Denhaag
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Mate you need to read other posts. The guys in the club deck would not see their side of the pitch if it was lowered
You need to read my posts as I haven't advocated lowering the pitch
Mate you need to read other posts. The guys in the club deck would not see their side of the pitch if it was lowered
totally agree get the awy fans in bf1 and the union bears with safe standing in the away end.If it’s the corners that get filled in one will be for away fans and 1000s of seats won’t get used because of segregation.
Wish we would make a study of moving away fans to BF1.
Did that also not include losing two enclosures?
You seriously think the feasibility study is some sort of ploy by the club?
For what reason?
Complete and utter bollocks .The lower tiers on all the stands are built on top of aggregate and do not have any steel support structure. These can all be remodelled to change the angle of the terrace allowing each stand to be brought closer to the pitch. Main and Govan stands can easily fit 5 additional rows, probably more, with the Copland and Broomloan squeezing in 3-4 additional rows.
If the lower rear Copland and Broomloan are brought to the same level as the Govan this will a facilitate Bar 72 style extensions with perhaps as much as 5 rows additional seating
This has zero impact on existing upper stand structure and will not require the pitch level being lowered. Existing stand upper sightlines remain unchanged and the atmosshere is improved
6000 seats may be optimistic but it can be done relatively quickly and inexpensively. This also leave the upper structures available for future remodelling and expansion.
Not a ploy . We can test for this , check for that , we’ve already done safe standing and costed it but done nothing despite it being extremely cheap and easy to implement . These things happen all the time , and 90 per cent of the time nothing comes of it . The club announced huge changes and improvements To the surrounds of our stadium for our 150th year celebrations and so far = nothing . Not a thing has been done to the outside of Ibrox , not even so much as a clean . Forgive me for being sceptical of such an ambitious “ plan “ to add 6000 seats .
Like winning the league?with that diddy Robertson nothing will happen .
I think we would all like the stadium expanded, however some of us are realistic and others have pie in the sky ideas.
The only effective way to increase capacity without compromising the existing views of current season ticket holders (many have crap seats as it is) would be the option we cannot afford and that would be to fill in the corners. Since this subject comes up every couple of months I'll put it laymens terms for those of you that would struggle with an Ikea computer desk or have only worked in an office all your days , the Copland, Broomloan and Goven Stands have a goalpost and crossbar style structure. To fill in the corners and give fans a unrestricted view of the pitch the "goalposts" in the corners will have to be removed meaning the crossbars now have to be supported. The existing roofs would have to be removed and replaced with modern lighter materials and a whole new structure to support it.....Maybe one day we could afford it, I hope so.
That is a good pic. The roof structure going across the front would be overkill in modern times. The pic does show the problems we have filling in the corners, that vertical support structure has to go.
Without our main stand, Ibrox would be the usual run of mill football stadium.Yes it is, that’s an old website. If you still believe Ibrox is a modern stadium then I really don’t know.
Yup should have spoke to me first would have saved them a few bob . I do hope they can come up with something that doesn't compromise existing season ticket holders. I'd love the corners filled it would look magnificent, maybe one dayBetter tell the club to cancel feasibility study then, no point in wasting money
Yup should have spoke to me first would have saved them a few bob . I do hope they can come up with something that doesn't compromise existing season ticket holders. I'd love the corners filled it would look magnificent, maybe one day
That is a good pic. The roof structure going across the front would be overkill in modern times. The pic does show the problems we have filling in the corners, that vertical support structure has to go.
Heard that Keppie Archiects and ARUP Engineers are looking into this plus old Edminson House.
Still question of who will pay for it plus these seats would not be covered so if you were to extend the roof that would be very expensive
Where you hear this mate?
The newer stands actually extend beyond the seating at present so would technically cover the pitch side seating extension. The main stand doesn't but could have a light weight extension to the existing.Heard that Keppie Archiects and ARUP Engineers are looking into this plus old Edminson House.
Still question of who will pay for it plus these seats would not be covered so if you were to extend the roof that would be very expensive
The newer stands actually extend beyond the seating at present so would technically cover the pitch side seating extension. The main stand doesn't but could have a light weight extension to the existing.
Just how much cover you would get on a driech night in Glsagow would be open to question but that is the trade off.
I remember sitting in the old south stand at Hampden where the seats were beyond the roof. Soaked through, but didn't care a toss, as we beat the tims 1-0. Ally scored, Davie Roberstson had been sent off early doors. That was almost certainly a dreich Glasgow night in terms of weather!!
I'm saying that people will get wet anyway depending on the way the wind blows. Also you cant tell me that the first row of seats is plum with with the edge of the roof surely? Their might be an overhang alreadyare you saying theyre not going to get wet?
That first picture is clearly not the govan
Ive sat around 15 rows up in copland front and still got droont with the way the wind was blowing the rain in
Don't know where you got that photo but that is not how the Govan is constructed, even the inset finished mock up shows that.
It is a photoshoped version to show a 3rd tier.
I remember sitting in the old south stand at Hampden where the seats were beyond the roof. Soaked through, but didn't care a toss, as we beat the tims 1-0. Ally scored, Davie Roberstson had been sent off early doors. That was almost certainly a dreich Glasgow night in terms of weather!!
No worriesyou’re right , the picture I posted is photo shopped . Apologies for that .
however I’m still seeing other Ibrox construction pics showingsteel frame work although as not as clear I was would like
Exactly. I would hate the Club to do any thing short term that would hamper filling in the corners at a later date.Keep it simple increase capacity where it is feasible and refurb, plus modernise where it is needed most.
In layman’s terms mate is what your proposing making the angle more steep or less steep? Non engineer loyal.No worries
The bottom tiers don't have anything to do with the upper and more importantly the roof structure. It is really the only way to increase capacity without major structural works.
The bottom tiers are at a 22 degree slope so adjusting slightly would still hopefully allow enough of an angle to provide decent views. Man City's lower tier is at an 18 degree angle for example.
FFS you'd think they might have made the trackside benches a wee bit longer
no one heard of sky hooks?That is a good pic. The roof structure going across the front would be overkill in modern times. The pic does show the problems we have filling in the corners, that vertical support structure has to go.
In layman’s terms mate is what your proposing making the angle more steep or less steep? Non engineer loyal.
Cheers mate.Less steep mate.
I remember an article in the Rangers News when the Copland was being built in 1978-79, saying that big Peter McCloy could stay dry at that end because the roof overhung the bye-line.I'm saying that people will get wet anyway depending on the way the wind blows. Also you cant tell me that the first row of seats is plum with with the edge of the roof surely? Their might be an overhang already
You’re correct, even just safe standing would be excellent but still absolutely nothing except replacing side panels of the Broomloan and Copland.Im not saying it was , I’m saying we haven’t done a single thing in terms of improving the surrounds of the stadium for our 150th year . We are two years away and nothing has been done .
Dont see where you get the idea Ibrox is hostile. Only time rangers fans are hostile is usually when a player is going through a bad spell and makes a miss placed pass.moving seats down would create an even more hostile environment for visitors, our 12th man just gets stronger imo.
Thank god we have someone who actually knows something. I was told that it was pretty much unfeasible for the corner stuff years ago by Sam Thorburn (my mum was his PA).Don't know where you got that photo but that is not how the Govan is constructed, even the inset finished mock up shows that.
It is a photoshoped version to show a 3rd tier.