Official The Winter 2021/22 Rangers Transfer Window Rumours and Deals - Thread

Bordeaux

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“It’s appearance-based, European-based, with a big sell-on, we’ve got a significant sell-on, where we will ultimately at least get our money back.”

Thats what their chairman said in September about the deal. When he says money back he's referring to the £2m they paid for him from Groningen.
I guess it depends what we’re selling him for. If we effectively give him away to get his wages off the books then a significant % of nothing is nothing!
 

mathers1

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What are we expecting in the door ? Loans or permanents ?

I still can't see us forking out serious dough this window.
I would be looking for a loan to replace Hagi on top of a permanent deal for a right sided attacker that we’ve needed for 3 years.

Souttar isn’t essential but would be a bonus.
 

ChildOfGod

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Indeed. When GvB was asked about Lowry becoming a member of the First Team squad - like King now is - he was very non-committal. Lowry trains with them but hasn't been moved up, and given his initials on the kit, the same way King has.

As you say, Lowry did well the other night - but it wasn't the stellar performance suggested by the hyperbole on here.

I think he might get another run out tonight from the bench.
Yep .

Anyone who has played against mature professionals when both a teenager and of slim building will tell you there is a giant imo that on your game capability . It’s not about how much talent you have when these robust and game-wise sorts see you face up to them and worse you have a Scottish referee .

Lot of care required for Alex L before having him in at SPL grade imo
 

OzzyGersman

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Have to honest, I'm not getting it with Simons. Will he be a first team gamechanger for us? What is the long term benefit for us?

Just not convinced he's what we need
At the very least he would be an upgrade on Bacuna. He is a very talented player and would tear apart the SPFL diddy teams. He gets sub appearances in the league at times for one of the most talented squads in world football.
 

bkerr72

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Surely what they get back is purely dependent on how much we sell him for? For them to get their money back he'd need to be going for a significant fee which I can't see happening
Yeah he was obviously expecting him to do well up here and that hasn't happened. He's made 12 appearances this season so can't imagine there's any fee due to them there.
 

OzzyGersman

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You thinking he’s signing a new contract then? As with him being out of contract on the summer, a loan wouldn’t make sense.
I think he’ll end up signing on for PSG, I follow him on IG and he always posts positively about the club and Mbappe and Neymar in particular.

If he’s loaned out to us with his contract expiring in the summer, there is nothing stopping PSG still negotiating with his agent for a contract extension.
 

OzzyGersman

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Xavi Simons was playing alongside Mbappe about 10 days ago, no danger he's coming here :D
Mate he’s not getting games at PSG as it stands and if Ndombele comes in he’s totally out of the picture. I’d say there’s a strong chance he will be loaned out this month and it will be to a club in a league where he will get regular football. Tbh I’m not sure when we could guarantee him regular football as it would entail Aribo either dropping deeper in midfield or being pushed out right. But he’d be a good addition nonetheless.
 

Gio#56

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For what you have seen of Calvin Ramsay, would you consider? The Scottish market is pish poor in terms of monetary value and the lad looks decent.
 

Candyass

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For what you have seen of Calvin Ramsay, would you consider? The Scottish market is pish poor in terms of monetary value and the lad looks decent.
He's going to end up in England or Serie A.

Man U watch his every move & have been since last season.
 

Lovenkrands Dug

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Mate he’s not getting games at PSG as it stands and if Ndombele comes in he’s totally out of the picture. I’d say there’s a strong chance he will be loaned out this month and it will be to a club in a league where he will get regular football. Tbh I’m not sure when we could guarantee him regular football as it would entail Aribo either dropping deeper in midfield or being pushed out right. But he’d be a good addition nonetheless.
In their last 5 games he has been on the bench 4 times coming on as a sub twice and played a full 90 minutes. As an 18 year old, it's hard to get much more than that at a club like PSG.
 

cooperman

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That's because they are and have played a massive 4 senior games between them.
So? if Gio thinks they're good enough then he'll give them a chance, and if they do the job then what does it matter how many first team games they've played, how do you think the dutch have so many youngsters coming through their systems? by giving them a chance, the dutch thinking towards youth and the british is completely different, they have no qualms on playing youths if they think the player is good enough, which is an attitude we should adopt, especially in money poor leagues like ours
 

WATP

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Yes, its from the mouth of the Huddersfield chairman.

Unsure of exact %. 'Significant' and 'large' were the words he used.
A % of £500k isn’t large, they probably hoped we’d sell him for £ms…..he’s not featured so was a wage burden, best off our books if we have a suitor with a sell on for us!
 

Gio#56

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He's going to end up in England or Serie A.

Man U watch his every move & have been since last season.

Probably be another McGinn story. I will say this quietly, but a few of my Gers m8s who are football daft, think he has more potential than Paterson. I only watch Rangers games so cant really compare. But he does look decent for what I have seen.
 

Oduwa

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A % of £500k isn’t large, they probably hoped we’d sell him for £ms…..he’s not featured so was a wage burden, best off our books if we have a suitor with a sell on for us!
Do you know how percentages work?
 

Gio#56

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A % of £500k isn’t large, they probably hoped we’d sell him for £ms…..he’s not featured so was a wage burden, best off our books if we have a suitor with a sell on for us!

They hoped they would recoup £2m on him with euro appearances and games which were part of the negotiations as well as a hefty sell on fee. Think they will be disappointed in this transfer.
 

Candyass

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Probably be another McGinn story. I will say this quietly, but a few of my Gers m8s who are football daft, think he has more potential than Paterson. I only watch Rangers games so cant really compare. But he does look decent for what I have seen.
Watched a bit of the St Mirren game last night. He is extremely similar to Patterson.

Not as fast but good technique & more than good enough for us.

Reckon he will be sold to England or Italy & loaned back to them this coming summer
 

Bruce_Wayne

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So? if Gio thinks they're good enough then he'll give them a chance, and if they do the job then what does it matter how many first team games they've played, how do you think the dutch have so many youngsters coming through their systems? by giving them a chance, the dutch thinking towards youth and the british is completely different, they have no qualms on playing youths if they think the player is good enough, which is an attitude we should adopt, especially in money poor leagues like ours

How many 18 year old Dutch players have been part of a tight title race between Rangers and Celtic where every game they are under pressure?

The answer is 0. Probably a reason for that.
 

Oduwa

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How many 18 year old Dutch players have been part of a tight title race between Rangers and Celtic where every game they are under pressure?

The answer is 0. Probably a reason for that.
Made me think of Evander Sno but looks like he was 19.
Half point for that?
 

WATP

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Do you know how percentages work?
No prey tell? Insert face palm emoji!!

The point is their chairman was inferring a monetary value in his own mind and relaying that to his fan base when the large % was talked about by him, he will be raging if the quoted £500k is the figure the sell on % is on.

For us however he was just a wage burden and we’re cutting our losses, quite a well structured deal from our side, Gio will have had a big say in saying to Wilson to get rid if the opportunity presents itself. We can enter a sell fee and hope the English market pays us out further down the line.
 

Loyal72

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Have to honest, I'm not getting it with Simons. Will he be a first team gamechanger for us? What is the long term benefit for us?

Just not convinced he's what we need
18 and getting game time with PSG, aye he'd be first team gamechanger.
 

ronadamus_prime

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Gio potentially been told to move 1 or 2 on in addition to the Patterson sale before he can bring someone in?

The squad is huge. So I'd imagine that's the case. Wages are the biggest drain on our finances. If a player isn't in the managers plans, then getting them out the door is the best way to raise cash to bring players in the door.
 

cranky

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If Bacuna goes we are far weaker than we started the window, plus weve lost Hagi, something isnt right behind the scenes in my opinion.
Calm down and Join the dots. Gio quoted Money available & he hopes to bring someone in. We clear another wage from a non contributing player to allow incoming player(s)

Clearly there is a need to get rid of players not playing so as to free up wages to bring in someone who will contribute.

Was worried until I saw this outgoing but now convinced an incoming is done
 

Edmond Dantes

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Calm down and Join the dots. Gio quoted Money available & he hopes to bring someone in. We clear another wage from a non contributing player to allow incoming player(s)

Clearly there is a need to get rid of players not playing so as to free up wages to bring in someone who will contribute.

Was worried until I saw this outgoing but now convinced an incoming is done

thats how I felt seeing it
 
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