Summer dealings

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So we have

Davies, Matondo, Dowell and cifuentes as senior squad returnees from loan.

We lose Cerny, Kasa (I know he’s gone now), Rafa

OOC

Leon B, Lawrence, Devine (I know on loan), Hagi

In Lyall C is replacement for Lawrence I’d say?

26 Summer OOC

Tav, Rice, Raskin, Souttar, Propper

Still a lot of work to do before any sales (Yilmaz, Dessers, Hamza and Jefte likely to attract bids)

Prob missed a couple but we need to look ahead those OOC in 26 and sell if necess (Raskin) or assess if worth keeping (Soutts and Tav for eg) to get out rut if people leaving in droves for %^*& all.
 
If Propper is out of contract in 2026 why did we pay a reported 1.2m for a defender on a 2 year deal ?
It was a release clause in his contract that was due to expire, not sure why we only gave him a two year deal other than we had reservations about how he would do here - very strange deal for a starting centre half. But for once, we are not talking about a player overstaying their welcome on a long deal.
 
If Propper is out of contract in 2026 why did we pay a reported 1.2m for a defender on a 2 year deal ?
Would guess that at his age there is little to no return, so give him 2 years and don't tie us into a longer deal. 2 years of him and hopefully nsiala and maybe another this summer can mean he would be phased out anyway.
 
I think we'll sell Tav in the summer. All players out on loan should be sold too, hopefully generate more of a budget. Release Lawrence and offer Balogun another year as backup.

Wages for all those should cover two quality additions.

New contracts needed for Hagi, Raskin, Rice and Souttar.

Desperately need a solid centre half and a playmaker. All budget should go towards them and securing Cerny permanent. Anyone of value who is sold will need replaced.

Massively relying on youth to step up so that there's depth in the squad as we can't afford to use the market.
 
Raskin's contract is up 2027.

This summer Balogun and Lawrence are free to go. Hagi I would try to keep, but not at star player wages.

Rafa joined Lille for 2m, so I assume the option is in that range, he either shows us he's worth that in 5 months or he doesn't.

As for 26 I would move Tav on in the summer, I doubt we'd get much of a fee, but it would be a big wage saving. Souttar can go this summer if he's not signed a new deal, he's a solid player for us to have, and I think our only outfield HG player at the minute in the UEL squad (not counting the b-list) Propper, I would attempt to sell.

So if I am preparing for the summer, I am looking for:

Tav replacement
At least one starting CB (at least one of Souttar or Propper will go)
Project CB (to replace Balogun, or Rafa)
Left winger (we're light there, Hagi might go, Cortes becomes the backup and hopefully proves his fitness)
Right winger (could be Cerny if the price is right.)

Then anything else is 1 in, 1 out. I'd love to sell Dessers, Ridvan, Danilo and Sterling and replace them with more robust or consistent players. Then accept huge bits for Hamza and Jefte, but that's too much for one window.
 
Raskin's contract is up 2027.

This summer Balogun and Lawrence are free to go. Hagi I would try to keep, but not at star player wages.

Rafa joined Lille for 2m, so I assume the option is in that range, he either shows us he's worth that in 5 months or he doesn't.

As for 26 I would move Tav on in the summer, I doubt we'd get much of a fee, but it would be a big wage saving. Souttar can go this summer if he's not signed a new deal, he's a solid player for us to have, and I think our only outfield HG player at the minute in the UEL squad (not counting the b-list) Propper, I would attempt to sell.

So if I am preparing for the summer, I am looking for:

Tav replacement
At least one starting CB (at least one of Souttar or Propper will go)
Project CB (to replace Balogun, or Rafa)
Left winger (we're light there, Hagi might go, Cortes becomes the backup and hopefully proves his fitness)
Right winger (could be Cerny if the price is right.)

Then anything else is 1 in, 1 out. I'd love to sell Dessers, Ridvan, Danilo and Sterling and replace them with more robust or consistent players. Then accept huge bits for Hamza and Jefte, but that's too much for one window.

Souttar has been our best defender this season until his injury. Due to the HG status as well he should stay. There’s not another Scottish CB that I would replace him with.
 
Really Hamza is the big part of the summer for me.

If he has a good 4 months left of the season and very high bids come in he could really give us a fair chunk of money to the rebuild we are currently in. I love Hamza but if the right bid comes in then its for the better of the club.

Then the likes of Jefte, Ridvan and Dio if they attract bids can help with tying folk down such as Raskin, Rice and Souttar.
 
We've had to play Tavernier, King and Sterling at CB as a result of injuries. . There is no way Balogun should be given a new deal. I can't remember the last appearance he made without having to come off injured then resulting in him missing matches.

We cannot continue to carry injury prone players.

Lawrence will hopefully be released. Then we should be looking to sell Ridvan and Dessers.

Dowell, Matondo, Cifuentes and Matondo will return, hopefully we aren't trying all summer to offload them.

We'll lose Černý.

If it's one out, one in then we are in for a long summer which will hamper our chances at the start of the season.

We lack quality, strength and depth in so many areas.
 
It’s depressing as f*ck to think that even after all this we have another summer rebuild on our hands, with a revolving door of needing to get players out then bring some in. No guarantees that the high earners out on loan the now will be easy to shift either.

Do we have an option on Fernandes? Hopefully he does well enough that we secure him permanently, along with Nsiala and a new contract for Souttar we’re then maybe only looking at the one CB required (if we don’t take up the option on Propper)
 
We’re losing Balogun and Lawrence anyway. I’m not sure we’ll come to an agreement with Hagi over a new deal or stretch to whatever Cerny’s fee is likely to be. So that’s four players straight off the bat that we’ll likely lose.

Then you have the possibility of Dessers and Yilmaz moving on, and that’s before you get to any bids we may not be able to turn down for the likes of Igamane or Jefte.

So we could be looking at having to replace six or seven players, most of them starters.

Do we then end up in another cycle of having to let new recruits bed in, build up understandings and automatism, etc?

As said previously, I have a lot of sympathy for what Clement had to deal with this season, but the wider support aren’t going to buy the time excuse for a second successive season if we don’t hit the ground running after the summer.

It’s shaping up to be an even more crucial window than last year’s.
 
I can't see the summer being any different to be honest. We have Matondo, Dowell Davies and Cifu to return and permanently injured players such as Sterling, Ridvan and Cortes taking a hefty wage.
 
Of the good guys, sadly think we have to look to wave bye to Tav and Butland as well.

I love Tav, but it goes against the model to have a declining asset picking up £30k a week.

For Butland, just not sure he deserves the premium in wages based on performances in the last 9 months. £30-40k a week - not sure he’s contributing that and would the drop off to a £5-10k Kelly really be that huge across a season? Even a replacement at £15-20k - that’s a huge swing.

FWIW, not sure either command much of a fee, if any, so it would all be wage savings.
 
I think we'll sell Tav in the summer. All players out on loan should be sold too, hopefully generate more of a budget. Release Lawrence and offer Balogun another year as backup.

Wages for all those should cover two quality additions.

New contracts needed for Hagi, Raskin, Rice and Souttar.

Desperately need a solid centre half and a playmaker. All budget should go towards them and securing Cerny permanent. Anyone of value who is sold will need replaced.

Massively relying on youth to step up so that there's depth in the squad as we can't afford to use the market.

Don’t disagree.
 
Our ability to rebuild in the summer will likely hinge on whether Igamane goes (and for how much) and whether we can get rid of Dowell, Davies, Matondo, Cifuentes etc on permanent deals.
 
Sell:

Davies
Matondo
Dowell
Cifuentes
Ridvan
Dessers
Butland
Propper
Bajrami

Other than that, only sell a regular first team starter like Raskin or Igamane if the offer is too good to refuse. (I'd actually try get Raskin on a new deal).

I also think Tavernier will see out his contract / career with us. I reckon his seamless transition into centre half recently will have given him more time with us, now that he's got an extra position under his belt, if it's required.
 
Stevie Clifford spoke on Hagi situation on rangers review this morning.

We can’t afford to trigger the option for another year as too big wages.

So we are trying to negotiate but ianis will be able to get a much bigger deal elsewhere
 
So we have

Davies, Matondo, Dowell and cifuentes as senior squad returnees from loan.

We lose Cerny, Kasa (I know he’s gone now), Rafa

OOC

Leon B, Lawrence, Devine (I know on loan), Hagi

In Lyall C is replacement for Lawrence I’d say?

26 Summer OOC

Tav, Rice, Raskin, Souttar, Propper

Still a lot of work to do before any sales (Yilmaz, Dessers, Hamza and Jefte likely to attract bids)

Prob missed a couple but we need to look ahead those OOC in 26 and sell if necess (Raskin) or assess if worth keeping (Soutts and Tav for eg) to get out rut if people leaving in droves for %^*& all.
Cerny is by far the player I would be doing everything to somehow find the money to tie him down. He’s unplayable at times when he’s on it and causes defences all sorts of bother and really solved our long term RW attack problems.
 
1 player id love us to at least inquire about is Leandro Paredes from Roma.
Seen it suggested on here last week i think it was.
Think his contact is about to expire.
Cracking player estimated at 5m market value.
Imagine a midfield of Paredes & Raskin.

EDIT: Probably no chance but can only dream B-)
 
1 player id love us to at least inquire about is Leandro Paredes from Roma.
Seen it suggested on here last week i think it was.
Think his contact is about to expire.
Cracking player estimated at 5m market value.
Imagine a midfield of Paredes & Raskin.

EDIT: Probably no chance but can only dream B-)

He’s going back to boca
 
Stevie Clifford spoke on Hagi situation on rangers review this morning.

We can’t afford to trigger the option for another year as too big wages.

So we are trying to negotiate but ianis will be able to get a much bigger deal elsewhere
On current form offering Hagi enough to trigger the extension should be a no brainer, relatively high earners are fine as long as they are contributing. Hagi has been one of our most productive since coming back into the squad. It'll cost just as much to replace him.
 
On current form offering Hagi enough to trigger the extension should be a no brainer, relatively high earners are fine as long as they are contributing. Hagi has been one of our most productive since coming back into the squad. It'll cost just as much to replace him.

What if the extension is £30k a week?
 
It’s depressing as f*ck to think that even after all this we have another summer rebuild on our hands, with a revolving door of needing to get players out then bring some in. No guarantees that the high earners out on loan the now will be easy to shift either.

Do we have an option on Fernandes? Hopefully he does well enough that we secure him permanently, along with Nsiala and a new contract for Souttar we’re then maybe only looking at the one CB required (if we don’t take up the option on Propper)
Do we?

I'm not so sure I'd categorise it that way at all.
 
Of the good guys, sadly think we have to look to wave bye to Tav and Butland as well.

I love Tav, but it goes against the model to have a declining asset picking up £30k a week.

For Butland, just not sure he deserves the premium in wages based on performances in the last 9 months. £30-40k a week - not sure he’s contributing that and would the drop off to a £5-10k Kelly really be that huge across a season? Even a replacement at £15-20k - that’s a huge swing.

FWIW, not sure either command much of a fee, if any, so it would all be wage savings.

The new wage structure could see 6 or 7 players come in with the wages of Tav and Butland and give us much more VFM in terms of what we get on the park and future sale value.

Though I'd be fine with Tav staying until his contracts done tbh. After a shaky start to the season I think he's actually been playing very well for the most part. I'd even be open to an extension, on vastly reduced wages, if his fitness is still up to it.
 
Let all the senior loan players leave the club. Release Lawrence, Balogun and Devine. Sign Hagi on an extension at all costs. Offer Souttar and Raskin new deals. See how Fernandes does before we commit.

Try and find a buyer for Butland, Dessers, Yilmaz and Tav if we can get good money.

That’s what I’d do with the current players.
 
No player is worth 30k a week in Scotland. It's why we end up having problems shifting players as they won't get a bigger deal elsewhere.
There are players worth 30k a week in Scotland we cant afford to sign them though thats the difference, whatever happens in the summer the cost cutting must end we need quality players added to each area of the team sadly i think the board cant provide that though without selling Igamane for a good fee
 
There are players worth 30k a week in Scotland we cant afford to sign them though thats the difference, whatever happens in the summer the cost cutting must end we need quality players added to each area of the team sadly i think the board cant provide that though without selling Igamane for a good fee

The cost cutting won't end. There is still massive wastage on wages.
 
The cost cutting won't end. There is still massive wastage on wages.
We've already cut about £6m, the aim was £10m and to be honest we will barely notice any difference.

Don't know why people are catastrophising like this summer will be as challenging as next summer.

It won't be.
 
GK - Butland* / Kelly / Munn

RB - New / Tav / Sterling
CB - Souttar / Propper
CB - New / Nsiala
LB - Jefte / New

CM - Raskin / New / Rice
CM - Diomande / New / Barron

RF - New / New / Hagi
AM - New / Bajrami / Cameron
LF - New / Cortes / Curtis

ST - Igamane / Danilo / New



Probably about 10 or so needed in but at least 7 need to be of starting quality.

That still gives a squad of around 30 including the prospects.

I’m not including Fernandes for now but if he is a success I still don’t see a scenario where we don’t need at least one commanding CB.

Out - Balogun, Yilmaz, Dessers, McAusland, King, Matondo, Cifuentes, Dowell, Davies, Lawrence
 
GK - Butland* / Kelly / Munn

RB - New / Tav / Sterling
CB - Souttar / Propper
CB - New / Nsiala
LB - Jefte / New

CM - Raskin / New / Rice
CM - Diomande / New / Barron

RF - New / New / Hagi
AM - New / Bajrami / Cameron
LF - New / Cortes / Curtis

ST - Igamane / Danilo / New



Probably about 10 or so needed in but at least 7 need to be of starting quality.

That still gives a squad of around 30 including the prospects.

I’m not including Fernandes for now but if he is a success I still don’t see a scenario where we don’t need at least one commanding CB.

Out - Balogun, Yilmaz, Dessers, McAusland, King, Matondo, Cifuentes, Dowell, Davies, Lawrence
There is no reality in which we sign 10 players. Even in Beales overspending window or Gios post Seville we never signed that many. Those that are hoping for that are going to be hugely disappointed the same way they were the last few windows!

Everything we have seen points towards us going for a squad of 20odd players supplemented by youth. 30 is far too many and unsustainable. I agree with you on the players that need to go, but I think all can go and only Yilmaz and Dessers we need to actually replace out of them.

Left winger, centre midfielder, defender (assuming that’s not Fernandes), back up right back (or replacement for Tav). That’s the four positions we need. After that I wouldn’t be unhappy replaceming Yilma, Dessers, Butland and maybe even Danilo if we can find a buyer.

But it will be one out one in NOT including the loan boys IMO.
 
Do we?

I'm not so sure I'd categorise it that way at all.

Maybe being dramatic using the word rebuild but we are looking at another summer where in order to compete next year we will need to be very active in the transfer market.

We will have 4 senior players (Matondo, Dowell, Davies and Cifuentes) to try and shift and 2 (Balogun and Lawrence) leaving at the end of their deals. Possibly Hagi aswell if he doesn’t extend. So that is atleast 7 out before you possibly try and move on Dessers, Yilmaz etc.

Cerny will also be leaving and if we are honest we are unlikely to be able to afford the outlay of signing him next year. I reckon at the very minimum we will need 5 in to at the very least provide cover and competition for places in the squad
 
No player is worth 30k a week in Scotland. It's why we end up having problems shifting players as they won't get a bigger deal elsewhere.
Hagi's numbers since coming back into the team are, for me, proof is and can be an asset going forward. Hes already proven at SPFL level. It'd be more cost effective to given him an improved deal than going back to the market for a cheap transfer fee low wage player who might, or might not, work out. His versatility also means you can run with a leaner squad as he can cover 3 positions.
 
On current form he'd be worth that for a season imo. For comparison that's what Lawrence is currently earning while contributing almost nothing.

Two wrongs shouldn’t make a right. Lawrence’s wage is frankly disgusting.

I really like an inform Hagi. I think it’s a shame the way it’s played out.

I think as we move forward, we can likely carry four heavy hitters.

CD
CM
AM
CF

There is maybe an argument for one more floater type. A Tav, for example.

Would Hagi be your Cerny for next season, for example?

Just not sure he’s productive enough to grab that tag and be that top 4-5 earner.
 
I appreciate money is tight.
However if we go into next season without Cerny and Hagi we can forget about building a team to challenge the scum. These 2 signed and Raskin extended must be our priority.
We now have a great group of young players but need these 3 .
 
I think we'll sell Tav in the summer. All players out on loan should be sold too, hopefully generate more of a budget. Release Lawrence and offer Balogun another year as backup.

Wages for all those should cover two quality additions.

New contracts needed for Hagi, Raskin, Rice and Souttar.

Desperately need a solid centre half and a playmaker. All budget should go towards them and securing Cerny permanent. Anyone of value who is sold will need replaced.

Massively relying on youth to step up so that there's depth in the squad as we can't afford to use the market.
And how do you know we can't use the market ?.
 
And how do you know we can't use the market ?.

Clement told us.

It's pretty obvious, severe mismanagement and lack of vision at board level since 2021 has ruined our playing squad.

We now must create assets through the youth system or unearth gems like Igamane or Diomande.

Filling the squad with expensive duds like Dowell, Matondo, Davies, Cifuentes and Lammers just isn't affordable.
 
Of the good guys, sadly think we have to look to wave bye to Tav and Butland as well.

I love Tav, but it goes against the model to have a declining asset picking up £30k a week.

For Butland, just not sure he deserves the premium in wages based on performances in the last 9 months. £30-40k a week - not sure he’s contributing that and would the drop off to a £5-10k Kelly really be that huge across a season? Even a replacement at £15-20k - that’s a huge swing.

FWIW, not sure either command much of a fee, if any, so it would all be wage savings.
Cracking post..
 
We've had to play Tavernier, King and Sterling at CB as a result of injuries. . There is no way Balogun should be given a new deal. I can't remember the last appearance he made without having to come off injured then resulting in him missing matches.

We cannot continue to carry injury prone players.

Lawrence will hopefully be released. Then we should be looking to sell Ridvan and Dessers.

Dowell, Matondo, Cifuentes and Matondo will return, hopefully we aren't trying all summer to offload them.

We'll lose Černý.

If it's one out, one in then we are in for a long summer which will hamper our chances at the start of the season.

We lack quality, strength and depth in so many areas.
I honestly think the Summer window will be as challenging as the previous one.
We really have made a huge hole for ourselves.
Ideally all those on loan will be punted.
We should be looking to offload Tavernier, Dessers and Yilmaz.
Lawrence and Balogun should be thanked for their service.
It's certainly going to be a busy Summer.
 
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