Ponientebear
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We brought in a CM (Hagi) and have played him mostly as a right winger.
Just one of the things Gerrard’s got wrong.
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Just one of the things Gerrard’s got wrong.
Necro
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Our option to buy is exclusive, they're not allowed to accept other bids
Necro
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Hagi isn't and never has been a CM
Ponientebear
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That’s like wanting a Porsche but settling for a Lada.
gersfanal
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I understand that but if we didn't offer him enough in terms of salary he wouldn't have to sign !
Ponientebear
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Really, so he’s a right winger then.
The Drifter
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I can understand not getting the Porsche though.
Club Deck Pakora
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Yes he’s the one. Not seen much of him to be fair but I’d never judge any player based on what a Kilmarnock fan says. He’s looked good against us this season.
Necro
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He's a number 10 and has been playing as one, he's on the right of our press out of possession and otherwise pretty much has a free role.
If you're going to slag Gerrard, don't be wrong in literally all of your points mate
Jjbscotty
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No he’s a number 10 much like mesut ozil is never a CM.
Necro
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That's more than likely already been agreed, don't panic lol
Ponientebear
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Ah so a number 10 is a new modern football term for a CM, if I’m misunderstanding this number 10 role and it’s some sort of position playing just off the main striker then I can categorically say he is not being played that way, if your going to take a point about Gerrard personally then stick me on ignore, too many cry babies on here when it comes to him.
Necro
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Number 10 isn't a modern football term at all mate lol.
An out and out central midfielder has equal responsibility in attack and defense, a number 10 has far less responsibility off the ball
I'd say 1/3rd and that's without a player sale.
UpperCanadianLoyal
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I think we need better strength in depth. Too much of a drop off in quality Outside of the first 11 or 12.
Especially at full back. Full backs are key in our system of play, but we fall apart without Tavernier or Barasic. Halliday and Flanagan just won't cut it.
Hagi looks like a cert to be signed as well, which is good news.
Our squad is still young and with lots of potential, so lots to be positive about.
Especially at full back. Full backs are key in our system of play, but we fall apart without Tavernier or Barasic. Halliday and Flanagan just won't cut it.
Hagi looks like a cert to be signed as well, which is good news.
Our squad is still young and with lots of potential, so lots to be positive about.
Ponientebear
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Everything you have described about this number ten position is not the way we’re playing Haji, infact playing somebody just behind Morelos would improve his game and most certainly improve our attacking side of the game, how hard is it for you to understand this.
KGR98
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Morelos Borna Goldson and Kamara are all integral players in our squad probably let 1 maybe 2 go at a push but 4 would require too much of a rebuild
Necro
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That is how we're playing Hagi, he does no defensive work at all once our press is beaten.
A number 10 doesn't play just off the striker either.
"How hard is it for you to understand" is extremely rich coming from someone with a lack of basic football knowledge mate lol
WATP
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We need to cash in on some of our squad Morelos, Goldson, Barisic and Tav could be at their peak in terms of value for us Kamara too! Selling them after this Euro run could be the best option for the long term aims of the club and will enable us to find some real leaders that improve isn’t still further!
ekbear98
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As in Danel sinani from dudelange?
Fernando26
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We need an out and out right sided winger so we can change formation and properly stretch teams.
We need a LB as cover. I’d probably move one of the CB’s on and replace him with another. And another striker.
We also need to think about a replacement for mcgregor soon too.
We need a LB as cover. I’d probably move one of the CB’s on and replace him with another. And another striker.
We also need to think about a replacement for mcgregor soon too.
If you take the summer past we spent 10 million on Helander and Kent alone.Add in the fridge (750k) and Aribo's alledged fee including agents' costs (2m) plus fee's for Barker(200k) and Hastie (250k) and we spent in the region of 12 million after a season failing to get out of the Europa group stages or selling a player for any meaningful kind of money.
We could potentially sell Morelos,Kamara and Barasic and pocket the guts of between forty and fifty million quid should the latter two have a good Euros in the summer.
Give SG half of that and we could sign a lot of quality if Hagi is a guide to go by at all.
HandsomeHead
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Regardless of whether Morelos stays or goes, I think we need to target another quality striker.
We need to have the option of two up top against the ten man defence outfits and I’m not sure Kamberi has the quality to do it over a whole season while Defoe can’t seemingly play alongside Alfie and at 38 isn’t someone we should be relying on much longer anyway.
We need to have the option of two up top against the ten man defence outfits and I’m not sure Kamberi has the quality to do it over a whole season while Defoe can’t seemingly play alongside Alfie and at 38 isn’t someone we should be relying on much longer anyway.
CaptainCourageous
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Is Robbie McCrorie coming back as a number 2 or does he go out on loan for a full season at a top division club? I'd say the latter. He's performing at Livingston and needs regular first team football. He's aiming for the number 1 spot going into 21/22.
Foderingham will likely go so a number 2 is required over the summer.
I know Gerrard likes his, two man for every spot, but he rarely uses some of them and the squad can be trimmed down. The stage we are at, we need better than a bloated squad full of players we are rarely ever going to call on - we need quality over quantity.
As others have said previously - poster MSF first touched on it a few weeks ago - we could be doing with adding to the midfield and bringing in the man to succeed Steven Davis, who like it or not is getting on and won't play every game at the age of 36 as the business end of the season approaches next season. Kamara maybe off too so there is a replacement required.
Summer of 2020 is massive as we head into a season where we simply must deliver domestically.
Foderingham will likely go so a number 2 is required over the summer.
I know Gerrard likes his, two man for every spot, but he rarely uses some of them and the squad can be trimmed down. The stage we are at, we need better than a bloated squad full of players we are rarely ever going to call on - we need quality over quantity.
As others have said previously - poster MSF first touched on it a few weeks ago - we could be doing with adding to the midfield and bringing in the man to succeed Steven Davis, who like it or not is getting on and won't play every game at the age of 36 as the business end of the season approaches next season. Kamara maybe off too so there is a replacement required.
Summer of 2020 is massive as we head into a season where we simply must deliver domestically.
Portals_Bear_Blue
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Agree with all of this
Leith Ger
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Looks like another busy summer. We still have a lot we need to clear out but don’t think anywhere near as many signings are required as in last 2 seasons. Needs to be quality over quantity this season.
End of contract: Foderingham, Alnwick, Halliday, Flanagan, Holt, Rossiter
End of Loan: Ojo, Kamberi
Sell: Barker, Jones, Middleton, Barjonas
Sell if Decent Offer: Kamara, Docherty
Loan Out: McCrorie (GK), Polster, Hastie, Kelly (would like to see all 4 get SPFL loan)
Loans (Sign Permanently): Hagi
Loan Return & Keep: Ross McCrorie, Murphy
The above leaves in the squad before signings as:
McGregor, Tavernier, Patterson, Goldson, Katic, Helander, Edmundson, Barisic, Jack, McCrorie, Davis, Arfield, Aribo, Hagi, Stewart, Kent, Murphy, Morelos, Defoe
Sign: 1xGK (loan), 1xLB, 1xCM, 1xRAM, 1xLAM, 1xFW
End of contract: Foderingham, Alnwick, Halliday, Flanagan, Holt, Rossiter
End of Loan: Ojo, Kamberi
Sell: Barker, Jones, Middleton, Barjonas
Sell if Decent Offer: Kamara, Docherty
Loan Out: McCrorie (GK), Polster, Hastie, Kelly (would like to see all 4 get SPFL loan)
Loans (Sign Permanently): Hagi
Loan Return & Keep: Ross McCrorie, Murphy
The above leaves in the squad before signings as:
McGregor, Tavernier, Patterson, Goldson, Katic, Helander, Edmundson, Barisic, Jack, McCrorie, Davis, Arfield, Aribo, Hagi, Stewart, Kent, Murphy, Morelos, Defoe
Sign: 1xGK (loan), 1xLB, 1xCM, 1xRAM, 1xLAM, 1xFW
Ted Rangers
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If it makes it easier to understand, see Messi playing for Barcelona. Clearly he is not playing right wing, however generally wanders out that way and his responsibility in the press is on that side. We don't play wingers, which is obviously causing problems for Kent, but that's another story. Our width comes from full backs. Hagi is not what we currently call a centre midfielder, however the position probably was called midfield in the days of maradona etc. Either way, Hagi has been playing in his position in a system that he likes, and actually spoke about this as part of the reason he wanted to play for us.
Ted Rangers
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It appears that Ross Wilson is a major step up from our previous recruitment specialist. So far he has got rid of some hefty wages and replaced them with players who have had a real effect on the team. Loans for Docherty to Hibs and McCorie to Livingston make sense. If he has the resources I'm confident he can really improve us in the summer. The Vydra deal falling through was extremely unfortunate too, would have been a good move.
KirkwallTrueBlue
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Very much doubt Murphy will ever pull on a Rangers jersey again
Leith Ger
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Probably not but even after hardly playing for 18 months he appears to be showing more than the likes of Barker & Ojo have. I’d give him pre-season and make a call.
I would hope Ross McCrorie,Docherty and Murphy would all at least be looked at in the summer before any decision is made.All having pretty successful loan spells and there's an argument they should be here instead of the likes of Barker,Jones,Ojo,Flanagan in particular in the squad.
KirkwallTrueBlue
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I'd like to think he'd at least get a pre season however he has been outstanding for Burton Albion so far, clubs down there will be watching his situation, only got 12 months left on his current contract, funny feeling we will cash in and he will stay down south where he is getting regular game time, he's 30 now and wont want to be sitting in the stands or on the pine week in week out. Just my thoughts but wish him well in his fight for a jersey given the chance.
Leith Ger
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Yeah, that definitely seems likely.
We need to start thinking about who replaces McGregor in the long term. Could t be young Robbie? Do we need to buy someone. Newcastle picked their keeper up for a few million and he's very good so bargains to be had.
Tav has actually been way better at defending this season young boys away apart but goals and assists have dried up. Do we cash in on him or keep? Decent player but has value and question is who would replace him at right back and captain?
Barisic - I'd keep if others are sold to fund upgrades elsewhere. Classy and showed his worth particularly in Europe but still think more to come from him if we don't sell.
Katic - has had some great games and some awful ones but is young and can improve. I'd keep.
Goldson - is better than is given credit for and has had some excellent games with an odd bad one. Would cost plenty to replace properly.
Edmondson - young and full of promise and could be brilliant in long term so keep.
Helander - cost plenty, looked good in Europe not so good v Dykes. I think Gerrard rates him so he will be kept.
Davis - deent still despite age. One more year perhaps but then what? Doc? McCrory? Sign someone else?
Jack - keep. Cant see us wanting to part with RJ and rightly so.
Kamara - on his day can be excellent but may be sold if right bid received as is still sought by a few down south so who knows.
Arfield - has been excellent of late and is of an age where no one will pay big money so keep him for a year or two.
Kent - will be kept and on his game can be great. Needs to do it more and maybe others will be interested. Cant see us selling.
Barker - allegedly excellent in training but not seen much in games but would anyone buy?
Stewart - looks good when given a chance but not given enough chances. Useful to have but will he accept bit part role. Could have a bit of value but not silly sums.
Defoe - 1 more year maximum despite being great finisher.
Morelos - great player but a distraction and sideshow at times and target for bigots racists and refs. Can see us cashing in and moving on sadly but only if the price is correct. Who replaces him?
Hagi - buy if he keeps up his excellent play..
Docherty - showing up well for Hibs. Will he get a chance back with us?
Tav has actually been way better at defending this season young boys away apart but goals and assists have dried up. Do we cash in on him or keep? Decent player but has value and question is who would replace him at right back and captain?
Barisic - I'd keep if others are sold to fund upgrades elsewhere. Classy and showed his worth particularly in Europe but still think more to come from him if we don't sell.
Katic - has had some great games and some awful ones but is young and can improve. I'd keep.
Goldson - is better than is given credit for and has had some excellent games with an odd bad one. Would cost plenty to replace properly.
Edmondson - young and full of promise and could be brilliant in long term so keep.
Helander - cost plenty, looked good in Europe not so good v Dykes. I think Gerrard rates him so he will be kept.
Davis - deent still despite age. One more year perhaps but then what? Doc? McCrory? Sign someone else?
Jack - keep. Cant see us wanting to part with RJ and rightly so.
Kamara - on his day can be excellent but may be sold if right bid received as is still sought by a few down south so who knows.
Arfield - has been excellent of late and is of an age where no one will pay big money so keep him for a year or two.
Kent - will be kept and on his game can be great. Needs to do it more and maybe others will be interested. Cant see us selling.
Barker - allegedly excellent in training but not seen much in games but would anyone buy?
Stewart - looks good when given a chance but not given enough chances. Useful to have but will he accept bit part role. Could have a bit of value but not silly sums.
Defoe - 1 more year maximum despite being great finisher.
Morelos - great player but a distraction and sideshow at times and target for bigots racists and refs. Can see us cashing in and moving on sadly but only if the price is correct. Who replaces him?
Hagi - buy if he keeps up his excellent play..
Docherty - showing up well for Hibs. Will he get a chance back with us?
I think Morelos,Barasic and Kamara will be our most sellable assets in the summer mate.
The age and lack of international exposure will limit Tav's value so won't be worth our while to sell him.
Barker and Jones will surely go in some form or another,feel for Stewart who has surprised me with how good he's been despite his limited gametime.
Personally I'd keep Ross,Docherty and Murphy but SG doesn't seem to be a fan sadly.
Robbie McCrorie should be no. 2 next season imo,he looks ready to step up.
Radgey
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I think we need to start from the back.Goldson had the game of his life against Braga but can he produce that form consistantly in the league.Edmundson looks solid and has a lot to learn at such a young age but hes deffo one to hold on.Mccrorie has done very well down south likewise jaime murphy.I think we need to sign hagi at all costs.hes not the quickest but i see him playing in middle of the park and carving up chances and finishes gascoignesque.
id want kamberi aswell,hes can hold the ball up(which we deffo need with our big punts up the field by greegsy wen he could play the easy pass but thats a diff thead)and not afraid to take a dig.
Where does this McCrorie has done very well down south come from? He's on the bench anytime I look.
KirkwallTrueBlue
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Very fair assessment, no doubt Ross Wilson and his team will be doing their homework, I've think this summer will be busy with comings and goings, January and February's form will be at the hierarchies forethought's moving forward regarding comings and goings, it would not surprise me if a few more Hagi style signings took place, in that I mean totally out of the blue names that no one expects but I'm expecting 2 or 3 high quality signings over the line, I think Kamara, Alfie and maybe Goldson will be sold, big Wes will say cheerio unfortunately and so will a few fringe players with contracts up etc, Docherty and McCrorie are must stays IMO given their age and potential, madness to let them go, young Fleck at Sheffield Utd is proof what young talent from our youth can become. Interesting summer but between now and then I'd like to see the whole squad build on Braga performance starting tonight with no let's up's, take the rest of the domestic games by the jugular.
Started ten games and came off the bench several times,got injured a while back so been a bit stop/start but apparently he's started to settle according to a few who've seen him at games.
giogaddi
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He hasn't been playing right wing. Do you even watch us?
