Steven Gerrard gets green light to bring another big name

Obviously I’m hoping for another player to brought in that improves the first 11 further. Likewise, I hope to keep Morelos and Tav for another season.

The thing that please me most about that interview is the structure and the processes we now have around transfers. MA and SG identifying players, presenting to the board for review, discussion and, possibly, an objective opinion, a review of the overall squad status to make sure everything makes sense before a deal is sanctioned. That may sound like a bang avaerage football club acquisition process but it’s clearly been something we as a club only implemented 12 months ago.

It all adds to the stability and control of how a big football club should be run.
 
ID10 said:
It was widely being discussed yesterday it was £250,000 at our EveryoneAnyone press conference, so most likely club have given nod on that

That’s the fee I have been told we received

As for money available and someone else to come in, I tweeted out on blog Helander done 2 more to go, if you consider Kent being one then today’s story makes sense in line with what I was told

Hopefully it’s a wee surprise for everyone
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See if your not that busy could you just ask who it is and then tell us.
 
ID10 said:
It was widely being discussed yesterday it was £250,000 at our EveryoneAnyone press conference, so most likely club have given nod on that

That’s the fee I have been told we received

As for money available and someone else to come in, I tweeted out on blog Helander done 2 more to go, if you consider Kent being one then today’s story makes sense in line with what I was told

Hopefully it’s a wee surprise for everyone
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If that’s true I’m disgusted by that fee, how on earth do we as a club start to ensure Agents and other Clubs know we are no soft touch if we continue accept meagre fees like this! Robertson talks about increasing our % of revenue from player sales while accepting deals like this, we need to play hard ball with players, agents and other clubs if they either want to move on or they want our players!

Rangers first for me never second!!

Really really annoyed with these paltry figures we receive time and again!
 
“Costs associated with bringing Joe Aribo from Charlton were £2m” so in other words his agents fee and his wages on top of the transfer fee. :rolleyes:
 
People should really pay attention to what Robertson is saying when they talk about not wanting to qualify for the Europa to concentrate on the league etc. Europa League qualification is absolutely crucial for our business plan and revenue.

European Revenue, buying cheap and selling big is how we become sustainable whilst continuing to improve the club.
 
Drumchapel-Bear said:
People should really pay attention to what Robertson is saying when they talk about not wanting to qualify for the Europa to concentrate on the league etc. Europa League qualification is absolutely crucial for our business plan and revenue.

European Revenue, buying cheap and selling big is how we become sustainable whilst continuing to improve the club.
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That’s all fine and well mate but when u look at the tie that we will get on the play off then there has to be some form of speculate to accumulate? Not sure where we need to strengthen though. If u gave me 10 million right now then I think I would look at a number 10 but as I say I couldn’t tell u who
 
Drumchapel-Bear said:
People should really pay attention to what Robertson is saying when they talk about not wanting to qualify for the Europa to concentrate on the league etc. Europa League qualification is absolutely crucial for our business plan and revenue.

European Revenue, buying cheap and selling big is how we become sustainable whilst continuing to improve the club.
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This is really key point. Can’t believe some of the nonsense you read on here about Europa League not being important

It is vital we become sustainable. King and the three bears aren’t bottomless pits of money. They will have limits as well.

Always remember what has happened. We can’t get to that point again.
 
WATP said:
If that’s true I’m disgusted by that fee, how on earth do we as a club start to ensure Agents and other Clubs know we are no soft touch if we continue accept meagre fees like this! Robertson talks about increasing our % of revenue from player sales while accepting deals like this, we need to play hard ball with players, agents and other clubs if they either want to move on or they want our players!

Rangers first for me never second!!

Really really annoyed with these paltry figures we receive time and again!
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Why use such emotive language. Real panty wetting stuff. The player wanted to move he was surplus to requirements and taking a wage. 31 one year left? What do you think you would get?

If this annoys you so much maybe you need to take a step back and look at where we are. Where we have been and then tel me the club isn’t run properly.
 
Robocop1960 said:
What is this £250,000 pish thought it was €1000000 ?Are we being led up the garden path?
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.. that's the problem with folk choosing to believe the outlandish

Most genuine sources reported it in the 250k to 300k area.


the £1m thing was made up by a fan page
 
temperance said:
“Costs associated with bringing Joe Aribo from Charlton were £2m” so in other words his agents fee and his wages on top of the transfer fee. :rolleyes:
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No. His wages won’t be included in reported costs. He’s widely reported to be on circa £20k per week so that’s another £4m.
 
Hipster Dashie said:
Why use such emotive language. Real panty wetting stuff. The player wanted to move he was surplus to requirements and taking a wage. 31 one year left? What do you think you would get?

If this annoys you so much maybe you need to take a step back and look at where we are. Where we have been and then tel me the club isn’t run properly.
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Your reply to me is overly emotive and quite frankly poor, inferring I’m suggesting the club isn’t being run right from a comment about one deal....strange indeed, I’ve been with the club every step of our way back both as a season ticket holder and a shareholder.

In a supporters forum I am well within my rights to say whether I think a deal is right or not imho.....I’ve went on record saying many deals we have done are superb but this one I am not happy about at the reported £250k. I’d even go as far as to say at €1m that’s great business but if it is only £250k that in my opinion is a terrible deal. Whether players want to move or not is an aside to what they move for!!

Now to be clear before you reply, not one piece of your attempted defamatory personalisation of my toilet habits will stop me having an opinion.

Good day to you!
 
ID10 said:
£250,000 grand for a guy not in our plans with a year left & since he asked to go will save us £500,000 on wages

If you look past the Football Manager expected fees it’s a deal which suits us perfectly
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Do you think Gerrard has a secret weapon up his sleeve mate?
 
Clubs absolutely should make it known how much players signed under freedom of contract cost.

Aribo - 2 million
Arfield likely 3/4 million last year.

It's never "free" to sign good football players.
 
ID10 said:
£250,000 grand for a guy not in our plans with a year left & since he asked to go will save us £500,000 on wages

If you look past the Football Manager expected fees it’s a deal which suits us perfectly
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I don’t get this not in our plans, Gerrard is on record that him and Allen sat Dan down and stated they wanted him to stay, the game is a squad game these days....and they wanted him in the squad.

As I said at €1m its a good deal but at £250k that’s not of value imho
 
WATP said:
I don’t get this not in our plans, Gerrard is on record that him and Allen sat Dan down and stated they wanted him to stay, the game is a squad game these days....and they wanted him in the squad.

As I said at €1m its a good deal but at £250k that’s not of value imho
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So you think someone who we paid £700,000 for, someone who is nearly 32, someone who has been told they’re not a regular starter and is in the last year of their contract is worth 40% more than what we paid for them?

That’s just mind blowing. I hate to use it as a regular player, but this isn’t FIFA.
 
ICA_86 said:
I’m shocked at the lack of grasp at this fee.

Folk talking about getting £1m are living on fucking Mars, honestly.

Someone who only signed for £700,000, is on the wrong side of 31 and who only has a year left.

I’m dumbfounded as to what people were genuinely expecting.
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Think you are getting overexcited too here i’m afraid. He was signed having literally never appeared in a competitive game for Benfica and I think in the last year of his contract there too. They were wanting rid. He was 29 then so hardly a youngster. And cost £700k. A fairly cheap journeyman fee in modern football reflecting his status.

We sell him 2 years older but still in robust fitness in the last year of his contract and not central to our plans but still a first team regular scoring freely in preseason. We had far more use for him than Benfica had. He also has played in Europe with us for about the only time in his career (think he had one appearance elsewhere). Certainly had far more success with us than he had anywhere else. Also played far more first team games for us than anywhere else in his career.

£250k does seem cheap. Not saying we should have got megabucks for him. Or even that getting him off the wage bill was a bad move. But it is perfectly reasonable for folk to feel that, in the modern game, we should have got more. £1mill is not a huge fee. €1mill is (until next week...) even less.

Saying that discussing a fee of 1mill is from Mars is the opinion from Pluto, i’m afraid.
 
ICA_86 said:
Again, mental.

People can’t be serious with this £1m stuff, surely to Christ.
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Why not? First team regular, under contract. Decent number of goals and assists. We keep undervaluing our players and giving them away. At least start there and meet in the middle.
 
Kemar Roofe is the one that would make me happy, especially if it's in addition to Morelos staying. Very good player and I think he could play in behind Morelos / Defoe rather than direct competition.

The rumoured 5 mil price from a few weeks ago seems more than fair but of course it is still a lot of money to splash out so not convinced it will happen unless Morelos goes but if it does, would be another top drawer signkng and statement of intent.
 
£1m is absolutely mental talk for a player of Candeias’ age, relative journeyman past and - most importantly - a year left on the deal.

He was free in five months’ time, so his value is reduced massively.

I love DC and defended him on here and twitter until I was blue in the face, but we’ve got to be reasonable. We benefitted from a similar situation to sign Kamara for £50,000, there’s no way anyone’s paying more than £300/400k for Candeias and if we got any more than that, well done to Mark Allen.
 
Rambo said:
Don't quote me on this but I think Gerrard has a secret weapon up his sleeve to pull out yet.
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You’re quoted.
By the way, I think you might be right and, if we get to play and beat the Danish side, he’ll have signed in time for the play off.
 
I dont trust a word that comes out of SR mouth now tbf. I think we have some very incompetent board members. Only way we are paying big for anyone is if we sell Alfie for serious money. Even then I dont think we will get the same level of funds we would have before yesterdays ruling to reinvest back in the squad.
 
We don't need another signing just now,we are strong all over the park,i'd rather keep the money till xmas time,see where we are and then hit them with a haymaker signing (souness style) to push us onto 55
 
Assuming this isn't dependent on selling Morelos/Tav, and assuming Kent is in the bag, where do people think we need to bring in another big name?

Maybe left back? A goal scoring midfielder in the style of a young Niko would be good too? Although both may mean that we're overloaded in each position.
 
ICA_86 said:
So you think someone who we paid £700,000 for, someone who is nearly 32, someone who has been told they’re not a regular starter and is in the last year of their contract is worth 40% more than what we paid for them?

That’s just mind blowing. I hate to use it as a regular player, but this isn’t FIFA.
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You could argue he has played at a better level with us than he was previously ie Europa League and with an expectation of consistency that was also beyond what he’s had to play at previously.

Professional, healthy living players can easily play on into their mid 30s without any drop off in level. Candieas fits that profile, he’s as fit as a fiddle with no injury history. However to be clearer a deal at £700k or above is what I would class as a good deal.
 
Growler said:
Assuming this isn't dependent on selling Morelos/Tav, and assuming Kent is in the bag, where do people think we need to bring in another big name?

Maybe left back? A goal scoring midfielder in the style of a young Niko would be good too? Although both may mean that we're overloaded in each position.
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Think we need another midfielder, ideally a goal scorer from deep. We would benefit from a good specialist left back. We would also benefit from another winger, overloaded as we seem there. Murphy is returning from injury, Hastie is a development prospect, Stewart, Jones and Ojo are unproven at our level. I wonder if a striker who naturally drifts wide would be ideal.
 
Growler said:
Assuming this isn't dependent on selling Morelos/Tav, and assuming Kent is in the bag, where do people think we need to bring in another big name?

Maybe left back? A goal scoring midfielder in the style of a young Niko would be good too? Although both may mean that we're overloaded in each position.
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Why are you assuming this mate?
 
I think it's a good deal for someone not really in our plans who is getting on a bit could leave for nothing in 6 months we gor 250-300 grand plus saved double that on wage yes please and hopefully put that money towards someone else who wants to be here for the fight don't get what some people are going on about the price
 
temperance said:
“Costs associated with bringing Joe Aribo from Charlton were £2m” so in other words his agents fee and his wages on top of the transfer fee. :rolleyes:
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I posted previously about how much his agent got for the deal. Bonkers but the general consensus was it’s what happens these days.
 
WATP said:
You could argue he has played at a better level with us than he was previously ie Europa League and with an expectation of consistency that was also beyond what he’s had to play at previously.

Professional, healthy living players can easily play on into their mid 30s without any drop off in level. Candieas fits that profile, he’s as fit as a fiddle with no injury history. However to be clearer a deal at £700k or above is what I would class as a good deal.
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None of that means anything when he’s free in five months time and about to hit 32.

Like it or lump it, simple football economics.
 
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