Standard Liege

Livi_Bear

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I watched their game last night and they were very good, big guy Darwin up front cost them £24m from Spanish second division club Almeria, scored a hatrick against Poznan last week and Benfica manager thinks he will go for more than the £126m they recieved for Joao Felix if he's sold in future, they really do pull in some amount of money in transfers and their scouting system is fantastic.

Looking through their squad it's full of exellent players from Morroco,Greece,Brazil,Portugal,Germany, quite a young team,superfit and chase everything,very comfortable on the ball, nice quick passing and they all trackback and close space down when they don't have the ball.

They are a champions league team without a doubt and I think they are a much better team than Leverkusen,we'll be lucky to take a point ifrom them being honest.
And yet we beat Porto, eventual league winners
 

Russell

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Don’t get ahead of ourselves just yet bears. Legia are better side than some aare suggesting...we were really really good on the night.
A win on Thursday puts us in the driving seat though...I’m particularly looking forward to the Benfica games as it will probably be our toughest test to date under Mr Gerrard in Europe.
 

Cutty/Young

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And yet we beat Porto, eventual league winners
Yes we did but not without a bit of luck on our side, Porto had two cleared off the line by Davis and Goldson and the wonder save from McGregor before we scored.

Braga were 4th or 5th in the league and taught us a lesson in the first half at Ibrox where we could easily have been 4-0 down and if anyone is honest,most of us watching through our fingers that night in the first half,again we carried a bit of luck with the winning goal.

Out of both Porto and Braga, I thought Braga were the far better team and they weren't champions of Portugal and they had some great players. Sometimes in games you carry a bit of luck and take the win,that's just the way football works, I think a lot of people are getting a bit carried away to the extent last week a poster on here saying we could compete with any of the top teams in Europe,and plenty just writing off this Polish team before we've even played them,feet need to be firmly planted on the ground,let's not get carried away.

I've watched Benfica twice now and think they are better than both Porto,Braga and Leverkusen and play better football, I think this out of all the good teams we've played, will be the toughest test and will either show how how far we have come or how far we still have to go before even thinking about the champions league.
 

Grigo Yossarian

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I watched their game last night and they were very good, big guy Darwin up front cost them £24m from Spanish second division club Almeria, scored a hatrick against Poznan last week and Benfica manager thinks he will go for more than the £126m they recieved for Joao Felix if he's sold in future, they really do pull in some amount of money in transfers and their scouting system is fantastic.

Looking through their squad it's full of exellent players from Morroco,Greece,Brazil,Portugal,Germany, quite a young team,superfit and chase everything,very comfortable on the ball, nice quick passing and they all trackback and close space down when they don't have the ball.

They are a champions league team without a doubt and I think they are a much better team than Leverkusen,we'll be lucky to take a point from them being honest.

Thanks Cutty.

So Darwin is the guy I was talking about. He’s definitely quality as you say.

I didn’t watch the whole game but, yes, on the highlights I thought that they looked a level up from Porto last season.


They actually look an exciting team, not that we want that against us.
 
And yet we beat Porto, eventual league winners

I have to agree with Cutty/Young on this one. As a response to Porto taking the title back, Benfica went out and spent € 100 million on players from Brazil, the EPL and Bundesliga. They are a good side but still a bit fragile at the back, which is always the case with Jorge Jesus' teams.

I would disagree that they're better than Leverkusen though and we are better than we were. Great games to look forward to and we definitely have a good chance to get through this group.

We also shouldn't overlook how good we have become in Europe.
 
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Loyal Latina

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Mate there is no ‘should be enough’

if we beat Poznan and Liege home and away then we are comfortably through to the knock out stages
Unless Standard beat Benfica twice.
In a group that finishes
12, 12, 12, 0
Someone has to go out!
That said. The possibility of that could be gone come Thursday.
Same as a group that finishes 18, 4, 4, 4
Someone has to go through in second!

The bottom worst point has never happened.
Lowest total EL is 7. And 6 for CL.

No club has ever failed to qualify from EL with 11 points.
Although Napoli and PSG have missed out on qualification in the CL with 12 points.
 

Brave13VVV

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Unless Standard beat Benfica twice.
In a group that finishes
12, 12, 12, 0
Someone has to go out!
That said. The possibility of that could be gone come Thursday.
Same as a group that finishes 18, 4, 4, 4
Someone has to go through in second!

The bottom worst point has never happened.
Lowest total EL is 7. And 6 for CL.

No club has ever failed to qualify from EL with 11 points.
Although Napoli and PSG have missed out on qualification in the CL with 12 points.
Did you really go to the effort to type that out :)
 

Arminius

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Too many on here jumping ahead of themselves.
These matches are very unpredictable.

European group stages don’t have any diddy teams in them, except maybe AC Milan’s group. They got lucky with one team of diddies.

As for us, I go into every european tie with a sense of caution. We need to be on our game to beat any of the teams in our group, even at home.

So, I’m confident but not over confident.
 

Jelle1880

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Completely missed that but Kevin Muscat is coach at Sint Truiden, the team that beat them this weekend.
 

Kennyr

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Benfica will batter them both to be honest so I honestly think that if we win our 2 home games against Poznan and Standard that will be enough to get 2nd.
We should be pushing for 1st place in group

Benfica are a good side but we have a great record against Portuguese teams
 

hms

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A victory on Thursday and a draw in the other game, then defeat Lech away should see us through
Lech or Leige wouldn’t overturn a 8/9 point deficit in 3 games
 

Loyal Latina

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Did you really go to the effort to type that out :)
The post I replied to got me curious.
And I didn't want to just be rude and say 12 points guarantee you nothing.

So after commenting I done a bit of digging and thought I'd share what I found.
And the post grew from there.
Sorry if too much info for you sir.

All that said, not a single like above so seems no one else gave a fook.:eek:
 
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remembertheepoch

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You just know that Poznan will be right up for it against us. Do they not have history with an alliance to the holey goalie who only every seemed to be religious when he played us.
 

Bigbluebear

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If both us and Benfica win then in its likely that come match day 5 then all we need is to beat Liege at home and we will be through. If its 6-6-0-0 after Thursday night the Benfica games are effectively a free hit for us*

*Assuming Poznan don't win both games v Liege
 

Athletico Parsnips

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With our record and performances under Gerrard in Europe we should beat the Poles, however I have serious scar tissue from us writing off teams through the 90's and ending up with egg on our faces.
I doubt Lech will be a canter tbh.
 

Big Buff

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Yes we did but not without a bit of luck on our side, Porto had two cleared off the line by Davis and Goldson and the wonder save from McGregor before we scored.

Braga were 4th or 5th in the league and taught us a lesson in the first half at Ibrox where we could easily have been 4-0 down and if anyone is honest,most of us watching through our fingers that night in the first half,again we carried a bit of luck with the winning goal.

Out of both Porto and Braga, I thought Braga were the far better team and they weren't champions of Portugal and they had some great players. Sometimes in games you carry a bit of luck and take the win,that's just the way football works, I think a lot of people are getting a bit carried away to the extent last week a poster on here saying we could compete with any of the top teams in Europe,and plenty just writing off this Polish team before we've even played them,feet need to be firmly planted on the ground,let's not get carried away.

I've watched Benfica twice now and think they are better than both Porto,Braga and Leverkusen and play better football, I think this out of all the good teams we've played, will be the toughest test and will either show how how far we have come or how far we still have to go before even thinking about the champions league.
Strongly disagree that Benfica are better than Leverkusen tbh. We might not win against Benfica but we’ll give it a go. We couldn’t even do that against Leverkusen
 

Kimarcus

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We should be pushing for 1st place in group

Benfica are a good side but we have a great record against Portuguese teams
True BUT I'm not sure a record against Portuguese teams means that much. The only common point is nationality.

We did very well against Porto last season but we actually played them at a good moment when they were struggling.

Since then I'm hearing that Benfica and Porto have improved significantly. Benfica spent over £80m this summer.
 

brain

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There was the same over-confidence on here before we played Leverkusen.

I haven't seen Benfica play but this is the first time since the 13/14 season they have spent more than they have received in transfer fees, which was also after a season they were nicked to the title.

I think finishing top of the group is a tall order.
 

Alex Venters

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I thought Standard were decent.
The pitch becoming well night unplayable actually worked in our favour, as they had to chase the game, impossible on that surface.
I thought both their full backs were very good, particularly the RB.

A little bit of revisionisim going on here. They'll pose a threat at Ibrox, although I'd still expect to beat them.
 

Alex Venters

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If both us and Benfica win then in its likely that come match day 5 then all we need is to beat Liege at home and we will be through. If its 6-6-0-0 after Thursday night the Benfica games are effectively a free hit for us*

*Assuming Poznan don't win both games v Liege
Nothing like getting ahead of ourselves, is there?
Let's concentrate on getting three points on Thursday.
It most certainly won't be easy. It never is for us in Europe.
 

Alex Venters

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Yes we did but not without a bit of luck on our side, Porto had two cleared off the line by Davis and Goldson and the wonder save from McGregor before we scored.

Braga were 4th or 5th in the league and taught us a lesson in the first half at Ibrox where we could easily have been 4-0 down and if anyone is honest,most of us watching through our fingers that night in the first half,again we carried a bit of luck with the winning goal.

Out of both Porto and Braga, I thought Braga were the far better team and they weren't champions of Portugal and they had some great players. Sometimes in games you carry a bit of luck and take the win,that's just the way football works, I think a lot of people are getting a bit carried away to the extent last week a poster on here saying we could compete with any of the top teams in Europe,and plenty just writing off this Polish team before we've even played them,feet need to be firmly planted on the ground,let's not get carried away.

I've watched Benfica twice now and think they are better than both Porto,Braga and Leverkusen and play better football, I think this out of all the good teams we've played, will be the toughest test and will either show how how far we have come or how far we still have to go before even thinking about the champions league.
If they're better than Leverkussen we're in bother.
The Germans were a class or two above us without getting out of first gear.
 

Bigbluebear

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If they're better than Leverkussen we're in bother.
The Germans were a class or two above us without getting out of first gear.

The Benfica games are fairly irrelevant in terms of qualification, IMO.

Obviously we will try our best to get some points, but I expect we qualify purely based on the games v Liege and Poznan.
 
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