temperance
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Hartson and Sutton with every other player
Andy Goram and Nigel Spackman.
Andy decked Spackman at half time during a game v Aberdeen. I’m sure the story was that Walter was not averse to Spackman getting a slap.
Barton and Dabo.
Shearer and Owen
Pretty sure Steffan Effenberg was hated by most of his team mates. Part of the reason he retired from the German national team quite young.
Definitely an Aberdeen game. Here’s what Andy said about it.Not read the full.thread yet but sure this was a Celtic game mate? Spackman played a loose back pass that allowed Fake Irishman Cascarino to equalise.
Definitely an Aberdeen game. Here’s what Andy said about it.
It happened during a game with Aberdeen at Ibrox in August 1992. Roy Aitken, now Pittodrie boss, scored for them with a long range shot in the first half.
I shouted to Nigel Spackman that he should have been in to make a challenge quicker than he did. He didn't agree, but his attitude suggested to me he knew it was his mistake but he was going to cover up rather than own up.
I didn't like that and when we went into the dressing-room at half-time I was still seething. I started on him again and he threw some abuse back, calling me a "fat b******". I cracked.
I jumped over the treatment table and let him have it. After belting him twice he went down and curled up on the floor like a hedgehog as I was dragged away.
I'd lost it totally. I was shoved into a little area which the physio uses until I'd cooled down. Thankfully it all happened before the gaffer arrived.
In the second half we went on to win the game 3-1 and the incident was more or less forgotten.
I suppose I was bang out of order. I should have at least waited till the game was over.
There was no lasting feud between us because coincidentally Nigel was sold within weeks of the barney.
I was more worried about what the manager might do. While he had missed the blows being struck he was aware something had happened and I'd been involved.
I expected to be summoned up the `marbles' to be given a warning but instead he just came up to me in training and said quietly: "I know what you did. And I don't want any repeat of it. OK?"
Bumped into Nigel Spackman in London a few years after he left Rangers and spent around thirty minutes just talking Rangers with him...He loved living in Scotland and loved Rangers saying he would go back in a heartbeat if asked, so i guess the feud didn't bother him too much.Definitely an Aberdeen game. Here’s what Andy said about it.
It happened during a game with Aberdeen at Ibrox in August 1992. Roy Aitken, now Pittodrie boss, scored for them with a long range shot in the first half.
I shouted to Nigel Spackman that he should have been in to make a challenge quicker than he did. He didn't agree, but his attitude suggested to me he knew it was his mistake but he was going to cover up rather than own up.
I didn't like that and when we went into the dressing-room at half-time I was still seething. I started on him again and he threw some abuse back, calling me a "fat b******". I cracked.
I jumped over the treatment table and let him have it. After belting him twice he went down and curled up on the floor like a hedgehog as I was dragged away.
I'd lost it totally. I was shoved into a little area which the physio uses until I'd cooled down. Thankfully it all happened before the gaffer arrived.
In the second half we went on to win the game 3-1 and the incident was more or less forgotten.
I suppose I was bang out of order. I should have at least waited till the game was over.
There was no lasting feud between us because coincidentally Nigel was sold within weeks of the barney.
I was more worried about what the manager might do. While he had missed the blows being struck he was aware something had happened and I'd been involved.
I expected to be summoned up the `marbles' to be given a warning but instead he just came up to me in training and said quietly: "I know what you did. And I don't want any repeat of it. OK?"
you're 100% correct brother. i never knew about the fake soap incident though. brilliant. the glorious bastard def preferred hately and mo. when smith took charge he played super and the goals flowed. i think a lot of this comes from hately taking a while to get fit/scoring. he'd had a serious injury and arrived in poor shape. i also think thats why we got him pretty cheap tbh. we took a chance. it worked. maurice was'nt here long after walter took charge. the rest is history.More manager not on getting with player but there again it could be have been a tactical decision but Souness v McCoist relationship deserves a mention or at least being discussed.
McCoist was nick named 'The Judge' because he sat on the bench for so long with Souness in charge after Mo Johnson signed post 1989. Although Souness might have thought Hateley and Mo Johnson the better pairing.
Then there was the incident where McCoist went to the races the day before a game I think, and Souness made him make a public apology on TV rather than a private dressing down and fine.
McCoist and Durrant bought joke soap and Souness used it the shower and was left with stains on his body that he couldn't get off for days. I don't think Souness would have found that funny! If ever there was someone who didn't suffer 'fools' gladly it would be Souness (not that McCoist and Durrant are fools by the way).
Maybe Souness was jealous of McCoist's popularity, personality and character or he benched Ally just as a tactical decision. Might be wrong here but when Walter took charge in 1991 McCoist seemed permanently restored.
Shearer is a Grade A weapon!!Owen looks genuinely traumatized when he speaks about the Shearer thing.
Hugh Dallas said Sutton was a twat and didn't like him. However he said Albertz was one of the nicest guy's in the game.I met Sutton and a bunch of their team incl Lennon in Dublin through a a works thing and believe me, they all thought he was a bellend.
As an aside to the Michael Owen story there is another side to him rather than the baby faced nice he portrays in the mediaTbf, talking to him would most proably send most people to sleep.
Mind when Roxburgh tried to get him to play for the Scotland National Team.Bumped into Nigel Spackman in London a few years after he left Rangers and spent around thirty minutes just talking Rangers with him...He loved living in Scotland and loved Rangers saying he would go back in a heartbeat if asked, so i guess the feud didn't bother him too much.
Anyone that has read Amoruso's LA Confidential should know he is a complete and utter narcissist.
Nothing was ever his fault and he seemed overly sensitive.
Anyone who refers to themselves in the 3rd person, like he did calling himself Lorenzo, is a weirdo.
Good player but massively overrated since he retired.
Doing a Q and A soon I read !!!Kyle Lafferty was a complete weapon. I don’t know why but I just can’t imagine Laudrup and Gazza getting along! Total opposites.
I do too !!!I met Sutton and a bunch of their team incl Lennon in Dublin through a a works thing and believe me, they all thought he was a bellend.
That big carpet got bigger !Was told a story about Sutton by someone who worked at Celtic Park. The staff were having their Christmas party in one of the suites and a few players came along and were mingling away quite the thing. One guy who was described as a really nice quiet guy, was in the toilet when Sutton came in and made a friendly remark to Sutton who promptly decided to batter 7 shades out if the guy. Medical staff and O'Neil both called out and it was brushed under the carpet. The guy left in disgust a couple of weeks later after Sutton refused to not only apologise but even acknowledged that it happened.
Actually Keane blanked Andy. Andy didn't have a problem.Goram and Roy Keane at Man Utd for obvious reasons.
Anyone that's ever seen that video of him playing against a youth goalkeeper for a training video will know what an utter bellend Michael Owen is.As an aside to the Michael Owen story there is another side to him rather than the baby faced nice he portrays in the media
To cut a long story short I was a key client (their words not mine ) of a credit account bookies based in England
Key clients were assigned a manager to deal with all matters relating to their account
After several months I got friendly with my manager and we used to chat about many things
On one of our chats he told me that Michael Owen was a client and a nightmare to deal with in relation to his account
Basically they couldn’t get him to settle his accounts!
Always tried to cut a deal of some kind
That’s what I was told first hand but of course not admissible in court
I do too !!!
I think that’s how their names were spelt on Pro Evo back in the day.Bower and Dier was the most famous one.
After de Bruyne's horrific childhood, you'd have to sympathiser with him. I mean he literally didn't get immediately signed by his first club and that sort of shit can leave a lasting impression.
I still like to think he did when the camera stopped rolling.Anyone that's ever seen that video of him playing against a youth goalkeeper for a training video will know what am utter bellend Michael Owen is.
Surprised Neville Southall never leathered him.
Great story in Robbie Fowler’s book about Thompson when he was youth coach at Liverpool.From the Magnificent B@stard's lips. Thompson hated that he replaced him as captain and also that his first wife's family were loaded.
Gave it the silver spoon patter. Souness was going to stiffen him more than once.
Lafferty .............I have a mate who plays for Killie (1st team regular) and he tells me he is a fukn trumpet of the first order.Watching an Andy Cole documentary just now where he's talking about how him and Teddy Sheringham didn't exchange a word while they were at Man United together in the late '90s. When they did chat, Dwight Yorke was the mediator between them, passing on what the other said.
I know Porrini/Negri is the obvious one, but any others? I think it's safe to say Davie Weir thought Kyle Lafferty was a complete weapon.
Heard years ago that the fitness coach who worked under O’Neill at Celtic leathered Sutton on the training ground.
Real shame that wasn't caught on camera. Would go viral.Big X aka Jim Henry has never divulged what happened that day to anyone. He is a good friend of my wife's brother in law and only offered so much.
Sutton was lets say an arrogant obnoxious bastard towards the big guy and had overstepped the mark by a long long way. Jim waited some time for the right opportunity - When the time came he found Sutton as the last person in the changing room. The door was locked.
From that point forward Sutton was nothing but respectful and polite towards Jim. Only two people know what happened.
Anyone of a certain age from EK will know Jim from their youth - The vast majority will know you don't mess with him.
I always liked wee batty , he was a great player for that leeds team.
Lorenzo was a brilliant player for us.Anyone that has read Amoruso's LA Confidential should know he is a complete and utter narcissist.
Nothing was ever his fault and he seemed overly sensitive.
Anyone who refers to themselves in the 3rd person, like he did calling himself Lorenzo, is a weirdo.
Good player but massively overrated since he retired.
Did you play for Motherwell?During my time at Motherwell it felt like everyone hated Richie Foran.
For good reason as well, the poet tramp that he was!
Pretty certain they’re mates?
Might be wrong but thought they are.
McCoist scored two in the second halfPretty sure it was August 1992 at Ibrox.
One nil down at half time, that carthorse Roy Aitken scored, destroyed them second half, won 3-1.
Not at a great level mate. I was there until I was 16/17. Worked for club after that for 6 years.Did you play for Motherwell?
McCoist scored two in the second half
Is he dead.Having started watching rangers in 1979, when Derek Ferguson came along I thought we had a superstar on our hands. He had everything.
Then remember him being spotted at a WetWetWet (I think) gig drinking Buckie on someone's shoulders. Shortly after that, he just slipped away.
Watching an Andy Cole documentary just now where he's talking about how him and Teddy Sheringham didn't exchange a word while they were at Man United together in the late '90s. When they did chat, Dwight Yorke was the mediator between them, passing on what the other said.
I know Porrini/Negri is the obvious one, but any others? I think it's safe to say Davie Weir thought Kyle Lafferty was a complete weapon.
Was that because Ferguson cut the sleeves of his Italian designer jacketHateley wasn’t especially welcoming towards Duncan Ferguson.
I can’t imagine Craig Levein and Graeme Hogg were top mates.