Three cheers for the red, white and blue

Kirky loyalist

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A massive gripe and moan from me.

For the army and the navy and the uvf

WHY???

This weekend brought it to a head for me.

On the pitch we had the army, the navy and the RAF but we sang about the army, navy and uvf....why?

Annoys the hell out of me.
The uvf and in particular the 36th Ulster division ( part of the army ) fought in WW1 to defend our country . I for one will always honour them
 

Papasmurf

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As someone who served for 32 years in the Royal Air Force I’m with @Papasmurf on this one. I think folks are hiding behind the WW1 thing if I’m honest.

Always felt a bit left out when my branch of the Armed Forces was missed out.
There we have it folks.

VB. your service is unbelievably appreciated.

No bear means anything by it, but it’s something else that should change. Imo.

Thanks from me and I’m sure all.
 

Jase

Active Member
We need to keep a tight rein on what is sung. Maximum vigilance is necessary to keep UEFA off our back.

We quite rightly play feck about their IRA shite so let’s not kid ourselves on that the modern day UVF are a bunch of girl guides.
 

JayDee

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Well in WW1 it was the army, the navy and the uvf were also considered as part of the home defence more so in Northern Ireland as the RAF weren’t about until the end of the war.
The RAF was founded during WWI. Before that there was the Royal Flying Corps (RFC!).
 

a_weir

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A massive gripe and moan from me.

For the army and the navy and the uvf

WHY???

This weekend brought it to a head for me.

On the pitch we had the army, the navy and the RAF but we sang about the army, navy and uvf....why?

Annoys the hell out of me.
The real answer is because it’s ‘proper staunch’ to shoehorn in anything about the UVF, IRA or whatever wherever possible.

Gets a few sniggers between groups of people when sung, grows in to an official addon.

Not strictly related to this but it pains me that one of the loudest lyrics sometimes is ‘%^*& Bobby sands...’. Our fans signing louder about bobby sands, who has %^*& all to do with RFC, than the team itself.

Bedtime for me, I think.
 

a_weir

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Plenty other army regiments who could be directly referenced. The fact that it is only one, consistently, with links to something else, tells all that is needed about it.
Personally, I’d like to see the RNLI incorporated as we have genuine links to the water, via Clyde rowing club.
 

AdiGaz

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A massive gripe and moan from me.

For the army and the navy and the uvf

WHY???

This weekend brought it to a head for me.

On the pitch we had the army, the navy and the RAF but we sang about the army, navy and uvf....why?

Annoys the hell out of me.
Because some people still think its cool. The politics in football does my head in
 

SFLFB

Active Member
Whilst i understand your gripe papasmurf, might I share with you the words of Wilfred Spender, who was a Plymouth-born newspaper manager, and during ww1 was quartermaster of the Ulster Volunteers, general staff officer of the 36th (Ulster) Division, winner of the Military Cross for actions at Thiepval, and Cabinet Secretary of the new “Northern Ireland” in 1921.
He wrote “I am not an Ulsterman but yesterday, the First of July, as I followed their amazing attack, I felt that I would rather be an Ulsterman than anything else in the world. My pen cannot describe adequately the hundreds of heroic acts I witnessed, the Ulster Volunteer Force, from which the Division was made, has won a name that equals any in history. Their devotion deserves the gratitude of the British empire.”
 

It Is Old But Beautiful

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Here comes the folk who claim to have never sang these songs. I don’t see why folk have a gripe with it, it’s celebrating the culture of Northern Ireland and a lot of folk are forgetting how many Ulster Scots migrated to Scotland and particularly Glasgow and the surrounding area. Is it sectarian? No. If you are complaining then why don’t you start other chants within Ibrox.

The Ulster Volunteer Force played a pivotal role within the British Army during WW1.
 

Papasmurf

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Here comes the folk who claim to have never sang these songs. I don’t see why folk have a gripe with it, it’s celebrating the culture of Northern Ireland and a lot of folk are forgetting how many Ulster Scots migrated to Scotland and particularly Glasgow and the surrounding area. Is it sectarian? No.

The Ulster Volunteer Force played a pivotal role within the British Army during WW1.
Who said it’s sectarian?

On the pitch we had the army, the navy and the raf. But we cheered the army, the navy and the uvf.

It’s not tough to get why some might not like it? Shirley
 

It Is Old But Beautiful

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Who said it’s sectarian?

On the pitch we had the army, the navy and the raf. But we cheered the army, the navy and the uvf.

It’s not tough to get why some might not like it? Shirley
The RAF of today had little to no involvement in WW1. The Royal Flying Corps were encompassed in the Army and the RAF was founded in April 1918.
 
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