MOTM Poll St Johnstone v Rangers - 19:00 Wednesday - RangersTV

Your Man of the Match

  • McLaughlin

    Votes: 8 2.0%
  • Tavernier

    Votes: 2 0.5%
  • Goldson

    Votes: 8 2.0%
  • Simpson

    Votes: 21 5.3%
  • Barisic

    Votes: 1 0.3%
  • Wright

    Votes: 271 68.4%
  • Davis

    Votes: 14 3.5%
  • Kamara

    Votes: 37 9.3%
  • Hagi

    Votes: 1 0.3%
  • Itten

    Votes: 14 3.5%
  • Roofe

    Votes: 4 1.0%
  • Patterson

    Votes: 3 0.8%
  • Arfield

    Votes: 1 0.3%
  • Aribo

    Votes: 10 2.5%
  • Defoe/Bassey

    Votes: 1 0.3%

  • Total voters
    396
The most important parts for me before tonight's game was to get minutes into players legs who have lacked game time, good to get Tav and Simpson in and also big Itten getting 90mins, Roofe getting 90 as well all though he does really seem to struggle with getting up to speed
 
Got to be honest, Patterson’s arrival has really shone a light on Bassey’s shortcomings. He charges around like a bull, no composure whatsoever - just not a trustworthy replacement for Borna I'm afraid. See no progress since the St Mirren debacle.
Away you go. Bassey looked good and performed well for the most part. He’s young and barely plays but gets slaughtered the moment he does something you don’t like.
 
Sunday will see our full team and they'll never get in our box for the same chances as tonight. With all the changes tonight the result is no real surprise.
 
What about the decision he gave against Defoe on the halfway line? The boy was backing into Defoe. Can’t even get the easy decisions right, never mind the ‘big’ ones.
The decision against Defoe at the edge of the box was worse - tackle came right through the back of him.
The ref was clearly precious Defoe had a go at him for the shite decision a few minutes before.
 
Got to be honest, Patterson’s arrival has really shone a light on Bassey’s shortcomings. He charges around like a bull, no composure whatsoever - just not a trustworthy replacement for Borna I'm afraid. See no progress since the St Mirren debacle.
You can make that assessment on the little he has played? Clearly a far better judge of players than our scouts and management team.
 
What is it with the bizarre refereeing we've seen this season?

God awful refereeing tonight, a boy in a black shirt running around not knowing what he was doing, guessing decisions and panicking.

Not even remotely fit for this league, this should be the end of him at this level.
Should be able to fast track them down to 7 a side weans football as quickly as they fast track them up the divisions! Very very poor performance tonight, yellow cards were ridiculous, foul by JD a joke, leniency on Rooney baffling, 3 non penalties= a penalty!

Still wish we were more street smart on when to engage in tackles, scream for a foul etc the way teams do to us. Bizarre we'd have 70% of the ball almost every game yet drawn into receiving a high number of yellows
 
Ah well, looks like the "Rangers don't get penalties against them" Trophy is going in the cabinet along with the "Morelos Doesn't score against us trophy", "Rangers don't get red cards" trophies we've already accrued this season.
"aye but, rae penalties are gettin gein noo yes huv cheatit yer way tae the title."

You just know they will come back with that.
 
We've won the league by 20+ points.
We made 7 changes to prioritise the Scottish Cup.

We maintained our unbeaten league season and only a terrible ref prevented us from winning.

No idea why anyone is getting so worked up about tonight.
Because maybe I’d like us to smash some more club records

points total record is 97
Wins in a season - 31
League Most clean sheets - 25

least Simpson will know what he’s up against . Roofe doesn’t take that shot if we need the points
 
I think we would have equaled the clean sheet record in the league tonight had we hung on for a second. So that's disappointing.
 
Pretty sure Roofe's 'shot' didn't lead to the goal.
The dodgy penalty was the reason we conceded a goal.

Just you carry on with your 'incompetence' theory all the same.
You not getting if he plays it to the right where we have two men going forward it changes what happens
 
Nothing really learned...

The biggest issue was of course the forward line. The drop off was huge; although we can say Wright did well in places and it was a superb goal.

It's what we knew....we need to raise 'general level' of squad as first XI has very few genuine challengers except Patterson, and Arfield, and now possibly Wright.

Still unbeaten.
 
He has a valid point.
Had Roofe kept possession there would've been no dodgy pen.
Oh really. And how do you know that?
He has a point, certainly. Just not sure it is valid.

Think about it. Roofe's shot, while ill-advised (he should have held the ball up or played it wide, with hindsight) did not lead to their goal. Their attack was thwarted. The StJ guy put his shot over, then there was contact. That is not a penalty.
How is that down to Roofe?
 
What I noticed was the ref completely absolved himself of blame (for making the right call) by signalling the penalty was overruled by the linesman via his earpiece. Shitebag.
Despite that he still felt the need to make up for it by booking our players for absolutely nothing and giving them a joke penalty.
When he went on that 4 yellow cards in about 5 minutes spree it was clear as day he was really angry and upset he had to change his decision.
 
Midfield really beginning to worry me now, we need major reconstruction in there for next season.
Ofoborh to come in, Jack we need to hope his specialist sorts him out, Arfield needs to hit the heights of Sunday every game now.
Definitely need a money signing in there but not concerned, we're well placed going forward when you think it's only April. Got about 15 weeks to sort it before CL qualifying, the futures bright
 
Midfield really beginning to worry me now, we need major reconstruction in there for next season.
They don't worry me too much as they all have had a great season. But where they do annoy me is we don't know what midfield is going to turn up. On Sunday they came tearing out the traps, but tonight they seemed to be disconnected from the defence for the first 15 minutes until Davis started to come back and pick up the ball.

Also there was a bit of feck this with Goldson and Tav launching it when the midfield were not making space for themselves.

Kamara was a different player when Aribo came on the park.

A winnable game tonight that would have been won if we had gone through the gears for about 20 mins and put it out of reach.

It will be different outcome at the weekend.
 
Nothing came off for Itten I don't think our formation suits him, no luck at all, but Roofe had another howler imo, overhit and underhit passes, poor ball control all night which a lot of people will overlook for the one very very good pass to Wright.
Other way round for me, thought roofe offered more than itten tonight. That's why we all love football tho, nobody sees it the same I suppose!
 
Okay, that’s another.
Not too much regarding performances so far.
No I agree on the performance.

I’m probably in the minority though, as going unbeaten or getting 100 points means little to me. It was only ever about winning the league.

With that said the main positive for me is being able to rest key players, and get through tonight with no injuries ahead of the main goal of taking a step nearer winning the double on Sunday.

I’m not going to look too deeply, or get upset about results or performances in dead rubbers.
 
Ofoborh to come in, Jack we need to hope his specialist sorts him out, Arfield needs to hit the heights of Sunday every game now.
Definitely need a money signing in there but not concerned, we're well placed going forward when you think it's only April. Got about 15 weeks to sort it before CL qualifying, the futures bright
That’s why I asked the question mate, it was an interesting comment considering how impressive the Rangers midfield has been the majority of the season.

Only thing I could maybe think of would be if Kamara was to move on, not that I’m saying he will be seeking the move but there can’t be any doubt big money clubs will be after a player of his calibre and his quality.
 
Pretty sure Roofe's 'shot' didn't lead to the goal.
The dodgy penalty was the reason we conceded a goal.

Just you carry on with your 'incompetence' theory all the same.
When Roofe was in possession, so late in the game, they should never had been allowed the opportunity to get forward again.
Is it really too much to expect a player to make the professional decision at that stage in the game?
 
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That’s why I asked the question mate, it was an interesting comment considering how impressive the Rangers midfield has been the majority of the season.

Only thing I could maybe think of would be if Kamara was to move on, not that I’m saying he will be seeking the move but there can’t be any doubt big money clubs will be after a player of his calibre and his quality.
Yeah I think it's fans getting too far ahead, they have worst case scenario in their mind because we drew 1 game of football !!
Arfield doesn't hit his heights, Jack doesn't recover, Davis to retire next year, Kamara leaves... Arfield proved Sunday he's still class, Davis we don't need to worry about for 15 months, Jack there's a question mark, Kamara goes we'll reinvest. There's nothing not to be excited about with our midfield
 
Clearly just me who thinks it was a stonewall penalty to them? They could have had another too.

A poor performance, but I'm not concerned in the slightest.

Wright looked good. Simpson, Itten, Goldson and Barasic all poor tonight.
 
Im looking forward to your explanation to how they could have scored twice
I don't have one. It's conjecture. It's a bit like saying, if Roofe runs the ball into the corner, it would then be impossible for StJ to score before the end of the match.
Just the same as the Roofe shot, which led to a goal kick, is the reason we lost the lead.
We defended their next attack. The goal was not Roofe's fault.

Yer man is using the reasoning of IF. So am I.
IF Roofe had missed to the right instead of the left, the goal kick would have been taken from the other side, causing the game shape to be different at that point. IF Roofe had held the ball and lost it, they could have scored from open play. Like I say, conjecture.
 
No I agree on the performance.

I’m probably in the minority though, as going unbeaten or getting 100 points means little to me. It was only ever about winning the league.

With that said the main positive for me is being able to rest key players, and get through tonight with no injuries ahead of the main goal of taking a step nearer winning the double on Sunday.

I’m not going to look too deeply, or get upset about results or performances in dead rubbers.
Likewise.
Your summary is 100% accurate to me.
My response was actually to a poster who suggested there was plenty of positives.
 
Well that was a tough watch and I now feel robbed of £17.50! Some people are squad players and for me it showed, hopefully keeping our powder dry for the week-end!
 
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Yeah I think it's fans getting too far ahead, they have worst case scenario in their mind because we drew 1 game of football !!
Arfield doesn't hit his heights, Jack doesn't recover, Davis to retire next year, Kamara leaves... Arfield proved Sunday he's still class, Davis we don't need to worry about for 15 months, Jack there's a question mark, Kamara goes we'll reinvest. There's nothing not to be excited about with our midfield
If Kamara does end up going I can’t see anything less than £10m. I actually think he is worth a lot, lot more but I’m not sure how the market is going to be. Rangers stock is up surely after two great seasons in Europe.
 
Clearly just me who thinks it was a stonewall penalty to them? They could have had another too.

A poor performance, but I'm not concerned in the slightest.

Wright looked good. Simpson, Itten, Goldson and Barasic all poor tonight.
Not the one that was given.
 
I don't have one. It's conjecture. It's a bit like saying, if Roofe runs the ball into the corner, it would then be impossible for StJ to score before the end of the match.
Just the same as the Roofe shot, which led to a goal kick, is the reason we lost the lead.
We defended their next attack. The goal was not Roofe's fault.

Yer man is using the reasoning of IF. So am I.
IF Roofe had missed to the right instead of the left, the goal kick would have been taken from the other side, causing the game shape to be different at that point. IF Roofe had held the ball and lost it, they could have scored from open play. Like I say, conjecture.
Id say that if Roofe retains possession then we win the game. It's down to game management and the gaffer agrees with that
 

FULL-TIME St Johnstone 1-1 Rangers​

That's all she wrote. What a crazy end in Perth!
Rangers remain unbeaten but can no longer reach the 100 point mark.
A good boost for St Johnstone before the teams meet again at the weekend on Scottish Cup duty.

3 games to go - wtf are the bbc on??? We can still get to 102 points
BBC haven't twigged it's 3 points for a win these days :cool:
 
When Roofe was in possession, so late in the game, they should never had been allowed the opportunity to get forward again.
Is it really too much to expect a player to make the professional decision at that stage in the game?
He did make a professional decision. He decided to shoot, knowing the worst he could concede was a goal kick. We were hardly blazing forward at the time. Bassey and Patterson were not bombing up the wings. The midfield were hardly available for a layoff, defending as they were.


We then conceded from a non-penalty after defending their attack.
 
The floor is yours.
Wright’s first goal, McLaughlin and Patterson getting game time?

Still unbeaten with key players rested ahead of the weekend. Tavernier returning. Wright scoring and looking sharp. Itten having a solid second-half despite barely playing for months. McLaughlin, Aribo and Kamara. An untested centre back pairing being seconds away from keeping a clean sheet.

We went away to a difficult side with 7 changes. It was never going to be liquid football.

The criticism of an XI that has barely played together, some of whom are undercooked in terms of match sharpness, is ridiculous but not surprising.
 
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