Tavernier

Leif Erikson

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No opinions permitted then. We continually lose goals from rb position. His stats look good but ! Wait for it most of the good ones came in lower leagues. I have followed Rangers for over 40 years and I mean going to the games over 50 overseas. He is the equivalent of Ally Dawson.
Who i thought was pish but nice guy.

40 years watching football but you're still to grasp the basics of the game.

How exactly can you blame the right back for a goal that came down the left?
 

OohAhHuistra

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No player is above criticism but it's truly baffling when people try to shoehorn the blame onto someone – on what planet is Tav the one to blame for both those goals?
Had a good drink in me but unless I’ve lost the plot Barisic wAs sleeping at the first and our centre half’s were sleeping at the second.

We blew that ourselves today Morelos sitter and Arfield chance got to bury them
 

GarryB

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I will ask this once has anyone on here ever seen Tav put a crunching tackle on any opponent ????? Thought so too weak as a defender
 

tazzabear

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The real problem - and the one that should worry us more than anything - was that Jack Ross changed it immediately after our second goal. He switched his shape and tactical approach in order to create the opportunity for overloads against both our full backs. Gerrard didn’t react and our midfield were hopelessly incapable of making it difficult for them to shift the ball into those wide areas and create those opportunities.

SG got outsmarted by Jack Ross. Let that sink in.
That would explain why the formation and tactics we had when 2-1 ahead, created gilt edge chances for four different players?
 

Kilwinning GMan

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Didn’t do particularly well at the second goal but wasn’t exactly the one who cost us 2 points today.

For me the bit that summed up why I don’t get the overwhelming praise for Tavernier was the free kick at the end, it summed up my issue with him and most of this team. There’s a few minutes left and you badly need a goal at an often tricky venue to stop the scum having the chance to build a points lead, in that moment we need a good ball and as happens all too often, he gets it badly wrong in the pressure moment and gives their keeper what was essentially a pass back.
What boils my piss at times is when we get a free kick on the left hand side high up the pitch and Tav runs 100 odd yards (to take him well out of position) over to take it ahead of Borna who in my opinion delivers a far more dangerous ball. I get that sometimes inswinger V outswinger is tactical but play to the strength of the team and have your best player at delivering crosses take them rather than your captain roaming around the pitch to take free kicks that he shouldn’t be near... not a Tav bashing reply here btw, more of a frustrated observation from a frustrated bear!
 

OohAhHuistra

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I know.
I come on (first mistake) promising myself not to engage with these guys.
It lasts ten minutes, which is better than the five it used to.
Next week, I’ll try for the whole fifteen minutes!
Had the same idea mate, told myself don’t log on it’ll make you more angry
 

Chris the Bandito

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No opinions permitted then. We continually lose goals from rb position. His stats look good but ! Wait for it most of the good ones came in lower leagues. I have followed Rangers for over 40 years and I mean going to the games over 50 overseas. He is the equivalent of Ally Dawson.
Who i thought was pish but nice guy.
He must have had some season in his one lower league year to have racked up “most” of his 49 goals and 77 assists in one year.

And if he did, the 24 goals and 38 assists left over would still be a decent total for most attacking midfielders in 4 years, never mind a full back.

I actually thought you’d done well to trump the op in stupid then I noticed you were the op. It’d be easier just to admit the goals didn’t happen today as you thought unless you subscribe to “it’s Tavs fault because he didn’t leadership Barisic into doing better or Connor into not brain- farting by the magical powers of an arm band”
 

Davester

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No opinions permitted then. We continually lose goals from rb position. His stats look good but ! Wait for it most of the good ones came in lower leagues. I have followed Rangers for over 40 years and I mean going to the games over 50 overseas. He is the equivalent of Ally Dawson.
Who i thought was pish but nice guy.
I'm all for opinions, but for me in today's viewing, Tav didn't really enter my head as the main culpable player for their goals. Borna didn't cover himself in glory, but didn't get the same treatment Tav gets for similar performances. I'm not a huge fan of Tav, but we were talking about the Hibs game in isolation
 

RfcIbrox

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That is undoubtedly the case. But he also left us completely exposed. Managers have to own decisions - even ones on the finest of margins
Their equaliser was not because we were exposed. We had multiple chances to defend it properly and the linesman was a cheating bast*rd but letting our defenders think they did a good job and it was only the linesman or Gerrard tactics that cost us will not improve our defending. Hibs will always create chances. Much as I despise them they usually try to play attacking football.
 

wilso10

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No opinions permitted then. We continually lose goals from rb position. His stats look good but ! Wait for it most of the good ones came in lower leagues. I have followed Rangers for over 40 years and I mean going to the games over 50 overseas. He is the equivalent of Ally Dawson.
Who i thought was pish but nice guy.

This is what happens when you post whilst pished.
 

M A R T I N

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First goal Barasic should have got the high ball, Davis wandered off his player and they scored. Second goal Goldson fucked it. Entirely him to blame.
 

Steve Snedden

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No opinions permitted then. We continually lose goals from rb position. His stats look good but ! Wait for it most of the good ones came in lower leagues. I have followed Rangers for over 40 years and I mean going to the games over 50 overseas. He is the equivalent of Ally Dawson.
Who i thought was pish but nice guy.

In what way was he culpable for the first goal though?

Your judgement seems clouded by your dislike of Tav.
 

davmcc

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No opinions permitted then. We continually lose goals from rb position. His stats look good but ! Wait for it most of the good ones came in lower leagues. I have followed Rangers for over 40 years and I mean going to the games over 50 overseas. He is the equivalent of Ally Dawson.
Who i thought was pish but nice guy.
There's opinions and then there's just making stuff up. You have just made stuff up and therefore deserve to be ridiculed.

In what way was Tav remotely at fault for the first goal?

The second goal he has to do better to stop the cross but it all comes from Goldsons ridiculous clearance which leads to Tav having to sprint back into position and deal with it.

I thought Tav was one of our best players yesterday.
 

Shropshire_Bear

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What boils my piss at times is when we get a free kick on the left hand side high up the pitch and Tav runs 100 odd yards (to take him well out of position) over to take it ahead of Borna who in my opinion delivers a far more dangerous ball. I get that sometimes inswinger V outswinger is tactical but play to the strength of the team and have your best player at delivering crosses take them rather than your captain roaming around the pitch to take free kicks that he shouldn’t be near... not a Tav bashing reply here btw, more of a frustrated observation from a frustrated bear!

I agree that Tav should not be wasting energy by getting involved in taking free kicks or corners on our left. Also agree with the other poster about the complete waste of a free kick at the end of the game, when he launches it towards their keeper.
I would rather have a captain at centre back or midfield who can be more involved and manage the game, and give encouragement to players or give a rocket to any players who are careless or over-casual. Too many games we take the lead, then play as if the game is won, rather than pressing to put the game beyond the opposition.
 
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