Sportsound, Budge interview coming up

I wouldn't normally care if Hearts went down, but it is not right to relegate teams in exceptional circumstances, like this pandemic. Everything has been out of their control. If teams get relegated, it should be because of what happened on the pitch , over the course of a season. Since this season never finished they should not be penalised, and even more, threatened by the very organisation meant to assist them.

Part of this situation is down to uefa dithering on decisions and leaving countries to sort their leagues. It has allowed the corruption and bribery to go ahead here, without consequences. I am not going to take delight in Hearts' situation as it stinks.

All formed and fashioned to give one team a title with little thought for anyone else. The season should have been declared null and void and any European places given on the positions when the season prematurely ended. Then again maybe a certain Team was worried that UEFA had an alternative plan.

They had the nerve to question sporting integrity in the past and they would not know sporting integrity if it kicked them in the arse.
 
The most interesting bit was about people willing to put money in to keep lower league clubs going (not necessarily Hearts) and getting nothing back from the SPFL.

Who is making these decisions?

This is a league who can't get a sponsor FFS - and Budge is offering them money for nothing?????

When the crisis first broke she said Hearts had enough to keep the lights on for 3 months. Now she's saying she has backers worth millions. She's at it.
 
She's been alright so far to be fair.

Acknowledges her plan will fail.

She wrote to the SPFL back in March suggesting they needed to look at what was coming and was fobbed off.

Slated the lack of leadership within the SPFL.

Says her plan is a discussion document and we need to get to grips with what is unfolding.

Two QCs advise her she has a case but will only do that as a last resort.

Has backers willing to help clubs out but was fobbed off by the SPFL again who said 'put a paper in' LOL.


Put paper in to ..

SPFL
Celtic Park
Glasgow G40
 
I wouldn't normally care if Hearts went down, but it is not right to relegate teams in exceptional circumstances, like this pandemic. Everything has been out of their control. If teams get relegated, it should be because of what happened on the pitch , over the course of a season. Since this season never finished they should not be penalised, and even more, threatened by the very organisation meant to assist them.

Part of this situation is down to uefa dithering on decisions and leaving countries to sort their leagues. It has allowed the corruption and bribery to go ahead here, without consequences. I am not going to take delight in Hearts' situation as it stinks.
The whole thing comes down to the fact relegation and promotion are inseparable (although the SPFL are trying) that’s why ‘null and void’ was the fairest option. You lose nothing by going that route and in fact it would have helped clubs more democratically if you’d shared the prize money equally. The damages due to TV was identical. Of course the poets manipulated the situation to their advantage and we have this mess as a result.
 
Dundee held off their vote and negotiated something no other club got to negotiate and voted accordingly.

Stinks more than Durie's car after Gazza's double single fish takeaway.
 
The philanthropists and their multi-millions to help clubs survive is incredible. Doncaster wouldn't even speak to them. Told Budge to 'put in paper' FFS.

Its might be a dubious offer but you surely at least talk to them.
Yes he's right he needed it in writing so that Peter could look it over and say yes or no.
Donkeyman, he haw lways does that.
Who is this mysterious Peter ? :))
 
Yes he's right he needed it in writing so that Peter could look it over and say yes or no.
Donkeyman, he haw lways does that.
Who is this mysterious Peter ? :))

Doncaster did say in his statement that one of his meetings with Budge had ‘a club Chairman’ in on it as well. GIven it would have been a virtual meeting then that must have been planned/pre-arranged. It wasn’t accidental that’s for sure. I wonder who it was? Nobody in the media seems to want to ask.
 
How can UEFA allow mysterious anonymous benefactors to donate money with no strings attached to assist lower leagues in Scotland

This is dodgy as phuck and it has the stench of bribery and yet even more corruption

The basic integrity of our game is shot to bits. There is zero credibility left and you have to question is there a more corrupt league in Europe ?
Perhaps in Latvia or Lithuania, it seems the Scottish league is ripe for the dodgy dealings that are associated with these places, does anyone know of a good Latvian bank. :eek:
 
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How can UEFA allow mysterious anonymous benefactors to donate money with no strings attached to assist lower leagues in Scotland

This is dodgy as phuck and it has the stench of bribery and yet even more corruption

The basic integrity of our game is shot to bits. There is zero credibility left and you have to question is there a more corrupt league in Europe ?
motherwell have already benefitted from "money belonging to celtic"
it's not new.
 
Nothing new except the philanthropist millions that highlights yet again poor Corporate Governance, the executives these diddy clubs rescued have just signed their death sentence. Idiot's!
 
The philanthropists and their multi-millions to help clubs survive is incredible. Doncaster wouldn't even speak to them. Told Budge to 'put in paper' FFS.

Its might be a dubious offer but you surely at least talk to them.
The fact is the SPFL is not interested in the majority of clubs well being, otherwise they would have allowed our proposal to split the prize money equally be voted on
 
Given the SPFLs record for corruption and general dishonesty, then recycling cash from mysterious donors is certainly not out of the question.
 
Tbh I think she has a point. The SFPL have only been bothered about making the Tim's champions then making sure they get the top league started so they get money off sky. They don't seem to be giving a feck about the other leagues or the fact it's looking like we'll only have 1 league in Scotland kicking off in August.

I'm surprised we haven't seen more of the teams outwith the premier League asking questions of the SPFL. What the %^*& is going on, should be the first one.
 
Hearts are not going to get reconstruction, too much self interest going on for any agreement to be metmade. Sooner they get the legal action underway the better
 
The fact is the SPFL is not interested in the majority of clubs well being, otherwise they would have allowed our proposal to split the prize money equally be voted on
Our proposal was never to split prize money equally but to give clubs loans based on the prize money they would be entitled to based on their league position.
 
I wouldn't normally care if Hearts went down, but it is not right to relegate teams in exceptional circumstances, like this pandemic. Everything has been out of their control. If teams get relegated, it should be because of what happened on the pitch , over the course of a season. Since this season never finished they should not be penalised, and even more, threatened by the very organisation meant to assist them.

Part of this situation is down to uefa dithering on decisions and leaving countries to sort their leagues. It has allowed the corruption and bribery to go ahead here, without consequences. I am not going to take delight in Hearts' situation as it stinks.

To be honest, UEFA (and now the SPFL) and their relationship with their member clubs is pretty much an extension of the EU's treatment of its member states in this crisis : rather than actually lead and make difficult decisions they prefer to sit back and let the minions squabble and only throw our the odd threat when they feel like it.

Both organisations have been shown to be full of self seeking big mouths who are found wanting when the chips are down and decisive action required.
 
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To be honest, UEFA (and now the SPFL) and their relationship with their member clubs is pretty much an extension of the EU's treatment of its member states in this crisis : rather than actually lead and make difficult decisions they prefer to sit back and let the minions squabble and only throw our the odd threat when they feel like it.

Both organisations have been shown to be full of self seeking big mouths who are found wanting when the chips are down and decisive action required.

Could not agree more, well said.
 
Our proposal was never to split prize money equally but to give clubs loans based on the prize money they would be entitled to based on their league position.
I believe that was the one that was picked up on and publicized the most because it was already within the SPFL’s remit to do so, but at the very beginning when games were stopped we spoke of ‘other options’ (plural) If the season had to be cancelled including splitting prize money in the event of ‘null and void’. You have to remember we wanted to play the season out first and foremost. It might not have been in the dossier, but l’m pretty certain we spoke of it. The reason it stuck in my mind was because it meant Rangers would lose money if it were implemented.

Regardless, it is still an option that could have been put to clubs if the SPFL, and Doncaster in particular, had done their jobs properly and came up with a variety of solutions instead of ramming home a singular option that favoured the poets and a handful of clubs represented on the SPFL board.
 
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