SPFL happy to go public

From BBC Scotland website

Welcoming the outcome, Doncaster said the SPFL would be happy for the legal proceedings to be made public.

"We would have no issue with that whatsoever," he told BBC Scotland.

"The advice that we've received is that they are confidential and the only way that could come into the public domain would be for all the parties to agree to make it available."


So Mr Doncaster, publish the findings please. Or are you saying Hearts and Thistle want it kept private?
Fat chance of that, we still haven't seen the report of the "forensic" investigation by Deloitte or has the members of the members' SPFL seen the report but nobody has leaked it because it has "confidential" stamped on the front cover ( up ) ?
 
We don’t know what Hearts have tried to do as it was all private and to be honest I couldn’t care less about them or Thistle.

Our board were issuing statements that made it look like we had evidence that the SPFL were corrupt and issued a dossier to try and back up our claims.

Why go to all that bother and then do nothing just because Hearts failed.

Why haven’t we demanded answers as to why the SFA wrote to UEFA before the vote took place?

Why have we not demanded answers as to why Mulraney was calling clubs and putting pressure on them?

Have we received a copy of the Deloitte internal review?

We should be demanding answers to every question that was in our dossier but it looks to me we fell at the first hurdle and have now backed off.

We now look weak.
In one of Doncaster's statements he admitted that some things had gone wrong. Why are we not demanding that he explain what went wrong and how the members' organisation will put it right ?
 
That speccy buffoon gets £380 k per year , the prime minister and the first minister dint get paid anywhere near that for running the countries- let that sink in !!!!!!

Buffoonery pays dividends in spades
 
In one of Doncaster's statements he admitted that some things had gone wrong. Why are we not demanding that he explain what went wrong and how the members' organisation will put it right ?

We are weak and all talk/statements, that’s why we haven’t demanded an explanation when we should have.

We appear to have left the fight up to wummin from Edinburgh and the cuddly toy of Scottish football and sat back.
 
From BBC Scotland website

Welcoming the outcome, Doncaster said the SPFL would be happy for the legal proceedings to be made public.

"We would have no issue with that whatsoever," he told BBC Scotland.

"The advice that we've received is that they are confidential and the only way that could come into the public domain would be for all the parties to agree to make it available."


So Mr Doncaster, publish the findings please. Or are you saying Hearts and Thistle want it kept private?

Hearts should then release a statement asking for this to go ahead.
 
Very noticeable that BBC Shortbread gave the smug slug an easy passage, considering they Had Tom Irish live earlier on the show. Dungcaster setting the script perhaps or Radio Shortbread trying not to rock the boat by letting SPFL Critic in chief, Tom, loose on Doncaster?
 
He is current placeman for the Earl Haigs, the Earls are twisted and as corrupt as a Narcos boss, this is what they do, they cannot be trusted, they ruin everything.
 
He is untouchable.
Too many hate Rangers more than they care that Scottish football needs fixed.
They had a chance, at our expense, to have the inquiry and begin fixing the issues.
The clubs chose not to and they are complicit by supporting Doncaster et al.
Incredibly, since then, plenty have said we were correct.
We should call for another one.now all clubs have their money and places decided.
 
I switched on after the game and he was on ,giving it the usual pish ,SPFL is the clubs ,employees are selected by the clubs yadda yadda ,he has now overtaken Jim White in the sanctimonious department

he’s lied to clubs ,he’s lied to media and he’s still there ,of course he’s untouchable
the clubs can change that
unfortunately too many have something to hide.
 
From Worldsoccertalk.
They make a good point that we are the first major league to kick off after CoVid yet they failed to get a broadcaster in the USA.

Despite many of the Scottish clubs having a diehard base of supporters in the United States, the fact that the Scottish Premiership was unable to lock in a deal prior to the new season is testament to the disorganization of the SPFL itself. It’s been one mistake after another in the way that the league is marketed internationally.

Today’s news is another example of a missed opportunity at a time when the Scottish league is in the position of being the first major European league to return to action for the 2020/21 season. At this rate, it won’t be major for much longer if it can be considered major at all.
 
I would like him to make public all avenues and options explored in:
- getting a sponsor for the league
- getting the best possible tv deal
- selling our rights abroad
- finishing the previous season

You are absolutely right.
 
From Worldsoccertalk.
They make a good point that we are the first major league to kick off after CoVid yet they failed to get a broadcaster in the USA.

Despite many of the Scottish clubs having a diehard base of supporters in the United States, the fact that the Scottish Premiership was unable to lock in a deal prior to the new season is testament to the disorganization of the SPFL itself. It’s been one mistake after another in the way that the league is marketed internationally.

Today’s news is another example of a missed opportunity at a time when the Scottish league is in the position of being the first major European league to return to action for the 2020/21 season. At this rate, it won’t be major for much longer if it can be considered major at all.
It’s an absolute disgrace the way our game is marketed thanks to the clowns in charge ,We have the biggest marketable fixture in football outside of the big 5 leagues and even then it rivals most of the top fixtures there ,To rub it in the chief clown gets the highest salary outside the big 5 leagues ,For doing what exactly ,is he doing the job he’s paid for or is he paid for the job that many of us suspect he’s paid for ,looking after one particular clubs best interests
 
The problem is, the communications between the cabal would have likely been done verbally. Or, in the instances where incriminating written communication was involved, there is no way the cabal would have supplied it to the arbitration panel.

Unless they are lawfully and forcefully investigated then it is unlikely the full story will come to light. Not sure if this is even a viable option, nor is it likely now the club will stand up and try and take it any further. So unless any bears have contacts with any freelancer or dark web hackers then it looks like they have gotten away with it.
 
It’s an absolute disgrace the way our game is marketed thanks to the clowns in charge ,We have the biggest marketable fixture in football outside of the big 5 leagues and even then it rivals most of the top fixtures there ,To rub it in the chief clown gets the highest salary outside the big 5 leagues ,For doing what exactly ,is he doing the job he’s paid for or is he paid for the job that many of us suspect he’s paid for ,looking after one particular clubs best interests
Exactly

Having a positive impact on Scottish football is an irrelevance to the SPFL cabal as long as Celtic are being looked after and have a chance of Champions league money every year
 
How does his role work?

Does he just stay indefinitely or until every club votes to remove him ?

Could easily keep a few clubs sweet and he could never be voted out of position ?
 
Doncaster is a proven failure and would have been punted long ago in any other business. Only Tom English and Ewan Murray have tried to hold this scumbag to account, while he's been given a free pass by the rest of the Scottish media.
 
Exactly

Having a positive impact on Scottish football is an irrelevance to the SPFL cabal as long as Celtic are being looked after and have a chance of Champions league money every year
mentally challengeds don’t like a fair fight ,they need to odds stacked in their favour ,have a weak league easier to win then qualify for the cash ,then moan about weak competition when they get pumped in Europe
 
The problem is, the communications between the cabal would have likely been done verbally. Or, in the instances where incriminating written communication was involved, there is no way the cabal would have supplied it to the arbitration panel.

Unless they are lawfully and forcefully investigated then it is unlikely the full story will come to light. Not sure if this is even a viable option, nor is it likely now the club will stand up and try and take it any further. So unless any bears have contacts with any freelancer or dark web hackers then it looks like they have gotten away with it.
Correct ,anything done in “robust” conversations especially in the lockdown situation would have been verbally over the phone with no witnesses to corroborate,the only thing that could ever have been dug up would have been that telephone conversations happened between 2 individual numbers (even the person making the call or receiving would be difficult to actually prove )the time of the call and the duration could be found but content impossible

At the very least after the WhatsApp leak it’s public knowledge that John Nelms can never be trusted ,he was a signed up member of the intention to vote “no” camp and seemed to have a passion for his reason ,All of a sudden he changed his mind ,and if we believe that the only thing that made him change his vote was the promise of reconstruction talks (reconstruction was never achievable) then we all deserve to be ruled by a corrupt system
 
From BBC Scotland website

Welcoming the outcome, Doncaster said the SPFL would be happy for the legal proceedings to be made public.

"We would have no issue with that whatsoever," he told BBC Scotland.

"The advice that we've received is that they are confidential and the only way that could come into the public domain would be for all the parties to agree to make it available."


So Mr Doncaster, publish the findings please. Or are you saying Hearts and Thistle want it kept private?

Bet the docs are redacted.
 
In the interests of openness and honesty perhaps the SPFL could start by releasing the contents of the Deloitte report and answering the questions.
Who commissioned it?
How much did it cost?
Who paid for it?
 
We don’t know what Hearts have tried to do as it was all private and to be honest I couldn’t care less about them or Thistle.

Our board were issuing statements that made it look like we had evidence that the SPFL were corrupt and issued a dossier to try and back up our claims.

Why go to all that bother and then do nothing just because Hearts failed.

Why haven’t we demanded answers as to why the SFA wrote to UEFA before the vote took place?

Why have we not demanded answers as to why Mulraney was calling clubs and putting pressure on them?

Have we received a copy of the Deloitte internal review?

We should be demanding answers to every question that was in our dossier but it looks to me we fell at the first hurdle and have now backed off.

We now look weak.

We look weak because we ARE weak.
Everybody is weak in comparison to the cabal. Lawwell never put his men in position just to throw up his hands and say "OK, it's a fair cop" at first time of asking.
Rangers, in my opinion, dreadfully underestimated on two factors : 1) the actual strength of the cabal's position and, 2) the complete indifference to the obvious corruption by the vast majority of clubs in all divisions.
A major part of the cabal's power rests in the Scottish media. Their influence is everywhere and shows itself every day but it would appear that our board completely (incredibly!!) underestimated the fact. The moment Rangers started talking big the media were already sitting waiting with their bylines designed to discredit whatever we had to say. Rather naively we walked straight into it. The press started smirking about "supposed smoking guns" and this became the narrative even though no-one from Rangers had used the term. But, the damage was done, everybody awaited the now much-quoted smoking gun.
So, basically having tried a frontal attack, it was in no way convincing to any onlookers, the cabal continued to smirk and swat us aside, and we ended up looking like complete duds.
However, I'm living in the hope that we are, in the background, working on ways and means to play the devious bastards at their own game. I think there are signs that people are starting to see the corruption for exactly what it is, and are seeing the damage that is being done to the game in this headlong pursuit of only looking after the interests of celtc alone.
In my experience within business and management, full frontal attacks on the establishment rarely succeed, but can expose the failings of, and sufficiently damage the reputation of, the establishment to an extent that subsequent, more measured attacks can win through.
It's all very frustrating for us (and, slowly but surely, fans of other clubs) but I for one believe things are underway behind the scenes.
Frankly, I have to believe it.
 

17.5 Confidentiality

17.5.1 Parties agree to keep confidential any information or documentation relating to proceedings arising under this Protocol which is not in the public domain (including but not limited to the identities of the Panel Members) and save where required by law. Parties should take reasonable steps to prevent unauthorised disclosure of such confidential information by any third Party involved in proceedings.

17.5.2 Notwithstanding the provisions of Paragraph 17.5.1, the Scottish FA and/or its officers may publicly disclose the following information:

17.5.2.1 Decisions and Determinations by Tribunals;

17.5.2.2 Issued reasons by Tribunals; and/or

17.5.2.3 Any information or documentation (including but not limited to the identities of the Panel Members) where the Scottish FA, in its sole discretion, considers the public disclosure of such information to be appropriate.

17.5.3 A Tribunal shall have the power to Determine that a Party is in breach of this Paragraph 17.5 and may impose such sanction in respect of such breach as is provided for in the Disciplinary Rules.17.6 Information and personal data

17.6.1 The Scottish FA is the data controller in respect of any personal data


Extract from the Judicial Panel Protocol.

If I'm reading this correctly the SFA can release any information it wishes. So far we have next to nothing. We have a decision, but no issued reasons on why the tribunal made the decision they did.

I think all football fans in Scotland deserve to be informed.
 
The arrogance of this bastard on radio yesterday was astounding. He thinks he is untouchable
He is, he's made scottish football a laughing stock. Stopped the season early when there was no need to, handed the title to a team still able to be caught and relegated others who could save themselves, we have no national league sponsor, we're finishing the national cup but ended the league. Teams paid off to go along with the wishes of 1 team, so called independent investigations. That man, after all that and more, is still in charge of scottish football. Untouchable.
 
From BBC Scotland website

Welcoming the outcome, Doncaster said the SPFL would be happy for the legal proceedings to be made public.

"We would have no issue with that whatsoever," he told BBC Scotland.

"The advice that we've received is that they are confidential and the only way that could come into the public domain would be for all the parties to agree to make it available."


So Mr Doncaster, publish the findings please. Or are you saying Hearts and Thistle want it kept private?
He is playing politics and i hope Hearts and Thistle call him out
 
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