The only real option is likely Mcinnes

JBHK2410 said:
The board can’t afford to bring in a new manager who wants to completely change the squad again. So we are delusional to think we’d get any decent big name

We are going to have to choose someone who can figure out what to do with this squad and also knows the league.

I think McInnes is likely the only option that is realistic. I’m not saying I want him, I just think there will be very few practical options.
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Mcinnes had his chance and turned us down. I’d be surprised if he ever got asked again. He’s done nothing to suggest he should be asked again.
 
If we go down that line we are truly fu**ed
His aberdeen were turgid to watch killie will be the same,Glasgow Rangers Football club deserve and should be aiming a lot higher than mcinnes, we made a mistake with Beale let's not make two with appointing mcinnes.Too much think because he's an ex player and blue through and through he's the saviour,He's not.
 
Aurelius72 said:
Beale lost his job for losing “big games”. How many big games did Del win at Aberdeen, specifically in regards to Them? How many big league occasions, semi finals and finals did his Aberdeen side - who were often capable of holding us to a game - bottle it against the Tramps?
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My post was a bit tongue in cheek mate but I stand by what I said about every manager being a gamble, even experienced ones.

We play in a backwater, but it is a unique wee backwater. There's loads of posts about different managers style of play and how they play attacking football and so on and so forth. I get that.

When our new manager, whoever that is, eventually arrives they are going to find out pretty quickly that there are plastic parks, teams that play a cup final against you every week and two banks of 5 to break down. Add in that they must win every game by at least a couple of goals and it's safe to say not a lot will have experienced that type of management.

McInnes will know all of this. It's not an endorsement for the job, I'm just putting that out there. I also think it's unfair to gauge his success against the vermin while being at Aberdeen. He wouldn't be at Aberdeen, he would be at Rangers with a massively larger budget and better players. How many games did McLeish win against the scum while he was Hibs manager? I bet it wasn't many yet he did alright at us.

I'm open to any manager but I think now we need a bit of experience and not a Beale type appointment. In saying that what if Davis goes on a run of winning games playing exciting, attacking football? Do we bin him for a more experienced guy?

One of our greatest managers was an assistant at Dundee Utd and Rangers and was given the gig. Now I've read some posts on here about that time and if the Internet was about then. People saying they would have been happy with Smith getting the job. Bollocks, this place would have went into absolute meltdown if it was about back then. A Scottish guy who'd never managed in his own right, most would have went mental if they're being honest with themselves.

What I'm trying to get across is this, nobody can say any particular manager will be brilliant, shite, or whatever because nobody knows for sure.
 
punksnotdead said:
My post was a bit tongue in cheek mate but I stand by what I said about every manager being a gamble, even experienced ones.

We play in a backwater, but it is a unique wee backwater. There's loads of posts about different managers style of play and how they play attacking football and so on and so forth. I get that.

When our new manager, whoever that is, eventually arrives they are going to find out pretty quickly that there are plastic parks, teams that play a cup final against you every week and two banks of 5 to break down. Add in that they must win every game by at least a couple of goals and it's safe to say not a lot will have experienced that type of management.

McInnes will know all of this. It's not an endorsement for the job, I'm just putting that out there. I also think it's unfair to gauge his success against the vermin while being at Aberdeen. He wouldn't be at Aberdeen, he would be at Rangers with a massively larger budget and better players. How many games did McLeish win against the scum while he was Hibs manager? I bet it wasn't many yet he did alright at us.

I'm open to any manager but I think now we need a bit of experience and not a Beale type appointment. In saying that what if Davis goes on a run of winning games playing exciting, attacking football? Do we bin him for a more experienced guy?

One of our greatest managers was an assistant at Dundee Utd and Rangers and was given the gig. Now I've read some posts on here about that time and if the Internet was about then. People saying they would have been happy with Smith getting the job. Bollocks, this place would have went into absolute meltdown if it was about back then. A Scottish guy who'd never managed in his own right, most would have went mental if they're being honest with themselves.

What I'm trying to get across is this, nobody can say any particular manager will be brilliant, shite, or whatever because nobody knows for sure.
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Far too sensible for many on this Forum.
 
John Wilson said:
Someone earlier in the thread said that Sir Walter advised him against it as he was too inexperienced. You know more than Sir Walter??
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No a McInnes fan, but Charlie miller said he rejected the job because he was told that they could sack him in 6 months if the team wasn't performing well enough. I'd still say if you where confident in your ability as a manager you'd jump at the chance and he never.
 
Was talking to an older St Mirren fan today and the subject of McInnes came up and he said he's experienced.

I told him I'd rather the saints manager than Mcinnes. Mcinnes has been part of the downfall of Scottish football post 2012. An absolute turkey playing worst brand of football.
 
punksnotdead said:
My post was a bit tongue in cheek mate but I stand by what I said about every manager being a gamble, even experienced ones.

We play in a backwater, but it is a unique wee backwater. There's loads of posts about different managers style of play and how they play attacking football and so on and so forth. I get that.

When our new manager, whoever that is, eventually arrives they are going to find out pretty quickly that there are plastic parks, teams that play a cup final against you every week and two banks of 5 to break down. Add in that they must win every game by at least a couple of goals and it's safe to say not a lot will have experienced that type of management.

McInnes will know all of this. It's not an endorsement for the job, I'm just putting that out there. I also think it's unfair to gauge his success against the vermin while being at Aberdeen. He wouldn't be at Aberdeen, he would be at Rangers with a massively larger budget and better players. How many games did McLeish win against the scum while he was Hibs manager? I bet it wasn't many yet he did alright at us.

I'm open to any manager but I think now we need a bit of experience and not a Beale type appointment. In saying that what if Davis goes on a run of winning games playing exciting, attacking football? Do we bin him for a more experienced guy?

One of our greatest managers was an assistant at Dundee Utd and Rangers and was given the gig. Now I've read some posts on here about that time and if the Internet was about then. People saying they would have been happy with Smith getting the job. Bollocks, this place would have went into absolute meltdown if it was about back then. A Scottish guy who'd never managed in his own right, most would have went mental if they're being honest with themselves.

What I'm trying to get across is this, nobody can say any particular manager will be brilliant, shite, or whatever because nobody knows for sure.
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Well said.

I’m completely torn about the McInnes debate. Right now I would take him as I see it as less of a gamble. We need stability and I believe he would bring that. The club, in a football sense, is a bit of a basket case right now. He knows the club and would help bridge that gap between the current board and football department. I’m not for one minute thinking he would win a treble, but I do believe he has the ability of winning both domestic cups this season. I also believe he has the ability to close the gap on what is a poor Celtic side this season. Right now, I would take that.

On the other hand, I get the general unrest given he has already declined the position. I felt the same about the guy for years. What we have just gone through with Gio and now Beale, for some weird reason, it’s changed my opinion on McInnes. Don’t, get me wrong, I haven't forgiven him for turning his back on the club. I just think he would bring some much needed stability at this moment in time.
 
EverGer said:
Mcinnes had his chance and turned us down. I’d be surprised if he ever got asked again. He’s done nothing to suggest he should be asked again.
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Beale by all accounts I believe, was asked to stay on and manage after Gerrard left, and turned us down.
But yet 9 months later he is back in the hot seat.
 
punksnotdead said:
My post was a bit tongue in cheek mate but I stand by what I said about every manager being a gamble, even experienced ones.

We play in a backwater, but it is a unique wee backwater. There's loads of posts about different managers style of play and how they play attacking football and so on and so forth. I get that.

When our new manager, whoever that is, eventually arrives they are going to find out pretty quickly that there are plastic parks, teams that play a cup final against you every week and two banks of 5 to break down. Add in that they must win every game by at least a couple of goals and it's safe to say not a lot will have experienced that type of management.

McInnes will know all of this. It's not an endorsement for the job, I'm just putting that out there. I also think it's unfair to gauge his success against the vermin while being at Aberdeen. He wouldn't be at Aberdeen, he would be at Rangers with a massively larger budget and better players. How many games did McLeish win against the scum while he was Hibs manager? I bet it wasn't many yet he did alright at us.

I'm open to any manager but I think now we need a bit of experience and not a Beale type appointment. In saying that what if Davis goes on a run of winning games playing exciting, attacking football? Do we bin him for a more experienced guy?

One of our greatest managers was an assistant at Dundee Utd and Rangers and was given the gig. Now I've read some posts on here about that time and if the Internet was about then. People saying they would have been happy with Smith getting the job. Bollocks, this place would have went into absolute meltdown if it was about back then. A Scottish guy who'd never managed in his own right, most would have went mental if they're being honest with themselves.

What I'm trying to get across is this, nobody can say any particular manager will be brilliant, shite, or whatever because nobody knows for sure.
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I’ve always thought it’s like we play a different game in Scotland.

Although not glamorous, McInnes would be a sensible choice.
 
Sticky said:
Really?

Remind me how well he did at Aberdeen. A list of the cups and leagues won should suffice.
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Plenty of good managers in Scotland outwith the Old Firm clubs have won nothing doesn’t make them a bad manager. What had Alex McLeish won before he came to Rangers and won a treble twice? He did well at Aberdeen by keeping them competitive and getting them into finals of cups
 
Andre55 said:
Really? That must be why he turned us down previously to stay with the sheep!
If McInness is the height of ambition as manager of our club we are fuked!
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It’s not the height of ambition but I’d argue he would have us playing better than Beale had us playing over the last year
 
punksnotdead said:
My post was a bit tongue in cheek mate but I stand by what I said about every manager being a gamble, even experienced ones.

We play in a backwater, but it is a unique wee backwater. There's loads of posts about different managers style of play and how they play attacking football and so on and so forth. I get that.

When our new manager, whoever that is, eventually arrives they are going to find out pretty quickly that there are plastic parks, teams that play a cup final against you every week and two banks of 5 to break down. Add in that they must win every game by at least a couple of goals and it's safe to say not a lot will have experienced that type of management.

McInnes will know all of this. It's not an endorsement for the job, I'm just putting that out there. I also think it's unfair to gauge his success against the vermin while being at Aberdeen. He wouldn't be at Aberdeen, he would be at Rangers with a massively larger budget and better players. How many games did McLeish win against the scum while he was Hibs manager? I bet it wasn't many yet he did alright at us.

I'm open to any manager but I think now we need a bit of experience and not a Beale type appointment. In saying that what if Davis goes on a run of winning games playing exciting, attacking football? Do we bin him for a more experienced guy?

One of our greatest managers was an assistant at Dundee Utd and Rangers and was given the gig. Now I've read some posts on here about that time and if the Internet was about then. People saying they would have been happy with Smith getting the job. Bollocks, this place would have went into absolute meltdown if it was about back then. A Scottish guy who'd never managed in his own right, most would have went mental if they're being honest with themselves.

What I'm trying to get across is this, nobody can say any particular manager will be brilliant, shite, or whatever because nobody knows for sure.
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Good post that.



Whoever new manager is we need to get behind him as whoever it is I feel its going to be unpopular.
 
Ben Kingsley said:
Well said.

I’m completely torn about the McInnes debate. Right now I would take him as I see it as less of a gamble. We need stability and I believe he would bring that. The club, in a football sense, is a bit of a basket case right now. He knows the club and would help bridge that gap between the current board and football department. I’m not for one minute thinking he would win a treble, but I do believe he has the ability of winning both domestic cups this season. I also believe he has the ability to close the gap on what is a poor Celtic side this season. Right now, I would take that.

On the other hand, I get the general unrest given he has already declined the position. I felt the same about the guy for years. What we have just gone through with Gio and now Beale, for some weird reason, it’s changed my opinion on McInnes. Don’t, get me wrong, I haven't forgiven him for turning his back on the club. I just think he would bring some much needed stability at this moment in time.
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My feelings too. I didn’t want him the first time around but i actually feel he may be the safer choice to bring much needed stability and will get results quicker. Add into that the names being linked aren’t overly convincing.

I actually think Warnock in on an interim to steady the ship would be our best bet right now but if the choice was between the short list and McInnes I think I would choose him.
 
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IrvineLoyal said:
Good post that.



Whoever new manager is we need to get behind him as whoever it is I feel its going to be unpopular.
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I agree completely here. The new guy needs and deserves our backing, especially initially as he will inherit a squad low on confidence, and high on injuries to key players.

However for what it’s worth I’d be astounded if it was Mcinnes. If it is I reckon it’s because several people have turned us down.
 
John Wilson said:
Someone earlier in the thread said that Sir Walter advised him against it as he was too inexperienced. You know more than Sir Walter??
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Walter publicly said he'd like McInnes to get the job before Pedro got it. This was on Sky Sports. I highly doubt he then advised McInnes to reject the job when he was eventually offered it 9 months later.
 
Traveller said:
It might not be a market that excites everyone but what do people think of the Ipswich manager? doing really well and he's young and quite highly rated.

There was talk of him going to the nonces before they got Brendan and I've kept an eye on him out of interest since.
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Gets my vote.
 
If Killie hadn’t beaten us and the tramps so recently he wouldn’t even be on people’s minds.

Surely we’re not putting this much stock in 2 one-off results against dreadful OF sides.
 
Barrymoped said:
I agree completely here. The new guy needs and deserves our backing, especially initially as he will inherit a squad low on confidence, and high on injuries to key players.

However for what it’s worth I’d be astounded if it was Mcinnes. If it is I reckon it’s because several people have turned us down.
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It will only be Mcinnes or Lampard if we get about 6 knock backs.



Let's just see how it pans out, a good result on Thursday would lift the mood.
 
punksnotdead said:
My post was a bit tongue in cheek mate but I stand by what I said about every manager being a gamble, even experienced ones.

We play in a backwater, but it is a unique wee backwater. There's loads of posts about different managers style of play and how they play attacking football and so on and so forth. I get that.

When our new manager, whoever that is, eventually arrives they are going to find out pretty quickly that there are plastic parks, teams that play a cup final against you every week and two banks of 5 to break down. Add in that they must win every game by at least a couple of goals and it's safe to say not a lot will have experienced that type of management.

McInnes will know all of this. It's not an endorsement for the job, I'm just putting that out there. I also think it's unfair to gauge his success against the vermin while being at Aberdeen. He wouldn't be at Aberdeen, he would be at Rangers with a massively larger budget and better players. How many games did McLeish win against the scum while he was Hibs manager? I bet it wasn't many yet he did alright at us.

I'm open to any manager but I think now we need a bit of experience and not a Beale type appointment. In saying that what if Davis goes on a run of winning games playing exciting, attacking football? Do we bin him for a more experienced guy?

One of our greatest managers was an assistant at Dundee Utd and Rangers and was given the gig. Now I've read some posts on here about that time and if the Internet was about then. People saying they would have been happy with Smith getting the job. Bollocks, this place would have went into absolute meltdown if it was about back then. A Scottish guy who'd never managed in his own right, most would have went mental if they're being honest with themselves.

What I'm trying to get across is this, nobody can say any particular manager will be brilliant, shite, or whatever because nobody knows for sure.
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Great Post spot on
 
punksnotdead said:
My post was a bit tongue in cheek mate but I stand by what I said about every manager being a gamble, even experienced ones.

We play in a backwater, but it is a unique wee backwater. There's loads of posts about different managers style of play and how they play attacking football and so on and so forth. I get that.

When our new manager, whoever that is, eventually arrives they are going to find out pretty quickly that there are plastic parks, teams that play a cup final against you every week and two banks of 5 to break down. Add in that they must win every game by at least a couple of goals and it's safe to say not a lot will have experienced that type of management.

McInnes will know all of this. It's not an endorsement for the job, I'm just putting that out there. I also think it's unfair to gauge his success against the vermin while being at Aberdeen. He wouldn't be at Aberdeen, he would be at Rangers with a massively larger budget and better players. How many games did McLeish win against the scum while he was Hibs manager? I bet it wasn't many yet he did alright at us.

I'm open to any manager but I think now we need a bit of experience and not a Beale type appointment. In saying that what if Davis goes on a run of winning games playing exciting, attacking football? Do we bin him for a more experienced guy?

One of our greatest managers was an assistant at Dundee Utd and Rangers and was given the gig. Now I've read some posts on here about that time and if the Internet was about then. People saying they would have been happy with Smith getting the job. Bollocks, this place would have went into absolute meltdown if it was about back then. A Scottish guy who'd never managed in his own right, most would have went mental if they're being honest with themselves.

What I'm trying to get across is this, nobody can say any particular manager will be brilliant, shite, or whatever because nobody knows for sure.
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Great post mate but it will go right over the heads of the experts on here. Some of the names they have come up with wouldn’t come to Scotland if you paid them crazy money! Time for many on here to get their heads out of the sand.
 
Mcinnes for me is the safe bet, he knows the league, the club and has managerial experience. I think he would be the equivalent of big Eck taking over from Advocaat. I know he's not the big foreign name some want, but he's the least risky move and that's why I think he's my choice just now
 
AndythephotoDr said:
It’s not the height of ambition but I’d argue he would have us playing better than Beale had us playing over the last year
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As a bonus, a non hipster choice like DM would make sure we didn't miss out bidding for best Scottish talent like we have been recently while we bought players who are as soft as shite.
 
JayDee said:
Well I hope we have a lot more options than McInnes - and I believe we do.
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I really don't want McInnes. His record at Aberdeen was lukewarm at best. Yeah, McInnes knows the league but will he make us a better team? With the resources we have available, pretty much any SPL manager should be able to make us competitive in Scotland. But what we really need is a manager to take us to the next level. Winning in Scotland and competitive in Europe.

When I compare how we play to some of the European outfits you can see the difference. They are technically better than us and usually a lot more mobile. I had hoped that GVB and then Beale would start taking us in that direction. I have absolutely no confidence that McInnes would.
 
I seriously think we need to go back to basics and get McInnes in until the end of the season. A project manager will just be another catastrophe at this stage with these players
 
I mentioned a week ago that he’s probably the right choice for stabilising us short term and getting us a foothold back in Scotland. 2-3 years max and then push on to someone more expansive.

I get the feeling a lot of our fan base are cottoning on to that after tonight’s showing.
 
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