Sunderland til I die Series 2 Wednesday 1/4

KGR98

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I bet when Jack Ross found out how much they actually spent he must have though “are you off you fucking head” after telling him don’t go higher than 1.5 million
That's the moment where the whole thing went up in smoke you need to trust the manager in this situation but he got caught up in the deadline day drama and made a lady's front bottom ae it no way back for him or Jack Ross at that point
 

Geerfc19

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Do their fans only ever sing one song?

Donalds demeanor when they lost at wembley was of a man that knew he just lost out on millions

Something no right with that man. Think it's his eyes. He looks shady
 

Yer da

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Just finished watching it. So many similarities between us and them in recent years.

The woman at the end asking "Why is it never us celebrating?"
 

SouthLDNBear

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Felt rushed compared to season one. They crammed so much in to so few episodes.

Absolute let down for me, didnt get into the nuts and bolts of it beyond making the director Charlie look like a right cùnt and their chairman being a fat wide boy amateur hour prat.

Fùck mcgeady an all the desperate dan chinned cùnt
 

Echo_1

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An absolute car crash of a club. It makes good viewing though to be fair.

I wonder if there was a 3rd season planned, they're 7th in the league just now so you could only imagine what's going on behind the scenes. :))
 

basiltherat

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Watched it but thought it was a bit disappointing compared to first season
The new owners had me convinced by the end they were genuine but clearly didn't have the necessary cash but still wanted to hang on to control. Moot point but I certainly wouldn't be investing after seeing how they dealt with the Griggs negotiations
I thought Jack Ross was harshly dealt with. He was a penalty kick away from promotion. A very narrow margin. Think they might have been better sticking with him but of course I didn't see the whole season
 

jay662

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Basket case of a club and a few shame for the fans. Had to laugh when they said the checkertrade trophy would be shown all around the world .

To speak about having that many outgoings and spunk the money on Will Grigg is shocking. I had to google where they are and not doing great this season! Must be some amount of cuts going on.
 

rangeral

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Howling at the Grigg signing. 3m rising to 4m when told not to pay over 1.25m. Then to add insult, it’s revealed later on they are paying him 50k a week. Utterly bonkers.
Grigg is on 50k a week? Surely not.
Mentions later on there paying a player 50k for 3 years with an option of 4 not long after the Grigg signing. Going by Sunderland’s expenditure on wages it doesn’t seem that ridiculous. To them.
Would be very surprised that was the case maybe McGeady as he signed a 3 deal in 2017 and later agreed a 1 extension taking him to 2020/21

He along with Lee Cattermole and Bryan Oviedo were the remaining high earners in the summer of 2018

Cattermole signed for Venlo in the Netherlands and Oviedo signed for Copenhagen last summer

McGeady is still a Sunderland player but is on loan at Charlton
 

rangeral

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Basket case of a club and a few shame for the fans. Had to laugh when they said the checkertrade trophy would be shown all around the world .

To speak about having that many outgoings and spunk the money on Will Grigg is shocking. I had to google where they are and not doing great this season! Must be some amount of cuts going on.
Given the broadcast deals that EFL do are far better than the SPFL then yes it would shown in a number of countries around the world
 

KGR98

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Basket case of a club and a few shame for the fans. Had to laugh when they said the checkertrade trophy would be shown all around the world .

To speak about having that many outgoings and spunk the money on Will Grigg is shocking. I had to google where they are and not doing great this season! Must be some amount of cuts going on.
They were 6th this season I think and that Charlie guy left the board in December but retained his 5% stake Stewart Donald wants to sell up and expects a sale soon even with all the COVID-19 uncertainty going on
 

Southside_shug

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Was watching this with my son on Friday.

Called Methven right away as being an out and out bellend.

BUT

He had a job to do with a club spending £20m a year more than they had (where did their parachute payment from the EPL go to?). They said at the end that they were breaking even which was an achievement since they wasted that money on Grigg!!

The support staff were an absolute abortion and should have been heaved as soon as they took over
 

pandager1

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Was watching this with my son on Friday.

Called Methven right away as being an out and out bellend.

BUT

He had a job to do with a club spending £20m a year more than they had (where did their parachute payment from the EPL go to?). They said at the end that they were breaking even which was an achievement since they wasted that money on Grigg!!

The support staff were an absolute abortion and should have been heaved as soon as they took over
Agreed, he was spot on in his observations about the culture at the club. Lazy, uninspired, comfortable losing millions and reliant on a sugar daddy.
 

Flying Fullback

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They could only sell 25k for a playoff game against Portsmouth. We were getting that when we were boycotting

I feel for the fans. And we know how they feel more than probably anyone else. But they are not a 'huge' club with a 'huge' support.
Season ticket holders didn't get that match for free which must have affected the numbers a fair bit.
 

Steve Snedden

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It wasn't as entertaining as the first series.

I don't think Methven came out of it that badly. Any Executive putting themselves in front of the cameras is always going to look a bit of a dick. He wasn't as bad as Bain.

I thought the 4k football picture was excellent. Better than BT Sport.
 

SSR

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Second series not as good as first.

Don't feel there is any need for a third :))
 

Sjbaxter77

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Cringeworthy, I currently live in Durham & alot of my friends are Sunderland fans. I even had the misfortune to attend their game with the scum a few years ago. Shocking the amount of money wasted there but I would shudder to think of a similar documentary made at Ibrox in previous years
 

Sjbaxter77

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I do feel sorry for Sunderland fans though. They have been mismanaged & these documentaries highlight that. Personally the only other team (apart from Rangers)I have an affection for are Leeds United & they are in the same boat
 

Diego Maradona

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I thoroughly enjoyed it. Love the way 2 rich businessmen think they are so tactically astute.
I went to the Sunderland v Pompey game that featured in the last episode where the flare was thrown from the Pompey fans into the home end. The standard of football was appalling. Charlie is just an English Martin Bain.
 

Molly Sugden's Bridesmaid

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Given the broadcast deals that EFL do are far better than the SPFL then yes it would shown in a number of countries around the world
Yeah, that's probably right. The delusion is thinking that anybody around the world (other than ex-pat Sunderland or Portsmouth supporters) would actually bother to watch it.
 

Hammy

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Just finished the final episode, felt a bit nervous at play off final despite the fact I knew the outcome.

The way they felt at full time reminded me of several games I’ve seen us in over the past few years; Raith Rovers 2014x League Cup final in December, play off final 2005, Scottish Cup 2016 etc. Like us, they’re due some good luck.

Stewart Donald came across very well, an owner just caught up with the emotion of it all and wanted the best for the team. Loved his wife trying to talk him into selling the club and he wasn’t having any of it!
 

gers forever

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One episode in series 2 and the priest who has been in a couple of episodes says we need to get back to where we belong,the championship at best is where you belong.
 

graemeM

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Wigan played the owner like a fiddle over the Will Grigg transfer, despite the manager not being overly keen he went on to spend way over the odds. I felt sorry for the fans, I think the owner was far too naieve, you've got to worry when you see him sitting in with the fans, I get that he wanted to show her was passionate too but I think there needs to be distance.
 

MarkWalters11

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Would love to see the documentry when Dick Advocaat was there, would have been brilliant viewing.
Amazing to see a club this size with such a shambles behind the scenes
 

Ryan1872

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Would be very surprised that was the case maybe McGeady as he signed a 3 deal in 2017 and later agreed a 1 extension taking him to 2020/21

He along with Lee Cattermole and Bryan Oviedo were the remaining high earners in the summer of 2018

Cattermole signed for Venlo in the Netherlands and Oviedo signed for Copenhagen last summer

McGeady is still a Sunderland player but is on loan at Charlton
Could well be they didn’t mention the player.
 

rangeral

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Yeah, that's probably right. The delusion is thinking that anybody around the world (other than ex-pat Sunderland or Portsmouth supporters) would actually bother to watch it.
You will find non fans of the actually teams may watch as strange as it sounds and given the nature of that game a final

There is plenty games on TV that people may find interesting to watch
 

rangeral

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Could well be they didn’t mention the player.
Salford City reportable offered £5k towards his wages to take him on loan in the January window and would doubt that even would touch his basic wages but I don't see £50k also I think in League 1 and 2 there is governance over FFP in the EFL so it was no surprise that club tried to off load the higher earners in Oviedo and Cattermole, McGeady went to Charlton simply because he was out of favour under Phil Parkinson
 

KGR98

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Just imagine something like that behind the scenes at us the past 10 years would make some tv but at the same time I'd be raging
 

Springsteen

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I get he probably wanted nothing to do with the programme and it’s all down to editing, but Jack Ross came across as completely cold and uninspiring. A younger David Moyes.
This is what I took away from this series. Perhaps the editing was unkind but Ross came across as extremely passive on the touchline and too ‘nice’ in general.

Give me a Davie Robertson over his type any day.
 

Aragorn

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Have just finished watching both series’s with my wife who was hooked even though she is a bit Mehh re football.

Thought it was very good and felt sorry for the club and fans that in the two appearances at Wembley they blew it both times.

Aiden McGeady came across as a decent guy who was trying his best in that set up.

Having also watched the Real Kashmir doc. would be interesting to see what Davie Robertson could do at Sunderland if he was given the chance.
 

ScottXC

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Seeing that Charlie guy react at the Checkatrade final in Wembley shows me why I could never be involved in owning a football game in any way shape or form. I'd be sacking the manager on snap decisions like that!

He started off as an ultimate bell end but I actually thought he turned out to be an alright guy towards the end. The marketing team that were featured were chancing bastards, having a meeting, getting nothing from that meeting but to go and have another meeting. Beyond ripping the pish and there was no sympathy in seeing them hooked.

They done a good job in showing the Chefs a few times and how they might be affected by things but would have been good to see a lot more of the daily staff that makes the club work.

A good watch though.
 
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