The State of Ibrox Catering

I'd like a simple revenue stream that works for Rangers.
It should be easy money every home game, instead it's utter shìt and too many fans won't spend there.

Maybe that's acceptable to you.

Correct .

Whatever we do , keep it simple . Nobody expects Egon Ronay standards of food , but we expect clean , fresh , reasonably priced simple refreshments at our home stadium .

Bottled water , sandwiches , sausage rolls for winter , decent pie for the traditionalists , bovril , fruit bags for kids , sorted .

No reason to go OTT but in 2019 nobody wants a scorched volcanic macaroni pie , a cold burger that tastes like its horse meat and been lying on a cold floor , horrible powdered soup etc .

People who say our food hasn’t improved in the last 30 years are wrong - it’s got far WORSE than 30 years ago .
 
Greggs have a huge range of food. What you on about. Huge range of different sandwiches and hot food at Greggs . That’s why there stores are full. We sell about 3 things at Ibrox and all of them are crap.
Do they really - have a think? Also could you imagine the reaction if it was run like Gregg's? Excuse me hen are the pies hot, slight heat pal only to discover absolutely freezing
 
I’m in the Govan rear, there are other kiosks selling lentil soup, pizza slices, chilli dogs and things like that?

I do agree the whole operation needs revamped though, it could and should be much better.
 
Do they really - have a think? Also could you imagine the reaction if it was run like Gregg's? Excuse me hen are the pies hot, slight heat pal only to discover absolutely freezing
If that’s the case you order one of the countless sandwiches they offer. Their choice is actually pretty vast.
 
I think I’m getting it just fine, thanks. So, bearing in mind we don’t actually own the catering, and are tied into a contract, what do we do? Maybe go back to my original point and not buy it? Just a thought.


maybe the catering is to be overhauled and we will maybe have charge of it as I'm sure that was in the fans forum information released the other day. there are to be changes in the club fan experience.

posters are stating their expectations and that getting it right puts money in our tills.

* on a side note you didn't say the catering wasnt owned by the club earlier and actually didn't get it in the earlier responses you made.
 
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I was talking about this at the game yesterday and was told we don't own the catering and get no profit from it, is this true?
I think is correct.

Elior gave us £35m in 2011 in order to secure a 9 year contract with us. So this should be the last year we have to put up with them.

Anything Elior makes on matchdays goes straight into their coffers.
 
There are a lot of us who think Greggs is crap too, cold and inedible junk would be the order of the day if they started selling stuff at Ibrox.

A basic Greggs with a limited selection of decent rolls , sandwiches and hot sausage rolls with bottled water and fruit bags for kids would be a vast improvement on the inedible mess we currently have .

Greggs has improved a lot in recent years , remember we won’t be able to bring in what spurs , arsenal have .

We can’t expect Egon Ronay standards at football games . It needs to be kept simple .
 
I remember in the 70's the lads with the cardboard boxes selling 'dry as feck' spam or cheese rolls. When they ran out as they invariably did you were left with the 'offishul Macaroon bars' .....always appealing but always made you feel sick before you were half way finished !

50 (FFS !) years on .....different times...different shite !
 
A basic Greggs with a limited selection of decent rolls , sandwiches and hot sausage rolls with bottled water and fruit bags for kids would be a vast improvement on the inedible mess we currently have .

Greggs has improved a lot in recent years , remember we won’t be able to bring in what spurs , arsenal have .

We can’t expect Egon Ronay standards at football games . It needs to be kept simple .
Do Greggs even do outside contract stuff ?

If they do, could we rebrand them John Gregg's :)) :)):))
 
Do Greggs even do outside contract stuff ?

If they do, could we rebrand them John Gregg's :)) :)):))

no idea bud it’s just a suggestion . Punters are scratching their heads as to why we are so far behind everywhere else on catering . It’s truly horrendous . Powdered soup with your scorched macaroni pie sir ? :oops:
 
A Greggs franchise would make a much better job of this. Its s poor in the extreme
I have often wondered about this .
Why not use a local bakers .Keep it simple .
Decent quality .
The basics and Employ local part time workers instead of inexperienced agency workers who do not give a hoot .
Rangers minded workers with an experienced management team training them .

As it stands the only winners on this contract are the Agency providing a crap service and sub standard products .
 
I have often wondered about this .
Why not use a local bakers .Keep it simple .
Decent quality .
The basics and Employ local part time workers instead of inexperienced agency workers who do not give a hoot .
Rangers minded workers with an experienced management team training them .

As it stands the only winners on this contract are the Agency providing a crap service and sub standard products .

This , I know people say Greggs won’t do it as it’s only business on 1 or 2 days a week . But it’s 50,000 captive audience with money to spend . Surely that’s attractive to someone like Greggs or Aulds who could do it like a popup basis . Would make a fortune for them and the club if done properly .
 
I think is correct.

Elior gave us £35m in 2011 in order to secure a 9 year contract with us. So this should be the last year we have to put up with them.

Anything Elior makes on matchdays goes straight into their coffers.
Is that confirmed that maybe next season is the last?
 
They sell bottles of water in the Govan. Poured into a cup
That’s good. Maybe it was just my kiosk then and they’d ran out who knows.
There are a lot of us who think Greggs is crap too, cold and inedible junk would be the order of the day if they started selling stuff at Ibrox.
id take a leaf out their book though and offer a range of sandwiches etc. I wouldn’t want Greggs the rangers catering partner
 
The only item on the menu, I've ever enjoyed at Ibrox in over 30 years, was the bears pakora

Everything else has been over-priced, poor quality, pretty tasteless or foul tasting
That said - right now it's worse than ever imo

However - although improvement would surely be easy to achieve - if we're going to change things I'd be hoping we'd aim for a better standard than Gregg's - personally

About 6 years ago I went to Brisbane road - (last minute arrangement with my son & his mates)

-All I'd had to eat that day was a bowl of weetabix at 5:30 that morning & @ half time I could have eaten a scabby dug on toast

They had subs wrapped in cling film- & I didn't have high expectations - but they were superb - their cornish pasties were too hot to eat at first - but were worth the wait for it to cool down

My son had pizza slices & he said it was as good as the previous night's Papa John's at a quarter of the price

Cheap, cheerful, good quality food can be done in this day & age - our current catering is still in the dark ages - imo
 
It ridiculously bad, from the fact it’s cash only to the standard of food. However is this whole set up not outsourced in a long term contract?
 
Have posted on this a number of times. At least we've heard recently there are plans though, so fingers crossed for decent changes.

The pricing is ridiculous. However you look at it. That has to change... unless there's a conscious decision to have fewer customers and therefore make it easier for the serving staff... off-setting it by charging people a fortune. Surely the queues at the various vans outside the ground tell their own story though.

Greggs or similar would be a good, simple, quick fix as a medium term solution over say three years.

Ultimately with 50,000 people turning up long term it seems stupid to be outsourcing though, if we can run that internally and keep the profit internal.

Whilst a range of choice would be nice, that might be tricky in reality. Hard to have an extensive range in each kiosk due to space. Also, there are limits on what they can cook due to the kitchens being underneath the stands (ie with regard to open flames). Specialising the individual kiosks could work but then has the potential for chaos if one particular kiosk is much more popular (eg if everyone wants pizza slices and the other four kiosks are left empty). Ok, in time you can use that info to fine-tune the offerings across the board, but short term could be messy and just piss people off more.

Other things we could be doing:
  • cashless payment (fucking unbelievable we're still not using this in 2019)
  • bottled water (I know the stuff coming through the pumps isn't good, no excuse for not having a few pallets of plastic bottles though)
  • looking carefully at the stalls outside the ground to see if a deal could be done with the people running them to have them either brought entirely under our control (and rebuilt to have something branded and more solid looking), or regretfully thank the licence holders but move them on so we can set our own up units
  • engage with local colleges to see if there's scope to do something creative with their catering courses and students re product range, staffing, internships etc (plus brownie points for the community aspect)
  • investigating a pre-ordering system (my employer is currently doing this - 26,000 students and 8,000 staff)
None of this is rocket science. It just needs a bit of time and willing and someone tasked with sorting it out. The stadium restaurants are excellent, it's ridiculous that the match day catering kiosks are right at the other end of the experience. It basically suggests no-one has been giving a %^*& about it for a long time. Which might be understandable in some ways if the contract doesn't bring much to the club... but it also makes a statement about what they think about US.

Scottish football on the pitch has been left well behind of late. When you look at the match day experience at some of the newer stadia down south we're looking at the same thing happening in the grounds too. We (and other clubs up here) need to decide if we just shrug our shoulders and except that, or whether they care enough to do something about it.
 
This , I know people say Greggs won’t do it as it’s only business on 1 or 2 days a week . But it’s 50,000 captive audience with money to spend . Surely that’s attractive to someone like Greggs or Aulds who could do it like a popup basis . Would make a fortune for them and the club if done properly .
It might not need to be Greggs But individual butchers and bakers kiosks with soft drinks and sandwiches could surely be an experiment to be looked at .

I have done small scale functions at the drop of a hat, food and beverage .
I know this is a different scale.
But there are some very smart people in our support involved in this trade and would jump at a short term contract for a franchise .

I know when I first started to take young Charlie to the games in 2008
The food and drink was part of our match day ritual as well as a wee visit to Macdonalds just to break up his day .
This is why a Fanzone is so important for our younger bears .

Forget the beer ,forget the safe standing for now .Let's make it an enjoyable day for the next Generation .
 
5 of us go through in the car. For a 3pm kick off we're away at 1030hrs and back around 2000hrs, so we're gonna get hungry. I've started, this season, making sandwiches/chicken/bringing multi packs of crisps etc. I'm loathed to see us spend too much money at burger vans (did for years) but would happily buy food inside Ibrox if it weren't so garbage and I knew the club was benefiting. That's 5 of us more than 20 times this season. Baffles me why some supporters think this is such a trivial issue.
 
Is that confirmed that maybe next season is the last?

Elior (under Azure at the time) signed a 9 year extension deal in 2011 depends if it is this season of next season it

Elior have a number of catering contracts with other clubs/organisations, recently extending their contract with the SRU until 2031
 
If the catering is subcontracted then the supplier surely isn’t meeting the standards expected and hasn’t for many years. Is this just ignored , maybe we’ve been just happy with the margin we get from the supplier.
 
Catering was one of the things in the fans consultation thing released a few days ago,i havent eaten at Ibrox for years because it is expensive shite

Maybe we should sub contract it to Greggs
I'd offer it to as many franchises we can get in and street food vendors for outside. It's all part of the match day day experience after all
 
If the catering is subcontracted then the supplier surely isn’t meeting the standards expected and hasn’t for many years. Is this just ignored , maybe we’ve been just happy with the margin we get from the supplier.

Correct it could be the case of what Rangers wanted and what Elior have supplied in return

We don't know the terms of the contract signed for matchday catering

But we can take any complaints or idea for new products to Elior
 
Really hope it does change and improves.

Partial to a steak pie and can overlook the instant heartburn if they improve the quality.

All revenue streams should be as good as they can be.
 
It is shocking but the pie I got yesterday was superb, I had to get another one.
 
I think I’m getting it just fine, thanks. So, bearing in mind we don’t actually own the catering, and are tied into a contract, what do we do? Maybe go back to my original point and not buy it? Just a thought.
You really aren't getting it. The contract is in its final year a d there will be thousands more than already do, wanting to buy food at Ibrox. Yep, we get a payment but the whole idea of service is early 90's

90's food
Poor quality
Poor and slow service
Cash only
Poor range

Your missing the point massively. We are Rangers. We do things better. We are miles off in this area and its going to take decent investment too (not for Michelin star quality smart arse)
We need new food
Better quality
Faster service
Card readers (that's going to take a large bit of summer work as everything will need digitised).
Proper offers, up to date with the time.

I'm not quite understanding your pathetic sarcasm.


On another point for others, I'm not sure what the profit margin could be compared with how much elior pay per annum for our kiosks.

Best case example, we make say 40k profit per match.

40 say x 25 home matches

That's pretty massive but I'm not sure its be that high. Does anyone have knowledge of the fee paid to us?
 
I know, we were running late for a match, thought its ok get something in the stadium, got there and realised hadn't any cash. All we could get was a cup of water. They should take cards
 
I don't know how much the club make out of catering on matchdays but I haven't bought anything in the stadium for years,Far better quality and value for money from the vans outside.
 
Have posted on this a number of times. At least we've heard recently there are plans though, so fingers crossed for decent changes.

The pricing is ridiculous. However you look at it. That has to change... unless there's a conscious decision to have fewer customers and therefore make it easier for the serving staff... off-setting it by charging people a fortune. Surely the queues at the various vans outside the ground tell their own story though.

Greggs or similar would be a good, simple, quick fix as a medium term solution over say three years.

Ultimately with 50,000 people turning up long term it seems stupid to be outsourcing though, if we can run that internally and keep the profit internal.

Whilst a range of choice would be nice, that might be tricky in reality. Hard to have an extensive range in each kiosk due to space. Also, there are limits on what they can cook due to the kitchens being underneath the stands (ie with regard to open flames). Specialising the individual kiosks could work but then has the potential for chaos if one particular kiosk is much more popular (eg if everyone wants pizza slices and the other four kiosks are left empty). Ok, in time you can use that info to fine-tune the offerings across the board, but short term could be messy and just piss people off more.

Other things we could be doing:
  • cashless payment (fucking unbelievable we're still not using this in 2019)
  • bottled water (I know the stuff coming through the pumps isn't good, no excuse for not having a few pallets of plastic bottles though)
  • looking carefully at the stalls outside the ground to see if a deal could be done with the people running them to have them either brought entirely under our control (and rebuilt to have something branded and more solid looking), or regretfully thank the licence holders but move them on so we can set our own up units
  • engage with local colleges to see if there's scope to do something creative with their catering courses and students re product range, staffing, internships etc (plus brownie points for the community aspect)
  • investigating a pre-ordering system (my employer is currently doing this - 26,000 students and 8,000 staff)
None of this is rocket science. It just needs a bit of time and willing and someone tasked with sorting it out. The stadium restaurants are excellent, it's ridiculous that the match day catering kiosks are right at the other end of the experience. It basically suggests no-one has been giving a %^*& about it for a long time. Which might be understandable in some ways if the contract doesn't bring much to the club... but it also makes a statement about what they think about US.

Scottish football on the pitch has been left well behind of late. When you look at the match day experience at some of the newer stadia down south we're looking at the same thing happening in the grounds too. We (and other clubs up here) need to decide if we just shrug our shoulders and except that, or whether they care enough to do something about it.

Very good post, like a lot of these ideas. I think due to the set up of our concourse, individual kiosks would be difficult for the reasons you say. Might be an idea to keep it simple at first and introduce 'special' items and see how they fare and then add to the permanent menu.

Introducing good options outside, that are affiliated to the club, would possibly help with queues too. For example I'm up at the ground early when I go, so would most likely eat outside before going in. As it stands I generally go to the cafe at the climbing centre. (Eventually) offering options similar to what they do in there would go down a great imo. Appreciate we are a long way from that though.
 
The problem being just before Murray sold us for £1, he had the brain fart to give Elior a 10yr contract extension.
They run Argyle Restaurant, Hospitality and match day food.
Whilst the 1st two area’s are second to none, with excellent food and service, we then have the stalls in the stands which are as basic as they come, with staff on the lowest pay possible.
 
At the Hamilton game,there was an A4 sheet of paper stuck on the wall saying “mineral water £1.50” (club deck) so presumably they were selling bottles of water.
They are selling bottled water in the EE which is decanted into paper cups
 
I remember in the 70's the lads with the cardboard boxes selling 'dry as feck' spam or cheese rolls. When they ran out as they invariably did you were left with the 'offishul Macaroon bars' .....always appealing but always made you feel sick before you were half way finished !

50 (FFS !) years on .....different times...different shite !

The 2019 version at yesterday's game.
 
We’re stuck with another spiv era contract for catering. I think it was mentioned on H&H that this expires in the summer so looks like that is the opportunity to improve the catering.
 
Correct .

Whatever we do , keep it simple . Nobody expects Egon Ronay standards of food , but we expect clean , fresh , reasonably priced simple refreshments at our home stadium .

Bottled water , sandwiches , sausage rolls for winter , decent pie for the traditionalists , bovril , fruit bags for kids , sorted .

No reason to go OTT but in 2019 nobody wants a scorched volcanic macaroni pie , a cold burger that tastes like its horse meat and been lying on a cold floor , horrible powdered soup etc .

People who say our food hasn’t improved in the last 30 years are wrong - it’s got far WORSE than 30 years ago .
Good post fella.

Funny how people want to go on about Rangers and our standards, but dare to criticise and you get the sarcastic food critic/michelin star pish.

Can anyone name a ground in Scotland where the food is worse than Ibrox for quality, choice or value for money?
 
If the catering is subcontracted then the supplier surely isn’t meeting the standards expected and hasn’t for many years. Is this just ignored , maybe we’ve been just happy with the margin we get from the supplier.
Depends what was in the contract
 
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