It'sagoal
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It is impossible for teams to compete in Scotland against such one-sided refereeing.
SPL fouls to bookings ratios and Fairplay table - The stats laid out
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It is impossible for teams to compete in Scotland against such one-sided refereeing.
Blueranger45
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remembertheepoch
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In plain sight, we are being cheated, a new manager is not going to change thingsI know this one is of interest to quite a few on here so thought I’d provide a bit of a breakdown of average fouls per booking across the league along with a summary of the resultant fair play table.
Aberdeen - 3.8 fouls per yellow
Celtic - 9.6 fouls per yellow
Dundee - 4.9 fouls per yellow
Dundee Utd - 4.7 fouls per yellow
Hearts - 4.9 fouls per yellow
Hibs - 6.1 fouls per yellow
Kilmarnock - 6.2 fouls per yellow
Motherwell - 5.8 fouls per yellow
Rangers - 5.2 fouls per yellow
Ross County - 5.9 fouls per yellow
St Johnstone - 5.8 fouls per yellow
St Mirren - 5.7 fouls per yellow
The entire league essentially sits around the 4-6 fouls per yellow bracket as is the norm almost every season, whilst the filth sit way out on their own at almost 10 fouls per yellow as is also the norm almost every season. They are also the team that have committed the lowest fouls in the league by quite a bit.
Celtic are also the only club in the league not to have received a red card this season.
Scottish Premiership - Fair play table 24/25
This statistic shows the fair play table of the Scottish Premiership of the 24/25 season. Clubs are listed in order of points ascending.www.transfermarkt.co.uk
Looking at the SPFL fairplay table, there is less points separating the team sitting 2nd and 12th (20 points) than there is separating the teams sitting 1st and 2nd (23 points). No surprises to hear that it is Celtic that is a country mile ahead in 1st place in the fairplay table as is also the norm every season.
In Celtics last 4 home games they have committed 36 fouls and received 1 booking.
In stark contrast, Motherwell received 4 bookings for 6 fouls in the first half against them in their recent game. They ended the game with a yellow for every 2 fouls. When St Johnstone played them recently they had a yellow per foul. Hibs - one of the lesser booked teams in the league - got a yellow for every 3 fouls in their recent game against them.
Essentially Celtic get booked at a far slower rate than the rest of the league, and Celtics opponents often get booked at a higher rate (and often earlier) than what is normal across the league.
Every season these exact same patterns involving the same teams emerge. Are we genuinely to believe that one particular clubs conduct is that much better than every other club in the league to such a massive extent that there is less fairplay points between 2nd and bottom of the table than there is between them and the team nearest to them.
Yes we have major problems on the footballing front, but make no mistake that this particular pattern of assistance has a significant bearing on their games over the course of a season.
Game after game, season after season, they seem to get away with nullifying their opponents by committing constant cynical fouls with impunity, whilst their opponents are also often nullified with frequent and early bookings. That’s before we even get into the amount of blatant straight red cards and second yellows they seem to avoid.
Just came on to post this.
Yet again Celtics opposition booked in the first half and finish the game with a far worse fouls to booking ratio (2 fouls per yellow) than the league average (4-6 fouls per yellow).
Meanwhile they go yet another game without a single booking and also escape a potential red.
That should see them extend their lead even further in the fairplay table.
We see this constantly. A key member of our team will be booked around the 15-20 minute mark to absolutely nullify them.
It happens after the opponents have regularly have 3, 4 or 5 fouls with no penalty.
Blueranger45
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nobody in Scotland cares is the problem, I've mentioned stats on other forums featuring people who support other teams and all you get back is pictures of people with tinfoil on their head
but when that lot have something, they've got the media on their side and in most cases I find a non-supporting supporter of us or them will either ignore it or support them but when a Rangers fan gives evidence to support, they are ridiculed
but when that lot have something, they've got the media on their side and in most cases I find a non-supporting supporter of us or them will either ignore it or support them but when a Rangers fan gives evidence to support, they are ridiculed
longtallsally
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How do you check this?
Not even a yellow card - that's incredible
Would be interesting if someone had the time on their hands to look at fouls to bookings stats across the leagues in Europe. We've established their ~10 fouls per booking is anomalous in the UK; it wouldn't surprise me if it's anomalous across Europe - if not world football!“In Celtics last 4 home games they have committed 36 fouls and received 1 booking. In stark contrast, Motherwell received 4 bookings for 6 fouls in the first half against them in their recent game. They ended the game with a yellow for every 2 fouls. When St Johnstone played them recently they had a yellow per foul.”
That’s mind boggling.
That Celtic are being reffed to completely different standards is not subjective, that stats are clear to see in the OP. And the SFA and refs will be well aware of it too.
Even in England, teams are at a similar level to 11 of the 12 SPFL teams in terms of yellow cards to foul ratio.
Fouls Per Yellow Card Team Stats In Premiere League In Season 2024 2025 | StatMuse
Arsenal have 5.04 fouls committed per yellow card in the Premier League this season.www.statmuse.com
The question is, what can be done about it? This is where we and the other club directors should get together ( the ones that are not run by Timmy sympathisers ) and should be flagging it up to the SFA, and more importantly, the media. The penalty to Rangers narrative? Let’s start a truthful narrative that Celtic players don’t get booked for fouls, and let’s put the pressure on refs every time a Celtic player makes a foul.
RangersForever
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There's no doubt they are refereed to a different standard and I would hope someone is keeping a record with videos of all the decisions against us and for them, with dates so that we can look back in future and show what was happening.
I just wondered if the huge discrepancy for their fouls to yellow card ratio being so high over a number of years was partly because they often scored a few early to put the result out of sight and then could play the rest of the game at 60% capacity in terms of effort.
Rangers are the only other team in the league that should be on comparable figures to celtic but we have not been a great team for a long period of time and so we are having to give 100% for the full 90 minutes which will skew the figures against us. The 55 season would be the interesting one to compare our figures with celtic. I would expect the booking to yellow card ratio to be closer that season as celtic would be getting put under pressure more often that year, which leaves any further difference in figures down to the officials.
Having said all of the above, we have seen how McGregor, Johnstone, Carter-Vickers, Scales, Maeda regularly avoid deserved bookings so I would guess 90% of the discrepancy is down to dodgy decisions by dodgy officials.
Bear all
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So you don’t get a card either I remember Morelos getting booked for a handball after giving away a penalty,don’t tell me that awarding a penalty is deemed punishable enough.
It'sagoal
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I thought preventing a goal opportunity was a straight red. ? Or have the rules been changed again. ?
GazzaNumber8
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#patternsofassistance
This needs to be the new Penalty To Rangers counter attack- only ours has facts and figures backing it up.
This needs to be the new Penalty To Rangers counter attack- only ours has facts and figures backing it up.
rex555
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Would be pointless. You'd be preaching to the converted. The rest of the league hates us and we hate them for what they did to us so no great loss. They wouldn't give a toss, doesn't effect them either as they are never going to compete for the title too so stats like that are of no concern.
Preventing a goalscoring opportunity but attempting to play the ball should result in a penalty and a booking.
Preventing a goalscoring opportunity and not attempting to play the ball should result in a penalty and a sending off.
What Johnston done was without a doubt the latter.
Bear all
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Johnston yet again so why did he get off unpunished then he should receive a card of some sort .
H/T at Ibrox, she wanted to talk about Jefte's yellow.....then came out with a smart ass comment when Boyd brought up Johnston's non-booking....
Sky Sports is Celtic TV.
More than the block by the offside attacker - What about the dive? That should have been a free-kick and a yellow card.
This is a fucking disgrace from sky. Main league sponsor only interested in celtic winning and Rangers losing by any means.
-Clifford W74-
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They are just laughing at Boyd and us and there is nothing we can do about it.
tazzabear
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Could easily have been red.
Was definitely a foul.
Did some quick research, and maths. Celtic are the outlier in the whole of European football. The closest I could come to celtic's 9(approx) fouls per booking was PSG, and even then they were still getting bookings every 6.5(approx) fouls. There is nowhere in European football where an individual team gets refereed so leniently. Even Barca, and Real Madrid are getting booked at a normal rate.
Ridiculous stat. Be interesting to see if they are anywhere near the top worldwide.
QueensferryCR3Bear
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Is there a heatmap on who gets on a yellow first in their games and the times of their bookings?
That'll tell plenty too. Most of their yellow are after the game is decided.
That'll tell plenty too. Most of their yellow are after the game is decided.
It'sagoal
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Celtic's opposition are almost always first to be booked, usually in the first half, and more than one yellow card. This puts them on the backfoot for the rest of the game.
Madjid Moments
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That Celtic percentage will be closer to 10 now after their 5 fouls and 0 bookings today whilst Ross County had 6 fouls and 3 yellows.
Do you mean the filth penalty?
The ref gave it in real time and was looking straight at it.
Given what he witnessed to award the penalty, he clearly knew Johnston shoved the Ross County player in the back to stop him scoring and did not attempt to play the ball.
He then opted not to apply the rules by sending Johnston off.
Remember the red card Braga got against us in the run to the EL final. Very similar situation with their defender shoving the back of Roofe as he was about to pull the ball down and get in on goal.
In Scotland though the rules don’t seem to apply to Celtic.
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It'sagoal
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That gargoyle Johnson gets away with murder up here. In any other League, he'd have at least three red cards already this season.
This should be publicised through whatever channels are available to us as fans, and the club should be made aware of it, too.
Although it really is the job of the Club to be on top of this stuff and shouting it to the heavens - can you imagine the uproar if Rangers were on the right end of this "European-wide statistical anomaly", even once? Only last season they managed to get the "penalty to Rangers" soundbite Scotland-wide recognition (even included in a gag in the panto I attended in Edinburgh that year!), and we now find ourselves without a league penalty this season. Yet I'd be surprised if anyone outside Rangers fans are aware of the uniquely lenient refereeing Celtic receive - year after year after year.
Is this research based just on this current season or over multiple seasons around Europe?
Bear all
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But he should have booked him at least ,I thought VAR had awarded it.As someone pointed out if the player has tried to play the ball honestly it’s a yellow anything else it’s a red not receiving any punishment opens up the Johnston can’t get booked debate .
islalewis
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Engels grabbing with both hands and dragging the player to the ground.
Bear with a sore head
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The one that I tend to notice is that the opposition ball winning midfielder tends to get booked in the first half- it helps their midfield, which is not exactly filled with big, physical players to take control of the game- I think we saw that with Raskin in the New Year game.
It's subtle enough to fly under the radar and no-one bats an eyelid because its a player you would expect to get booked.
Todd The Prod
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It’s interesting. You could explain away those stats I’m sure but the thing that makes it absolutely obvious is the discrepancy between the Scottish and European matches.
It makes the cheating as clear as day.
It makes the cheating as clear as day.
Coza
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The biggest evidence of something being afoot is the 55 season.
They imploded. Lost loads of games. Trailed in the league by 20+ points. No crowds to skew statistics. Yet still top of the yellow/red card fair play table.
The truth for me is quite simple. Referees are terrified of their club/fans reaction and the media machine that follows behind that reaction. So terrified they ignore blatant red cards and don’t apply the correct offside rules like yesterday in what was effectively a bounce game.
They imploded. Lost loads of games. Trailed in the league by 20+ points. No crowds to skew statistics. Yet still top of the yellow/red card fair play table.
The truth for me is quite simple. Referees are terrified of their club/fans reaction and the media machine that follows behind that reaction. So terrified they ignore blatant red cards and don’t apply the correct offside rules like yesterday in what was effectively a bounce game.
longtallsally
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I don't think that's right. I think we had the best record that year?
In Celtics last 7 league games they have committed 62 fouls and received just 4 bookings. 2 of those bookings were against us.
In fact 6 or their 23 bookings this season have come in the two games against us.
At just 1 booking every 1.25 games against the rest of the league, the officials would be as well just not bothering pretending.
In fact 6 or their 23 bookings this season have come in the two games against us.
At just 1 booking every 1.25 games against the rest of the league, the officials would be as well just not bothering pretending.
MilanBear
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Personally I prefer the one posted earlier
No card for Celtic.
MilanBear
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Even our fans can play a part. Next old firm game at Ibrox at every challenge made by one of them everyone in the stadium raise a yellow card.
ekr true blue
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When did this happen mate, can't remember
Coza
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I’m sure someone posted it here. They still led on every metric.
QueensferryCR3Bear
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That's what I'm hinting at.
And they often get yellows later in games when they have a 2+ goal gap - no threat to the results, keeps the stats moving.
Every time the opposition break, Celtic will try and foul the player. Rarely do they get booked. Opposition do it, yellow every time.
Patterns of assistance.
That mob had about 4 potential red cards in a 2 week period before Christmas. Hatate knew high studs up, Kyogo knee to keepers head, Engels stamp and one other.
If it's us, my money would be on a red for each. "Somehow", zero reds for them.
Last season on their paid mouthpieces in the press giving it the Penalty for Rangers nonsense. Their bhitter chairman mentions it st their AGM. We've not heard that phrase once in the league this season.
The authorities are corrupt. We'll probably get a few decisions in the 2nd half of the season, so they can "even things out" now the league is out of reach.
If it's us, my money would be on a red for each. "Somehow", zero reds for them.
Last season on their paid mouthpieces in the press giving it the Penalty for Rangers nonsense. Their bhitter chairman mentions it st their AGM. We've not heard that phrase once in the league this season.
The authorities are corrupt. We'll probably get a few decisions in the 2nd half of the season, so they can "even things out" now the league is out of reach.
BallaratBear
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A total disgrace. Corruption off the scale which makes the whole of Scottish football utterly pointless. Over to you Rangers board!
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