPFL board the Power to award 0-3 result against any team unable to play a fixture due to Covid?

3. Is it too early to take binding decisions on Covid?

4. How many fixtures do you believe need to be completed for a season to be "valid"?

5. Would you give the SPFL board the power to call the season?

6. Would you give the SPFL board the power to void the season?
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i think we can guess when and how they'd use these scenarios.
 
1288Bear said:
No coincidence that the meeting to discuss this was scheduled for the Monday after the first Old Firm game of the season.

Waiting on the outcome of that game to assess how to structure their proposals.

A win for the bheasts would undoubtedly have seen a different set of questions/proposals.

Posted on a thread some time ago that us being ahead at this stage will, in the event of the season being curtailed, see them go for the "not enough games completed" option to avoid awarding the title and questions 4 and 6 are, to my mind, confirmation that that is their plan.

They are not to be trusted, particularly with us having no representation on the board this year, so it is imperative we keep winning and remain ahead right to the end - whenever that may be.

You do have to admire the absolute sleeketness of their plan though - clubs who would not vote for it initially for fear of relegation and becoming this years Hearts/Partick may now see the minimum number of games required to validate a season as a way of escaping the risk of relegation and, therefore, vote for it.

Sneaky, but predictable, b'stards.
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Rules ahould have been made prior to start of season not 1/4 of way in.
Its alos like them wanting to sanction clubs now that break covid protocols after the sheep and scum got a slap on the wrist. Cant change it during a season.
I hopentjat clubs stand strong against these charlatans.
 
Gibraltar Loyal said:
Rules ahould have been made prior to start of season not 1/4 of way in.
Its alos like them wanting to sanction clubs now that break covid protocols after the sheep and scum got a slap on the wrist. Cant change it during a season.
I hopentjat clubs stand strong against these charlatans.
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Correct - the problem they had at the start of the season was that they didn't want to be specific with the rules. They simply wanted the clubs to give them the power to decide and to trust them to make the right decision. In the end nobody trusted them.

Changing the disciplinary rules mid season, after having set a precedence with their lenient punishments for other clubs, is clearly designed to allow them to apply stricter sanctions to clubs in future.

In all probability all clubs will, at some point, be affected. We have, as yet, escaped but are unlikely to go the entire season without having an issue. They will be hoping they can force us to forfeit games. This is where our strength of squad becomes vital much like it did all those years ago when we were forced to play Hibs with half a team.

We keep winning then there is very little they can do other than hope to void the season.
 
I wouldn't give the SPFL power to organise a farting competition.

The last question there is a beezer. No thought of voiding it last year. They must think we are as stupid as they are.

There might be merit in having some rules to cope with a shortened season again but they would need to made clear and be made by the clubs now. Absolutely under no circumstances should it be left to the SPFL to make it up as they go along. Neither should they be able to call the season without a vote from the clubs.
 
barrheadbear said:
I am not for awarding titles without all games being played, not even in a situation where we are leading.

Why can't SPFL rules simply say there will be no winners, no relegation but in top division the position of teams at time of curtailment shall determine European places.
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We all know it doesn’t matter what they do - they will %^*& it up
 
wsb&warmy said:
Neither am I - but a precedent has been set. So IF the league is curtailed again with us sitting at the top and we DON'T get awarded the title, then there will be a riot.
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The thing is there was no need to curtail last season. This was done purely to the situation in the EPL, where Liverpool, who had a significanly bigger lead than Celtc, were making noises that they would not accept a title that had not been won.
This caused the the 19th Century Terrorist cabal to panic, and call the season prematurely, to avoid a situation where Celtc would also have to do the same. The decision that was taken after the corrupt vote cost the SPFL more than £10m in sponsorship money, which impacts Scottish football for the next 5 years. There is no way that the clubs will give them the power to make a similar decision arbitrarily.
They also refused to consider a motion by Rangers which would have prevented this loss happening unnecessarily. Every Scottish club lost money because of this nonsensical decision, even the one it was intended to benefit
Utterly incompetent, or totally corrupt.
There should be no circumstances in which the season can be called early, if football has to be curtailed, just wait until it can continue. Simples.
 
Tim Hunter said:
The thing is there was no need to curtail last season. This was done purely to the situation in the EPL, where Liverpool, who had a significanly bigger lead than Celtc, were making noises that they would not accept a title that had not been won.
This caused the the 19th Century Terrorist cabal to panic, and call the season prematurely, to avoid a situation where Celtc would also have to do the same. The decision that was taken after the corrupt vote cost the SPFL more than £10m in sponsorship money, which impacts Scottish football for the next 5 years. There is no way that the clubs will give them the power to make a similar decision arbitrarily.
They also refused to consider a motion by Rangers which would have prevented this loss happening unnecessarily. Every Scottish club lost money because of this nonsensical decision, even the one it was intended to benefit
Utterly incompetent, or totally corrupt.
There should be no circumstances in which the season can be called early, if football has to be curtailed, just wait until it can continue. Simples.
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Correct on all fronts. I wholeheartedly agree.
 
If they drop more points over the next few weeks then this is the start of " null and void"campaign. The scum will stay silent and others will do their bidding.
If we're top of the league what will our board do? Agree with null and void or change our track?
I see a stitch up coming if we stay top of the league.
 
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EndOfDays said:
Summary of the questions.

1. Clubs recently rejected a resolution that would have given the SPFL broad powers to manage Covid related disruption to the League programme this season. Would you now support such a resolution if it were brought back to clubs?

2. Would you give the SPFL board the Power to award 0-3 result against any team unable to play a fixture due to Covid?

3. Is it too early to take binding decisions on Covid?

4. How many fixtures do you believe need to be completed for a season to be "valid"?

5. Would you give the SPFL board the power to call the season?

6. Would you give the SPFL board the power to void the season?
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Every question there is a can of worms which which opens the door for further corruption.

How broad are broad powers? Would SPFL decide whether a club is unable to play or not?

Surely to God no Club will touch this with a barge pole. Unless good old robust discussions occur.
 
I suspect if Rangers are in the lead the season will be voided. Hertz, if they're top of their division will stay down.
 
barrheadbear said:
I am not for awarding titles without all games being played, not even in a situation where we are leading.

Why can't SPFL rules simply say there will be no winners, no relegation but in top division the position of teams at time of curtailment shall determine European places.
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That would have been my opinion but not now.

there’s no way Celtic can be awarded a title one year and the season is cancelled the next year when they are not top of the league,

For better or worse the precident is set; average points used to calculate champions and relegations.
 
It’ll likely affect teams like Hamilton/St Mirren/Ross County just as much as it will Rangers/Celtic

Surely no teams going to vote for something that’ll give the league the power to potentially relegate them without playing the season out.

Everything points to nul and void being the preferred option however didn’t they claim they couldn’t do that for contractual/legal reasons?
 
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