Bristol_bnose3
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Well its certainly managed to get Rangers supporters talking about racism.I believe they think what they are doing will make some kind of difference. In my opinion it won't.
Well its certainly managed to get Rangers supporters talking about racism.I believe they think what they are doing will make some kind of difference. In my opinion it won't.
I think comments on here make NK look liberal.Rangers already have a policy of banning people for anti-social behaviour, including but not limited to sectarian singing. Do you think Rangers "make NK look liberal"?
Ask them. It's their protest. They are the one's being called ******s and monkeys every dayFew months ago our players gave up doing the knee thing. Publicly dissed it. What's changed that they insist they are doing it again ??
Every day? Exaggerating the problem doesn't help matters.Ask them. It's their protest. They are the one's being called ******s and monkeys every day
Well I hope you'll forgive me for assuming that Tav, Goldson et Al probably don't care about your opinion, especially when you have nothing to contribute by way of an alternative. At the very least, they're exposing a really dark element of our support and this could potentially help rid ourselves of them.I believe they think what they are doing will make some kind of difference. In my opinion it won't.
One minute they are doing it.Ask them. It's their protest. They are the one's being called ******s and monkeys every day
Aye, that's smashing. But it won't solve racism.Well its certainly managed to get Rangers supporters talking about racism.
They are perfectly entitled to ignore my opinion. Just as I am with theirs.Well I hope you'll forgive me for assuming that Tav, Goldson et Al probably don't care about your opinion, especially when you have nothing to contribute by way of an alternative. At the very least, they're exposing a really dark element of our support and this could potentially help rid ourselves of them.
First step is to acknowledge a problem exists.Aye, that's smashing. But it won't solve racism.
Rangers are entitled to stop anyone they want coming to Ibrox, a right they currently exercise. I don't think this means they're behaving like North Korea so I'm not too worried about your slippery slope fallacy.I think comments on here make NK look liberal.
Be careful what you wish for GH.When the same policies that are being advocated for blokes booing are used in other walks of life ,in or outside of football ,I don't think people will be happy
What difference does it make if its every day, every week, or every month?Every day? Exaggerating the problem doesn't help matters.
Fine. "Please try to not be racist" is a bit of an odd opinion to want to ignore but you're free to die on that hill if you want.They are perfectly entitled to ignore my opinion. Just as I am with theirs.
No one is asking you to do anything though. Its their decisionOne minute they are doing it.
Then they stopped doing it saying it's a waste of time.
Now they are doing it again.
Mixed messaging.
Is this happening on social media I take it. The biggest money making platform of faceless cowards.What difference does it make if its every day, every week, or every month?
Human beings in "changing their mind about something" shocker.One minute they are doing it.
Then they stopped doing it saying it's a waste of time.
Now they are doing it again.
Mixed messaging.
And it's absolutely %^*& all to do with them, can't believe the sheer arrogance and self-importance of people who think it is their place to say the players shouldn't be doing it. Truly staggering.Some folk don't like it. That's what.
What difference does it make if its every day, every week, or every month?
'Casual' racism and discrimination goes on every minute of every day in a workplace someplace.Is this happening on social media I take it. The biggest money making platform of faceless cowards.
I think we've acknowledged that ffs. It's been on our screens and every media outlet 24/7 for the last 18 months.First step is to acknowledge a problem exists.
They sated that it was pointless. They sated that they would be stopping taking the knee - and they did for our remaining games last season.No one is asking you to do anything though. Its their decision
GoodI think we've acknowledged that ffs. It's been on our screens and every media outlet 24/7 for the last 18 months.
It's called democracy and freedom of speech.And it's absolutely %^*& all to do with them, can't believe the sheer arrogance and self-importance of people who think it is their place to say the players shouldn't be doing it. Truly staggering.
Brilliant.Good
I can't speak for our BAME players, but obviously they feel its a gesture worth making if other black players in England and clubs across Scotland are continuing to do it.They sated that it was pointless. They sated that they would be stopping taking the knee.
Suddenly they are back doing it. So it is no real surprise that the public out there are wondering why it is still going on - particularly when the players are on record as saying it's just gesture stuff and yields no benefit - which i agree with.
Good job I don't ignore it then.Fine. "Please try to not be racist" is a bit of an odd opinion to want to ignore but you're free to die on that hill if you wawant.
Is it about black power or equality?So ,whilst we are going down the ' educational' path,is it too much to explain to certain people power does not equate to equality?You want teams to ask players to stop protesting in a certain way?
"I know you and many of your colleagues are racially abused almost daily, but can you stop doing the, you know, fist thing? Some people aren't too happy with you showing solidarity with other oppressed people. Thanks. BTW, good session in the gym earlier, keep up the good work"
Fair enough, but its not really your place to tell racially abused sportsmen how to protestIs it about black power or equality?So ,whilst we are going down the ' educational' path,is it too much to explain to certain people power does not equate to equality?
My view ,for what it's worth is I'd rather the players all Linked up and held a kick it out banner up .Like Millwall did.
And for the record,as a English man ,if my team had walked off the pitch as a collective due to booing of black players in some European backwater,I'd back them completely.
I feel they should back their mates .A team doing that will have far more punch than taking the knee
And it's absolutely %^*& all to do with them, can't believe the sheer arrogance and self-importance of people who think it is their place to say the players shouldn't be doing it. Truly staggering.
That's the thing though I bet none of these morons will be folk who log on and debate on FF or listen to the likes of H&H.I've not seen a single poster on this thread say they are planning to boo.
I've worked next to many black people, especially in amazon. Cant say I've witnessed any, in fact people were mixing and getting on well enough.'Casual' racism and discrimination goes on every minute of every day in a workplace someplace.
So no matter what kind of protest they come up with we've just to nod our heads and agree with it?Fair enough, but its not really your place to tell racially abused sportsmen how to protest
It's an empty gesture to most of us as it will never eradicate racism. However if the Rangers players feel it may make a difference, why would anyone with half a brain chose to boo this?If the players want to do it then it's up to them. Any of our own fans booing our players for doing it need to have a word with themselves. Does it make the slightest difference to someone in the stands if a player takes (or chooses not to take) a knee? If you don't agree with the gesture then just ignore it.
Fair enough, but its not really your place to tell racially abused sportsmen how to protest
Indeed, but dont come crying when Rangers are dragged through the gutter, again, because some of our followers have embarrassed themselvesAnd it's not your place to tell fans how to react either
It doesn’t really matter though, does it? If this is how they wish to express themselves then we should support them and have enough respect to quietly observe for all of the five seconds that it takes.One minute they are doing it.
Then they stopped doing it saying it's a waste of time.
Now they are doing it again.
Mixed messaging.
Just go and buy a pie or snort another line in the bogs pre kick off if it offends your wee soulSo no matter what kind of protest they come up with we've just to nod our heads and agree with it?
Giez peace.
And any sectarian singing too? Or any kind of sectarianism at all?Any booers should be identified and their ST retracted.Simple as that.
I get what you are saying.IMO a stance that everyone could be happy with is the solution.It's an empty gesture to most of us as it will never eradicate racism. However if the Rangers players feel it may make a difference, why would anyone with half a brain chose to boo this?
The backlash in the press the club will receive will give only please our enemies.
How difficult would it be to stay quiet for five seconds? Look away. Tie your lace. Miss kick off. Do whatever but don't feckin boo.
Aye, that's what I'll do.Just go and buy a pie or snort another line in the bogs pre kick off if it offends your wee soul
Please make it stop. Ban Twitter instead as that’s were 90% of the abuse reported by MSM seems to come from.Serious question is this taking the knee going to be around forever now?
It lost its effect about a week after the first time and we are now over a year down the line and teams are still doing it
I’m sure 22 players at Stenhousemuir v Stirling taking the knee is going to have a great effect on world racism
The public aren't wondering why it's still going on. Let's actualy be honest about what people understand instead of finding ways to feign confusion and ignore the message.They sated that it was pointless. They sated that they would be stopping taking the knee - and they did for our remaining games last season.
Suddenly they are back doing it.
So it is no real surprise that the public out there are wondering why it is still going on - particularly when the players are on record as saying it's just gesture stuff and yields no benefit - which i agree with.