BlueSevenTwo
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No doubt about that.
Tavernier
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stein and johnston
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Unfortunately some fans will never change their mind when it comes to Tav..Personally I thought he was ok.
It’s a wonder Barker hasn’t had any criticism today.
It’s a wonder Barker hasn’t had any criticism today.
You got it in one.
Alan Johnson
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Troll.
Exactly. Their scorer was initially tracked in the box and then given a free run. It was dreadful defending. When we attack opposing legs and bodies fly around stopping shots. It wasn’t unlike the goal hearts got at Tynecastle last year to derail our challenge.
Just get to f***
Danger Zone
Just the tip...
Didn’t do particularly well at the second goal but wasn’t exactly the one who cost us 2 points today.
For me the bit that summed up why I don’t get the overwhelming praise for Tavernier was the free kick at the end, it summed up my issue with him and most of this team. There’s a few minutes left and you badly need a goal at an often tricky venue to stop the scum having the chance to build a points lead, in that moment we need a good ball and as happens all too often, he gets it badly wrong in the pressure moment and gives their keeper what was essentially a pass back.
For me the bit that summed up why I don’t get the overwhelming praise for Tavernier was the free kick at the end, it summed up my issue with him and most of this team. There’s a few minutes left and you badly need a goal at an often tricky venue to stop the scum having the chance to build a points lead, in that moment we need a good ball and as happens all too often, he gets it badly wrong in the pressure moment and gives their keeper what was essentially a pass back.
Commentator
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Borna for the first. Tav, Helander & McLaughlin, too for the second.
We had at least 3 clear chances to score a 3rd after that switch.
Barisic is the villain in that one for me, if he takes that Heavy touch out wide up the other end porteous or some other clogger would have launched himself at it trying to murder the man and put the ball in the stand.
We’re too nice.
BlueSevenTwo
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Helander slipped , Davis should have come out and closed the man.
Alan Johnson
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Take it you missed Goldson's part of the second?
DunantBlue
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That is undoubtedly the case. But he also left us completely exposed. Managers have to own decisions - even ones on the finest of margins
According to who? What’s this rancid patter about?
punk
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No, i am not interested coz its just shite
Gees peace ffs
Arkansasgerstill
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Unless you are a Tim, this is the dumbest conclusion of the day. I may be one of Tav’s biggest critics on FF, but neither goal was his issue.
Kilsyth Unionist
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Goalie, was fine today.
Back 4 went to sleep and was very similar to so many games over the past 2 seasons.
Lessons havent been learned.
Back 4 went to sleep and was very similar to so many games over the past 2 seasons.
Lessons havent been learned.
Speminalium8
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Barisic poor at first goal. Goldson and Tav poor at the second. No personal vendettas, that’s just what happened. These intermittent but regular switch offs ( see Shankland’s chance last week )are offset by some good performances. The question is, are these gaffs worth it when it costs us points? Just now I’m angry and wonder if these two have experienced too much defeat in their time. They seem to me to have a frightened look on their faces. and we’ve been here before with these two. Rarely with Barisic. Would this have happened with Balogun and Patterson. Probably should reappraise things when calm down. Scunnered.
Try watching the game, first goal was from our left side where Barasic should have closed down the cross coming in. But then again blame Tav, that's the easy way.
There is shoite, there is M&S Shoite and then there is Methilbear FF shoite.
prenzlauerbear
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Went 4-3-3 second half and looked way more comfortable. Good, reactive management from Ross.
DunantBlue
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Unlike our guy I am afraid mate.
Masonboyne
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So I've been critical of Tav but I think he's been pretty solid this season. Second goal was all Goldson. Clear the lines, simple. Tries to pass and that's it right there. 2 hands on Helender and keeper not coming out played a big role. Can't se how you can blame Tav for the 2 goals, sorry mate
Not remotely close to being the problem today
IbroxForever
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His crossing today when he had plenty of time and space was shocking.
M
MearnsUnionist
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What a load of clueless shite.
The first goal comes from Borna giving Boyle too much space and then Steven Davis getting sucked into the front post and leaving Wright in acres of space.
The 2nd goal came from a loose pass from Goldson, followed by a very poor offside call by the assistant referee.
Try watching a sport you know something about, if there is such a thing.
Why Tavernier, he was beat by a good bit of skill when the guy dummied him and went onto his right foot.
First one is on Borna and Davis.
I’d actually blame Davis more for the sheer lack of awareness of the man he was marking.
Borna was teased a little by Boyle’s apparently heavy initial touch, so he went to commit and realised he wasn’t getting there. Ok so that was poor, but I still blame Davis more for leaving the guy wide open.
the second one is primarily Goldson for fannying about, but I do believe Tav is culpable because firstly he should’ve sprinted right up his arse to force him wife and not let him turn, and secondly he should’ve had the angle for the cross well blocked off. He was too lax in his approach to shut off the biggest dangers in the attack.
I’d actually blame Davis more for the sheer lack of awareness of the man he was marking.
Borna was teased a little by Boyle’s apparently heavy initial touch, so he went to commit and realised he wasn’t getting there. Ok so that was poor, but I still blame Davis more for leaving the guy wide open.
the second one is primarily Goldson for fannying about, but I do believe Tav is culpable because firstly he should’ve sprinted right up his arse to force him wife and not let him turn, and secondly he should’ve had the angle for the cross well blocked off. He was too lax in his approach to shut off the biggest dangers in the attack.
SC81
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He didn't stop the cross coming in.
His blame was tiny compared to Goldsons and the linesmans though.
I said on a thread the other day, the Tav haters are just waiting to dig him up.
weetam3106
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Thank %^*& the players don’t log in here.
tottie beck
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The first was down to lack of cover from midfield if you ask me. No way a player should be unmarked on the edge of the box like that. The second Tav was definitely lax in allowing the cross to come over. He was all over the place there. However, Helander has to put in a far better challenge on the cross. It was really powder puff defending from both players.
Alan Johnson
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What a contradiction.
Tav was too lax in allowing the Hibs player to cross for the second goal you say,yet no mention of Barasic at the first goal when Boyle took a horrible touch,Borna was favourite for that ball yet backed off Boyle to allow him to cross?
tottie beck
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Fair enough, but the first was more down to the Hibs player being in acres of space unmarked imho.
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RobbenHood
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The first goal was Barisic/Davis and the second goal was predominantly Goldson and partly Tav
How was Tav at fault for the first?
Alan Johnson
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Borna should have had that ball as soon as Boyle took a bad touch,it was there for him.
I agree on the arriving Hibs mid being unmarked,someone fell asleep.
I suspect Mentalbear had his OP written before the game even kicked off...massive fail!
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MearnsUnionist
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Davis was marking him and then inexplicably left him and got sucked towards the front post.
