The Summer 2022 Rangers Transfer Window Rumours and Deals - Thread

[bkerr72]

I know Aribo has a year to go on his contract but would love to see us get another year out of him as I think there's so much more to come from him. Think a full season as a 10 he would get more goals but he's been versatile in his time here he's never really nailed a certain position down.

Don't see him going to a Southampton but if Palace make a bid for him then yeah given he's a London boy he would move on.

 

[Now and forever]

You're saying you dont want Hong Kong owning and running the club. I'll accept there's no full ownership however Julian Wolhardt owns shares and is on our board.

He owns a a decent % and on the board therefore has a say in the running of the club. As I said it's close enough.

Combine that with Stuart Gibson who earned his money in HK and there's more than enough involvement in our club from HK

Not for quitting are you.

For the third and last time. You wrote 'too late' to my point when i said i do not want Hong Kong private equity investors owning and running us (after a rumoured takeover). You were wrong, the reason you were wrong is because Hong Kong investors do not own or run us. We have investors on board, and they may part own us like every other shareholder does, no one is disputing that.

But Hong Kong investors to not own or run us in the way i was suggesting. Which means it is not in fact 'too late'.

 

[Jose Calypso]

I agree with you.

I accept that we need to sell him if he’s not extending, but Joe Aribo can be very proud of his service to our club.

And I’ll never ever forget his face when he scored in Seville. He was delirious.

No matter where he goes he won’t top that moment.

Or the feeling at the end of the Leipzig game at Ibrox.

 

[DeeGer10]

Not for quitting are you.

For the third and last time. You wrote 'too late' to my point when i said i do not want Hong Kong private equity investors owning and running us. You were wrong, the reason you were wrong is because Hong Kong investors do not own or run us. We have investors on board, and they may part own us like every other shareholder does, no one is disputing that.

But Hong Kong investors to not own or run us in the way i was suggesting.

Like I said full ownership isn't there I know.

We still have HK ownership and at the moment HK looks like our only source of fresh investment. I appreciate you're saying you dont want but if its good enough for now then it's good enough later.

We'll obviously not agree, I think it's too late in regards to running the club as they already have a say in day to day running you disagree as its not fully them. I'll agree to disagree.

 

[Andrew webb]

That may be so but he doesn't own or run us which was the point.

And i wouldn't want private equity firms owning and running us.

Ok fair enough
Eventually there will be changes in who owns our club
The people I mentioned are all ready got shares and place on board

 

[DennistounGer]

If Aribo leaves, I'll never forget being behind the goal in Seville as he advanced with the ball and the anticipation before he slotted it home.
A brilliant player who could control a beach ball in a telephone box.
It's time to sell but I'll miss him.

 

[Andrew webb]

You're saying you dont want Hong Kong owning and running the club. I'll accept there's no full ownership however Julian Wolhardt owns shares and is on our board.

He owns a a decent % and on the board therefore has a say in the running of the club. As I said it's close enough.

Combine that with Stuart Gibson who earned his money in HK and there's more than enough involvement in our club from HK

Good point s

 

[HamiltonBear]

Mental how so many can't grasp how a release clause works

Have there been any other sources confirming this release clause? I'm not saying it doesn't exist, I just find it strange the club is so tight lipped about transfers would leak this.

 

[Aurelius72]

Phone Ross Wilson mate.

Stick your glasses back on, and notice the question mark, petal.

 

[WATP]

In order to sell them - and in order for someone else to sign them - then the player needs to agree mate. If any of those players chooses to run down their contract, and that’s what Aribo, for example, did at Charlton, then there is nothing we can do about it.

It could be argued differently VB, we absolutely could encourage him to move and sometimes that encouragement in football is carrot or stick in approach. All is fair in love, war and business…..football is all 3!!

 

[Main Stand]

Have there been any other sources confirming this release clause? I'm not saying it doesn't exist, I just find it strange the club is so tight lipped about transfers would leak this.

Heart and Hand + the 4th official.

Probably leaked to explain why the fee is on the lowish side.

 

[brain]

Majority of Southampton fans online seem very excited at prospect of signing Aribo.

As they should be. Stuart Armstrong is in their starting 11!

 

[Andrew webb]

Hopefully next week we get a couple of signing s and Colak deal is sorted PLEASE
Amen

 

[MarkD87]

Yep he definitely has the ability to do all of that. If he actually fulfills his potential it would be Liverpool or Man City looking at him.
He can be the most frustrating player I've ever seen.

I think Aribo is an absolutely cracking player, but I think he maybe lacks the mentality to get to those heights (maybe not the technique or physical ability though).
Several people, including himself, have recognised that he lacks the belief and confidence in his own ability. I fear that may always be there and hinder the heights he should reach.

I'll miss him from our team. I wonder if we were the perfect club for him - being a big fish in a small pond will have helped with his confidence.

 

[Valley Bluenose]

It could be argued differently VB, we absolutely could encourage him to move and sometimes that encouragement in football is carrot or stick in approach. All is fair in love, war and business…..football is all 3!!

Aribo has already demonstrated he’s happy to run down a contract. And subsequently done very well out of his move to Rangers. Reportedly a £300k fee but by the time the player and his Agent got their ‘inducements’ it cost us circa £2m. So it would need to be a big carrot. The only ‘stick’ would be not playing him - and that hurts us as well.

I‘m not suggesting because he’s done it once he will do it again. Simply highlighting that it’s not the 70s anymore and it’s the player that has the power.

 

[Donald Duck]

If Aribo is leaving it best be £20m plus.

You must have missed it being mentioned in the 6,300 posts that he has a £10 million buy out clause….if any of it’s true?

 

[Shota]

10m is fair buisness tbh.

It will be sore losing any of our first team but I definitely feel it’s required for a refresh.

Time to move on.

 

[HamiltonBear]

Heart and Hand + the 4th official.

Probably leaked to explain why the fee is on the lowish side.

Didn't know about 4th official. Don't know how reliable that is. Might be.

I doubt very much the club leaked it at all. Explaining fees doesn't make sense. If clubs don't want to reveal fees theyusually just say undisclosed. Could have been the agent but I would expect there to be more out there if that's the case.

Anyways, hopefully resolved one way or another soon.

 

[Johnny Quid]

Stick your glasses back on, and notice the question mark, petal.

Ok mate.

 

[GreigK_RFC]

£10m (his sell-on clause) plus a 20% sell-on fee to potential suitors and he goes with best wishes.

 

[Shota]

Didn't know about 4th official. Don't know how reliable that is. Might be.

I doubt very much the club leaked it at all. Explaining fees doesn't make sense. If clubs don't want to reveal fees theyusually just say undisclosed. Could have been the agent but I would expect there to be more out there if that's the case.

Anyways, hopefully resolved one way or another soon.

Would make sense to leak it to dampen expectations of people wanting him to go for much more.

If the release clause wasn’t leaked then suddenly Aribo moves for 10m the fan base would be in uproar.

 

[Ted Rangers]

£10m (his sell-on clause) plus a 20% sell-on fee to potential suitors and he goes with best wishes.

That doesn't make sense though. Why would you offer that, if £10m itself with no sell on would be accepted?

If anything, there's a potential to sell for about £8m with a decent sell on.

It would be easier for the buying club to just pay the full amount though. The £2m is nothing to these clubs.

 

[GreigK_RFC]

That doesn't make sense though. Why would you offer that, if £10m itself with no sell on would be accepted?

If anything, there's a potential to sell for about £8m with a decent sell on.

It would be easier for the buying club to just pay the full amount though. The £2m is nothing to these clubs.

I'd hope we'd demand a good sell-on fee is added to his contract we need to be getting something out of it when they move him on.

 

[BigBadJohn]

I'd hope we'd demand a good sell-on fee is added to his contract we need to be getting something out of it when they move him on.

If there's a release clause then we can't add a sell on as long as it's met.

Surely you understand that?

 

[strider]

I'd hope we'd demand a good sell-on fee is added to his contract we need to be getting something out of it when they move him on.

As was said above, if there's a release clause and it's met, there's pretty much no chance anyone will agree to a sell-on percentage.

 

[Ted Rangers]

I'd hope we'd demand a good sell-on fee is added to his contract we need to be getting something out of it when they move him on.

We'll get the £10m. I can't think of any reason for the other team to help us out.

 

[Bigbluebear]

No matter where he goes he won’t top that moment.

Or the feeling at the end of the Leipzig game at Ibrox.

None of the squad will top that Leipzig game in their careers

I'd go as far as to say not many players in the world will ever experience something like that in their career.

 

[GreigK_RFC]

We'll get the £10m. I can't think of any reason for the other team to help us out.

Ignore us had too many beers tonight

 

[UnionCruiser72]

As they should be. Stuart Armstrong is in their starting 11!

I love how you’ve phrased this like Armstrongs some sort of diddy hahah.

 

[HamiltonBear]

Would make sense to leak it to dampen expectations of people wanting him to go for much more.

If the release clause wasn’t leaked then suddenly Aribo moves for 10m the fan base would be in uproar.

But would they really? Last year of contract. Club just need to say clause activated and if it's £10 million that's what it is. How much more would we realistically get with his contract running down? It's all a bit strange that the clause is activated in the final year. Again, not saying it isn’t but doesn't make sense to me.

 

[Grigo Yossarian]

No matter where he goes he won’t top that moment.

Or the feeling at the end of the Leipzig game at Ibrox.

Never mate.

That picture of him about 10 feet in the air will never leave us either.

 

[LiviLoyal]

Any updates or are we still just trying and failing to get a deal for an Itten replacement over the line?

 

[DeeGer10]

That doesn't make sense though. Why would you offer that, if £10m itself with no sell on would be accepted?

If anything, there's a potential to sell for about £8m with a decent sell on.

It would be easier for the buying club to just pay the full amount though. The £2m is nothing to these clubs.

It happens and probably a likely scenario.

A 10m release clause needs to be paid upfront.

We'll more likely agree on a deal of just under 10m with a clause of some sort so the buyer can pay in installments.

 

[Bigbluebear]

It happens and probably a likely scenario.

A 10m release clause needs to be paid upfront.

We'll more likely agree on a deal of just under 10m with a clause of some sort so the buyer can pay in installments.

An EPL side won't be paying £10m in installments

 

[Shota]

But would they really? Last year of contract. Club just need to say clause activated and if it's £10 million that's what it is. How much more would we realistically get with his contract running down? It's all a bit strange that the clause is activated in the final year. Again, not saying it isn’t but doesn't make sense to me.

Some people in here think we should be looking at 20m. I don’t agree with much that gets fed out to certain people but this is probably one I do agree with.

I think the release clause in the final year is quite smart tbh. Leaves the buyer an exact sum they can buy the player for and no real tough negotiating.

Easy for both parties that way.

 

[Shota]

An EPL side won't be paying £10m in installments

Sorry but you’d be surprised. Very rarely do transfers get paid upfront. Doesn’t matter how much it is, most transfers are paid in instalments. Sometimes it actually suits the seller to get paid in instalments.

 

[DeeGer10]

An EPL side won't be paying £10m in installments

It depends on the club and paying in installments may mean they can bring in more players. It's not always an affordability thing.

 

[strider]

The instalments or up-front fee is an interesting one - Leeds just knocked back £60m from Man City which would be paid as £15m a year for 4 years in favour of £43m up front.

Obviously we're talking about far larger sums so it's a different conversation, but I wonder what we'd prefer out of say £8m up front or £11m over 3 years or something like that for one of our players.

 

[Shota]

The instalments or up-front fee is an interesting one - Leeds just knocked back £60m from Man City which would be paid as £15m a year for 4 years in favour of £43m up front.

Obviously we're talking about far larger sums so it's a different conversation, but I wonder what we'd prefer out of say £8m up front or £11m over 3 years or something like that for one of our players.

Sometimes the seller prefers it, and it’s reported as say 5m upfront then 5m in add ons/instalments.

There’s less pressure to spend the full 10m on transfers that window from the fan base and then the instalments can go to other areas of the club.

 

[Ted Rangers]

The instalments or up-front fee is an interesting one - Leeds just knocked back £60m from Man City which would be paid as £15m a year for 4 years in favour of £43m up front.

Obviously we're talking about far larger sums so it's a different conversation, but I wonder what we'd prefer out of say £8m up front or £11m over 3 years or something like that for one of our players.

It probably depends on our current squad, and potential targets.

I imagine Leeds will want the money up front to fund their rebuild under a new manager. They'll have their targets and know what the price is.

With Aribo, it'll be interesting to see what the deal is. I still think it'll be £10m up front, with nothing else added.

 

[Bob Belcher]

It probably depends on our current squad, and potential targets.

I imagine Leeds will want the money up front to fund their rebuild under a new manager. They'll have their targets and know what the price is.

With Aribo, it'll be interesting to see what the deal is. I still think it'll be £10m up front, with nothing else added.

If it's a release clause, it generally has to paid up-front, in full

 

[Ted Rangers]

If it's a release clause, it generally has to paid up-front, in full

Yeah, that was the discussion, whether someone would meet the clause, or pay differently (installments for higher overall fee, less up front and a sell on etc.).

I think it suits us to get the money up front for our rebuild, in the blame way Leeds have.

 

[bobbyger]

£10m (his sell-on clause) plus a 20% sell-on fee to potential suitors and he goes with best wishes.

Can we add on a sell on fee if the release clause is set at 10m

 

[Shota]

Can we add on a sell on fee of f the release clause is set at 10m

No. If the release clause it met we need to abide by that and it’s automatically accepted.

Unless someone came in lower and we negotiated a sell on fee. Can’t really see that situation arising.

 

[Gameboy]

If it's a release clause, it generally has to paid up-front, in full

The release clause to be activated has to be paid in full to the football association of the selling club and not released until the deal is done either way.

That’s why Neymar’s lawyers went to the Spanish FA with the documents confirming the transfer of money for the PSG deal.

 

[Jimbo 1690]

Can we add on a sell on fee if the release clause is set at 10m

Who knows…..if we saw the potential and installed a release cause, perhaps we were smart enough already to include a selling on fee too……although it maybe the opposite and it maybe Aribos agent who’s installed the release clause so he’s not stuck in Scottish football forever!

 

[DeeGer10]

Can we add on a sell on fee if the release clause is set at 10m

Yes and no.

No - if a club comes in offers the release clause amount and pays it off in full upfront. The release clause value is then held with a third party until the deal is completed.

Yes - Clubs will know there's a release clause via agents but may not wish to pay upfront in favour of paying in installments. A deal is usually agreed which suits all parties. The cash portion could be more or less than the release clause but spread over installments with additional clauses put in as a sweetener for the selling club for agreeing to it.

 

[Willger]

Sometimes the seller prefers it, and it’s reported as say 5m upfront then 5m in add ons/instalments.

There’s less pressure to spend the full 10m on transfers that window from the fan base and then the instalments can go to other areas of the club.

This is true, I once sat next to a Morton director on a flight just after they had sold someone to Chelsea, he told me he refused the money up front because in his words it's like a feeding frenzy if everyone at the club thinks a big wedge has just landed. I think the player might have been David Hopkins.

 

[albop]

Our transfer business has been shocking to date
If we need to sell a player then so be it

Gotta wonder wat gio asked for a budget tho

 

[Ted Rangers]

Our transfer business has been shocking to date
If we need to sell a player then so be it

Gotta wonder wat gio asked for a budget tho

Don't use the B word in here.