SuperGers07
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The manager has to get Steven Davis into the midfield asap, starting tomorrow and get him match sharp.
For us to have a chance, we need him in that side firing.
Their game tonight
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For us to have a chance, we need him in that side firing.
SuperGers07
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nothing surer. I expect Killie to lie down on sunday
DMAA
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At Parkhead it won’t happen or work though. If you look at the home and away tables you’ll see that teams have figured them out on their own ground but at Parkhead they’ve only conceded 4 all season in the league never mind lost a game.
StuGers
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I don’t think Valencia have a massive upcoming black hole due to compensation for years of systematic child about cover ups through...
squaddie-bear
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Who has used this tactic against them at home (their midden)? No-one domestically.
Almost every European team who has tried this has put them to the sword though.
Nottinghamloyal
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Agree with this horses for courses he should of asked Walter how it’s done! WATP
Sebo1872
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An organised press on them and they sh*t the bed, it's been seen and proven on a few occasions domestically against the likes of Hibs, Hearts and ourselves more recently.
If you LET them play from the park they will hurt you, it's easy to sit in and try and contain them but it takes bravery to press high but it is usually rewarded.
If you LET them play from the park they will hurt you, it's easy to sit in and try and contain them but it takes bravery to press high but it is usually rewarded.
Most teams in this league attack them,apart from ourselves,Killie and Hearts,the rest sit off them. When they come up against sides that are pacey,they struggle,still think we are in with a chance. Killie have to take something from them to stay in touch,even a draw and we win against St.Johnstone,if we can negotiate these games Alfredo and Greegs are out for,then we'll be in it to win it,but it's still one game at a time for me.
Amato Turn
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They really can't handle being pressed.
We saw it at Ibrox at New Years. We've seen it at Tynecastle when Hearts have turned them over a few times. We see it every time they play in Europe.
They insist on trying to play out from the back but the players they have are simply not capable of it.
Broon, Boyata, Izaguirre, Lustig, etc.
If you press these guys they will give you the ball back time and time again in dangerous areas where you can quickly get at them.
Rodgers is much like Warburton in that respect, he won't change.
The problem is they get away with it in the SPFL because most of the teams they play don't employ a high press, they play with a low block, they stand off, they sit deep and they try to contain. That's not - and it's never been - the way to play Rodgers' scum side.
You press them high up the pitch and you get after them aggressively.
It was men against b(h)oys last night with Kondogbia in the centre of the park bitch slapping every scum player that went near him.
We saw it at Ibrox at New Years. We've seen it at Tynecastle when Hearts have turned them over a few times. We see it every time they play in Europe.
They insist on trying to play out from the back but the players they have are simply not capable of it.
Broon, Boyata, Izaguirre, Lustig, etc.
If you press these guys they will give you the ball back time and time again in dangerous areas where you can quickly get at them.
Rodgers is much like Warburton in that respect, he won't change.
The problem is they get away with it in the SPFL because most of the teams they play don't employ a high press, they play with a low block, they stand off, they sit deep and they try to contain. That's not - and it's never been - the way to play Rodgers' scum side.
You press them high up the pitch and you get after them aggressively.
It was men against b(h)oys last night with Kondogbia in the centre of the park bitch slapping every scum player that went near him.
londonbluenose
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They have been there for the taking all season, we have just dropped too many points where we really shouldnt be.
Lets hope Killie can get something off them on Sunday, they then go to Tynecastle 10 days later.
But we must win our games! Expect 9 points before going to Easter Road
Lets hope Killie can get something off them on Sunday, they then go to Tynecastle 10 days later.
But we must win our games! Expect 9 points before going to Easter Road
Having seen how much they struggle with a high pressing game, it absolutely baffles me that Tommy Wright and a few others still approach games against the mentally challengeds with a “sit-in and soak it up” mentality with the hope they will escape with a 0-0 or somehow nick a goal.
I realise that you need players with ability to implement a proper high pressing game but you would think the likes of St Johnstone would realise what works and what doesn’t after having their arses handed to them 3 times in two weeks.
Kilmarnock will do the same on Sunday and the filth will win as a result. Our best hope of them dropping points will be when they go to Hearts as Levein isn’t scared to have a go at them.
Amato Turn
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To an extent I can understand St Johnstone doing it as they're basically shit. Hard working, well organised but essentially fecking garbage. Kilmarnock too as they've shown they can sit in against the scum and get a result playing that way.
It's Derek McInnes who needs his baws kicked for me. He has a team the match (if not better) of Hearts and Hibs and yet whilst the Edinburgh clubs have a go against the scum and get rewarded with some decent results against them old shitebag McInnes shits himself every time and plays too cautiously against them almost always resulting in a defeat (unless the scum decide to throw the game to help them finish above us).
Sadly so too have we in recent years - though I hope the last game will see a sea change in our approach as our players must surely now realise they're not unbeatable and they can be got at.
DMAA
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I think you need that added quality that we lack to do it there though.
starting this weekend with kilmarnock, but i suspect kilmarnock will have their eyes on a bigger game in midweek. just the normal for all other teams.
squaddie-bear
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I somewhat agree, i can kind of understand why the "lesser" teams don't do the pressing game against them at the midden as they just don't have the players good enough to do it.
I genuinely believe that we do have that quality, we showed that at new year. I think Gerrard realised that he made a mistake by not pressing them in the first OF game of the season.
DMAA
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I think the problem is that at home they will try and press us and pen us in like we did them. If we try and do the same it could be interesting but I’m not convinced it would be as effective without the home advantage.
Caldow1872
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Caldow1872
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No we didn’t Valencia 8th, Villareal 19th
Absolutely. It seems to have gone backwards since the winter break bizarrely.
Double_Dutch_Bouncy
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The thing that struck me was how surprised the folk on Radio Scotland sounded at how easily Valencia brushed Celtic aside.
They kept banging on about how this was a shock due to Celtic's brilliant form since the return from the winter break.
Lets break down that form shall we.
Before last night they had played 7 and won 7 since the break beating;
Airdrie
St Mirren
Hamilton
Hibs
St Johnstone x3
Thats as easy a run of games they could have asked for considering the standing or form of those teams.
It's as if they honestly expected the poets to run over Valencia.
Madness.
They kept banging on about how this was a shock due to Celtic's brilliant form since the return from the winter break.
Lets break down that form shall we.
Before last night they had played 7 and won 7 since the break beating;
Airdrie
St Mirren
Hamilton
Hibs
St Johnstone x3
Thats as easy a run of games they could have asked for considering the standing or form of those teams.
It's as if they honestly expected the poets to run over Valencia.
Madness.
Gibbonbear
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I don't usually watch them but I saw that they were getting gubbed and switched over to watch it and thoroughly enjoyed watching them chasing shadows .
The only downside was the gangrene brigade giving it their full Iranaway repetoire including swearing references to her majesty the Queen, but no doubt the mhedia will be tearing them to shreds for their tasteless antics
Another highlight was watching the totally impartial Sutton ,Hartson and McDonald almost in tears at the end
PalefaceRedskin
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I don't usually watch them but I saw that they were getting gubbed and switched over to watch it and thoroughly enjoyed watching them chasing shadows .
The only downside was the gangrene brigade giving it their full Iranaway repetoire including swearing references to her majesty the Queen, but no doubt the mhedia will be tearing them to shreds for their tasteless antics
Another highlight was watching the totally impartial Sutton ,Hartson and McDonald almost in tears at the end
I can see that approach would he fun too.
Serious point on their paramilitary wing is report the sectarian and offensive chanting to the police, Fare. And UEFA. They won’t do anything but the more logs of their behaviour there is, the more difficult it becomes for them to focus on us as Fare have done this season.
Marstonbear
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Fucking hell, that journo won’t be getting an invite back to Parkhead
the dug
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Wee bit off topic but I only heard the score this morning on breakfast telly. Wee gadge that does the sport started laughing as he reported the dhims result. His co-presenter was making him laugh somehow but I pictured a mass of their heads exploding at the very thought of him laughing at a sporting tragedy like them getting pumped.
Made me chuckle.
Made me chuckle.
Midfield General
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Absolute nonsense,there's no way Clark is going to send his team out not to win.Do you seriously believe,if selected,Jones,Boyd,Broadfoot and Burke won't be trying.leave the paranoia to the dark side mate.
Drumchapel-Bear
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A coordinated high press does work against them. Their players aren't good enough to play out from the back constantly. It's easier said than done on that big pitch at Parkhead though, especially for most SPFL Teams.
Killie have only lost a couple of times to them in nearly two years under Clarke so he's not going to change his approach now.
Killie have only lost a couple of times to them in nearly two years under Clarke so he's not going to change his approach now.
alister1972
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What a lot of sh1te.
It's a football field same size ,two goals.At the end of the day it's solely down to players.If players are affected negatively by fans singing and chanting from stands they shouldn't be playing professional football
RFC#1Scotty
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Kilmarnock are NOT going to lie down. The fact Kilmarnock have done this well this season, they are fighting for at least 3rd and if they beat Celtic, they reduce the gap by 3 points and they know consistency could see them close it further. They would want to try and keep up with us even for pride sake.
Yes, I know they're never really going to catch Celtic in hindsight, but I don't believe they'll just lie down, they'll want to finish this season on the highest they can get.
Yes, I know they're never really going to catch Celtic in hindsight, but I don't believe they'll just lie down, they'll want to finish this season on the highest they can get.
ClockworkOrange
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The same Killie that have taken more points against them over the past few seasons than we have?
Shite comment.
Woodrow Call
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Nah. I'm happy with the three we have. Arfield and Alfie pressing Brown gives us a great chance.
Woodrow Call
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So how come just about every team in the world wins more home than away games?
Some people on here are just very strange.
Killie wont lie down nor have they before, they beat them 2-1 in the reverse fixture earlier in the season.
I think the mentally challengeds will win on Sunday unfortunately, they have done well since the break.
Its up to us to do our job tomorrow.
Medicant in my work was at the game last night and said valencia never pressed, they sat off and then sprung on the yahoos with pace when they invariably gave the ball away.
Stats say the opposite.
6 of them at home to boot!
Ibrox and porkhead are same size I believe.
Beanyrfc79
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