The Scottish media's refusal to publicly condemn the SPFL

bearspakora

bearspakora

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Anyone with even a minor interest in Scottish professional football knows that the SPFL are 100 % to blame for the never ending shambles that is the game up here, but not the Scottish media. Tom English and Ewan Murray are the honourable exceptions to make their voices heard. The rest collectively have no problem in penning vicious click-bait articles on individual players, Morelos as example, or Hearts as a club being the latest victim of the media hate mob. Curiosly though, Doncaster as an individual, or the SPFL as an organisation, never seem to suffer the same fate of numerous articles bordering on defamation or libel. Why the coyness or shyness on putting the dubious antics of the SPFL under the microscope. ? There is enough material there to fill a book, but still no criticism ? Their silence is deafening.
 
Actually, I don't mind condemnation not be there, have always believed that the primary aspect of journalism is to report the facts without judgment. The need for journalistic 'opinion' represents nothing more than an onanistic importance feeder and an absence of thought process requirement for the mentally lazy reader.

However, there's a distinct absence of fact based articles, so at the same time i get the gist of the OPs point, whilst disagreeing with him at the same time.
 
bearspakora said:
Anyone with even a minor interest in Scottish professional football knows that the SPFL are 100 % to blame for the never ending shambles that is the game up here, but not the Scottish media. Tom English and Ewan Murray are the honourable exceptions to make their voices heard. The rest collectively have no problem in penning vicious click-bait articles on individual players, Morelos as example, or Hearts as a club being the latest victim of the media hate mob. Curiosly though, Doncaster as an individual, or the SPFL as an organisation, never seem to suffer the same fate of numerous articles bordering on defamation or libel. Why the coyness or shyness on putting the dubious antics of the SPFL under the microscope. ? There is enough material there to fill a book, but still no criticism ? Their silence is deafening.
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It's ridiculous and mind boggling tbh. You could have an absolute field day with these fannies at the spfl if you were a journo. And probably sell some papers too.
 
Easiest way to answer OP, is, if this was a game on 'Have I Got News For You', I think it would be called, 'The Hollicom Wheel of News'.

FBS
 
GranvillusClutterbuckus said:
Actually, I don't mind condemnation not be there, have always believed that the primary aspect of journalism is to report the facts without judgment. The need for journalistic 'opinion' represents nothing more than an onanistic importance feeder and an absence of thought process requirement for the mentally lazy reader.

However, there's a distinct absence of fact based articles, so at the same time i get the gist of the OPs point, whilst disagreeing with him at the same time.
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I agree to a certain extent, however, the collective Scottish media's pretence that the highly questionable decision to end the season early and how they came to that decision has no bearing to what is being played out right now in arbitration is just bizarre. As supposed journalists, they are there to present facts and if necessary, to tell truth to power and hold them to account when wrongdoing occurs. Judging by the media silence, and despite the evidence of such wrongdoing by the SPFL, the media see nothing worth condemning, which is both puzzling and disturbing.
 
The Scottish main stream media is just a propaganda machine for the SPFL/SFA/Celtic.

Plenty of good stories out there in Scottish football to be investigated that who knows, might even improve the game. Instead we get served stuff equivalent to reporting you’d see in a high school paper.
 
It’s much more than a refusal to investigate what they’ve been up to or call them out. They’re actively working alongside the SPFL to protect them, ridiculing and bullying any clubs or persons who’ve dared question their disgraceful behaviour and running of the league.

As someone else said (and it’s not paranoia but 100% true), the mainstream Scottish media are merely a propaganda and PR machine for Celtic and the SFA. That’s all they are, that’s why they’re so fiercely protective of the pedos and their chums, and that’s why they’re so aggressive and quick to ridicule or lambast anyone who dare question either of those two. In summary, we’re fùcked because mentally challengeds call the shots and make all the major calls at all levels.
 
Davie Provan to be fair called them out 2 weeks in a row.

However, since he compared them to the Sicilian mafia over a month ago, he has not been seen since.

Maybe he is just on holiday. Or maybe he sleeps with the fishes.
 
I think at the very least you should expect some discussion on calling the season instead of waiting and playing it out
Leagues all over Europe, including one only a few miles away, are happily playing out the games and deciding their titles on the pitch
Yet not one article saying maybe Scotland should have done the same
The cream on the cake though is the Dundee Utd statement about how challenging the award of the title to them lacks sporting integrity
It truly is an Alice in Wonderland world where up is down and down is up
 
The litmus test is to compare the reaction of our media towards the governing bodies when they think their masters are being unfairly treated (even when its just in their heads). Chalk and cheese.
 
This will be the same Scottish MSM that has avoided investigating what is probably the most horrific and prolonged systemic child sex abuse scandal in sporting history. We know very well why they are ignoring the stories here.
To any of you bheast supporting 'journalists' looking in, you are both complicit and a disgrace to yourselves and the profession.
 
Ive just read doncasters comments, about the up and coming season, and can believe he isnt getting slaughtered in the press, hees talking about shoe horning in the scottish cup games..to finish them Talked about leagues in europe being played and fans are in the ground in some, hopeful that the old firm game will be full.. etc..i cant understand why not one of these cunts in the press have picked up on the1st old firm game being played in October, for the 1st time i years..says teams will be given a option to not play in the bet fred cup..( i hope rangers do bin it)
Its a effing farce
They are itching for celtic to win there tainted 10
 
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GranvillusClutterbuckus said:
Actually, I don't mind condemnation not be there, have always believed that the primary aspect of journalism is to report the facts without judgment. The need for journalistic 'opinion' represents nothing more than an onanistic importance feeder and an absence of thought process requirement for the mentally lazy reader.

However, there's a distinct absence of fact based articles, so at the same time i get the gist of the OPs point, whilst disagreeing with him at the same time.
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Another major part of journalism is to investigate the facts.
Identify and ask the questions that the public would want answered.
Give them all the information and allow them to make up their own minds.
There is room for opinion of course.
This is where “columnists” come in.
These might be the same people as the reporters but, their piece his written separately with any balance they seem fit.
We can choose whether to agree or disagree with the opinion.
That there is a severe lack of criticism of what is blatantly obvious is more than just sinister.
 
Lack of accountability is a major factor in everything these days, We have a government who specialise in it. 70000 excess deaths which can only really be explained by a shambolic response to the pandemic yet we are reaching the stage where they only people who should be made to carry the can and actually do something about it are passing that responsibility on to the victims. Same with Brexit which looks like turning to shit very soon as the EU rolls its eyes and says GTF. Fingers of blame are already being pointed at anyone and everybody to deflect from the real source of the problem. Scottish football has been going that way for years. Those who run the game have ruined it but stay in the job because it is never their fault, its the clubs fault, its the supporters fault, its changes in society, its the weather, its just one fucking excuse after another. In both cases its the people who suffer but the system is stacked against those same people from rising up to take control and fix the problems themselves. We never quite seem to reach the straw that breaks the camel's back and the inadequacies just perpetuate on and on but with different faces making the same excuses. Every time you think 'they've done it now something has to give' but it doesnt. They just carry on and things get worse and worse. Whilst politics has its clowns and useful idiots up front - Johnson, Gove, Grayling, Farage etc with the likes of Cummings the cunning manipulator in the background with the agenda. But they're not running the show. Scottish football has its idiots too - Petrie, Doncaster, Reagan, Mulraney, Alan McRae FFS with Lawell pulling their strings. The answer might not be to take out the manipulators though, thats too obvious. We need to look behind the screen and see who's controlling them too. Who are the brains, the corrupt elite who have most to gain from the chaos? The disaster capitalists will benefit financially from a No Deal Brexit (the virus is is useful icing on the cake) but Putin is looking like the main winner, the one who takes advantage of a de-stabilised Europe, economically, even militarily, Would UK lives benefit if Putin was taken out tomorrow? Maybe, because stabilisation with responsible government left to concentrate on making things better can do just that. So, looking at the parallels, how do we learn from politics and fix Scottish football? Find out the Mr Big who benefits then see who controls him and why ? I'd start with Dermot Desmond who plenty have suspected uses his pet club to launder cash. A definite beneficiary generating the cash to maintain the corruption but who's propping him up? Opus Dei ? What do they stand to gain ? Maybe just the destruction of their perceived enemy - us? Is that the ultimate goal ? Judging by what's gone on over the last 10 years or so we could be excused for thinking so. So, how do we stop them, other than having a budding Lee Harvey Oswald step forward? They need to be put back in their box and their successors need to know the games up and if they dont change their ways we'll go after them too. But how? Identify names, impact on commerce that can be linked to them? Winning trophies will help but they'll be doing all the can to stop that.

I'm running out of ideas now - the things we think of when we wake up early and cant get back to sleep, lockdown and bright mornings have played havoc with my routine. Bugger it, I'm going back to bed :D
 
if ever you needed evidence of the Scottish media’s lack of impartiality then look no further in the sheer lack of critical analysis on this current shambles.

apparently they’ve no idea why Rangers fans are so angry, apparently Doncaster is an unwitting victim in all this paranoia.

Even if they properly laid out the facts and discussed you might give them the benefit of some doubt. They dont, they just sweep it all away and dismiss the fans concerns. Keevins, Jackson, Gordon, Conroy, and the rest, they all live in fear of Peter Lawwells ire, either That or they’ve all lost the ability to do their job as journalists.

the reality is probably if they actually did their job as journalists big Pete would make sure that they’d not be doing it for long.

it’s a big gravy train right enough.
 
Baz said:
Most editors are fully compliant (or possibly even on the pay-roll) of a certain shameless club so won’t allow any of their journalists to deviate from the party line
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This. It’s fairly obvious Celtic either hold a partisan or financial influence over a lot and certainly most media outlets in Scotland. The SPFL is Celtic. There is no getting away with that now. So they cannot criticise the SPFL as they would be criticising Celtic.
 
ThreadBear said:
Lack of accountability is a major factor in everything these days, We have a government who specialise in it. 70000 excess deaths which can only really be explained by a shambolic response to the pandemic yet we are reaching the stage where they only people who should be made to carry the can and actually do something about it are passing that responsibility on to the victims. Same with Brexit which looks like turning to shit very soon as the EU rolls its eyes and says GTF. Fingers of blame are already being pointed at anyone and everybody to deflect from the real source of the problem. Scottish football has been going that way for years. Those who run the game have ruined it but stay in the job because it is never their fault, its the clubs fault, its the supporters fault, its changes in society, its the weather, its just one fucking excuse after another. In both cases its the people who suffer but the system is stacked against those same people from rising up to take control and fix the problems themselves. We never quite seem to reach the straw that breaks the camel's back and the inadequacies just perpetuate on and on but with different faces making the same excuses. Every time you think 'they've done it now something has to give' but it doesnt. They just carry on and things get worse and worse. Whilst politics has its clowns and useful idiots up front - Johnson, Gove, Grayling, Farage etc with the likes of Cummings the cunning manipulator in the background with the agenda. But they're not running the show. Scottish football has its idiots too - Petrie, Doncaster, Reagan, Mulraney, Alan McRae FFS with Lawell pulling their strings. The answer might not be to take out the manipulators though, thats too obvious. We need to look behind the screen and see who's controlling them too. Who are the brains, the corrupt elite who have most to gain from the chaos? The disaster capitalists will benefit financially from a No Deal Brexit (the virus is is useful icing on the cake) but Putin is looking like the main winner, the one who takes advantage of a de-stabilised Europe, economically, even militarily, Would UK lives benefit if Putin was taken out tomorrow? Maybe, because stabilisation with responsible government left to concentrate on making things better can do just that. So, looking at the parallels, how do we learn from politics and fix Scottish football? Find out the Mr Big who benefits then see who controls him and why ? I'd start with Dermot Desmond who plenty have suspected uses his pet club to launder cash. A definite beneficiary generating the cash to maintain the corruption but who's propping him up? Opus Dei ? What do they stand to gain ? Maybe just the destruction of their perceived enemy - us? Is that the ultimate goal ? Judging by what's gone on over the last 10 years or so we could be excused for thinking so. So, how do we stop them, other than having a budding Lee Harvey Oswald step forward? They need to be put back in their box and their successors need to know the games up and if they dont change their ways we'll go after them too. But how? Identify names, impact on commerce that can be linked to them? Winning trophies will help but they'll be doing all the can to stop that.

I'm running out of ideas now - the things we think of when we wake up early and cant get back to sleep, lockdown and bright mornings have played havoc with my routine. Bugger it, I'm going back to bed :D
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Not really appropriate to draw strained parallels between Scottish football authorities and Leave-supporting politicians and use this as an excuse to launch a political attack. The latter were elected democratically and there has always been very strong support in the U.K. to withdraw from the EEC/EC/EU which was not reflected by the politicians selected as candidates by the main parties. Moreover, deeper and deeper integration within the EU was enabled by ensuring that the process was slow but stealthy and relevant debate and discussion being suppressed.

The methods used by Cummings (who Farage hates, incidentally) owe very much to the almost complete domination of TV by Remain supporters (who it appears have moved on to virtue-signalling over BLM). Indeed, if there are any lessons to be learned they are the polar opposite of the ones you suggest - the only way to deal with an overtly hostile MSM is to bypass it by using platforms you can control.
 
As a professional journalist Adrian Goldberg can see the injustice that has gone on for years to the victim's of that most vile club, channel 4 has tried in vain to investigate the cabal that controls all aspects of information, we have watched for years while Scotland has been turned into a shithole of a country, from top to bottom the mentally challengeds control the media therefore the narrative whether we like it or not. We can bitch about it but to change it we need to be proactive and start at the next election and oust the mentally challenged controlled snp, maybe then the victim's will get their day and we can begin to take our country back
 
So after all the corrupt shambolic moves that have played out before our eyes, we still have the very same cabal running the show, nothing has changed, they know we know but don't care, their drive is 10 and our record trophy haul. I for one are concerned going forward.
Smsm hang you heads in shame.
 
The majority backed themselves into a corner with their opinion on the vote and our dossier back in April and May, they are now having to double down.
It's actually quite pathetic watching them have to back up Doncaster et all, as they move from one %^*& up to the next.
 
The SPFL are entirely geared up to facilitate whatever Septic want. Their placemen and board level patsies ensure all orders distributed from the eagles nest are adhered to and the Scottish media exist to spin the narrative to suit. Very few journalists show any form of non partisan and objective reporting in this country. It will be a glorious day when it all comes tumbling down. A giant wage bill topped off with a CL qualifying exit and hopefully the league flag at Ibrox this time next year will just about do it!

Don’t doubt how low the press will go to disrupt us this season!
 
Snakehips said:
Davie Provan to be fair called them out 2 weeks in a row.

However, since he compared them to the Sicilian mafia over a month ago, he has not been seen since.

Maybe he is just on holiday. Or maybe he sleeps with the fishes.
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Provan waited until the deed was done before mentioning anything. No chance at that stage of rocking the boat.
He is either slow or deliberately held off with the story.

Not sure he is that slow.
 
Danger Zone said:
It’s much more than a refusal to investigate what they’ve been up to or call them out. They’re actively working alongside the SPFL to protect them, ridiculing and bullying any clubs or persons who’ve dared question their disgraceful behaviour and running of the league.

As someone else said (and it’s not paranoia but 100% true), the mainstream Scottish media are merely a propaganda and PR machine for Celtic and the SFA. That’s all they are, that’s why they’re so fiercely protective of the pedos and their chums, and that’s why they’re so aggressive and quick to ridicule or lambast anyone who dare question either of those two. In summary, we’re fùcked because mentally challengeds call the shots and make all the major calls at all levels.
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100% correct, they ridiculed Stewart Robertson and the Rangers dossier. Yet a judge asked about the contents within and the SPFL response. So much so he allowed this to be brought to the attention of the arbitrators. Yet not 1 MSM has dared to suggest maybe Rangers dossier regarding Dundeegate has merit. Maybe Rangers dossier regarding broadcasters getting refunds are true. Maybe Rangers dossier regarding minutes not being signed is telling. No not one will say it as it is.
 
Objectivity and honesty in the Scottish media appears to be non-existent. Be it the SPFL, the SFA, C*lt*c, or indeed the SNP, there appears to be a party line which must be towed, even when there is an open goal to report the inefficiencies and wrongdoings of these organisations. I assume there is more than one Holicom working away behind the scenes.
 
ThreadBear said:
Lack of accountability is a major factor in everything these days, We have a government who specialise in it. 70000 excess deaths which can only really be explained by a shambolic response to the pandemic yet we are reaching the stage where they only people who should be made to carry the can and actually do something about it are passing that responsibility on to the victims. Same with Brexit which looks like turning to shit very soon as the EU rolls its eyes and says GTF. Fingers of blame are already being pointed at anyone and everybody to deflect from the real source of the problem. Scottish football has been going that way for years. Those who run the game have ruined it but stay in the job because it is never their fault, its the clubs fault, its the supporters fault, its changes in society, its the weather, its just one fucking excuse after another. In both cases its the people who suffer but the system is stacked against those same people from rising up to take control and fix the problems themselves. We never quite seem to reach the straw that breaks the camel's back and the inadequacies just perpetuate on and on but with different faces making the same excuses. Every time you think 'they've done it now something has to give' but it doesnt. They just carry on and things get worse and worse. Whilst politics has its clowns and useful idiots up front - Johnson, Gove, Grayling, Farage etc with the likes of Cummings the cunning manipulator in the background with the agenda. But they're not running the show. Scottish football has its idiots too - Petrie, Doncaster, Reagan, Mulraney, Alan McRae FFS with Lawell pulling their strings. The answer might not be to take out the manipulators though, thats too obvious. We need to look behind the screen and see who's controlling them too. Who are the brains, the corrupt elite who have most to gain from the chaos? The disaster capitalists will benefit financially from a No Deal Brexit (the virus is is useful icing on the cake) but Putin is looking like the main winner, the one who takes advantage of a de-stabilised Europe, economically, even militarily, Would UK lives benefit if Putin was taken out tomorrow? Maybe, because stabilisation with responsible government left to concentrate on making things better can do just that. So, looking at the parallels, how do we learn from politics and fix Scottish football? Find out the Mr Big who benefits then see who controls him and why ? I'd start with Dermot Desmond who plenty have suspected uses his pet club to launder cash. A definite beneficiary generating the cash to maintain the corruption but who's propping him up? Opus Dei ? What do they stand to gain ? Maybe just the destruction of their perceived enemy - us? Is that the ultimate goal ? Judging by what's gone on over the last 10 years or so we could be excused for thinking so. So, how do we stop them, other than having a budding Lee Harvey Oswald step forward? They need to be put back in their box and their successors need to know the games up and if they dont change their ways we'll go after them too. But how? Identify names, impact on commerce that can be linked to them? Winning trophies will help but they'll be doing all the can to stop that.

I'm running out of ideas now - the things we think of when we wake up early and cant get back to sleep, lockdown and bright mornings have played havoc with my routine. Bugger it, I'm going back to bed :D
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Your argument would be strengthened by the use of paragraphs.
 
If every hearts fan and every rangers fan didn’t buy their rags they would be out of business by xmas.
 
GranvillusClutterbuckus said:
Actually, I don't mind condemnation not be there, have always believed that the primary aspect of journalism is to report the facts without judgment. The need for journalistic 'opinion' represents nothing more than an onanistic importance feeder and an absence of thought process requirement for the mentally lazy reader.

However, there's a distinct absence of fact based articles, so at the same time i get the gist of the OPs point, whilst disagreeing with him at the same time.
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Any decent journalist should be investigating it. You do get the impression that they're all compliant. Let's be honest,it wouldn't take much to uncover. Just go straight to Lawwell.
 
Quite simply the journo’s work for newspapers the newspapers need the ad revenue and have to avoid large legal fees. Therefore the editors control the stories, the journo’s are fearful for their jobs so toe the party line.
 
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