Tried for a second time to engage one of them about the football.

Unfortunate enough to have worked with some just before our problems began with whyte. They never spoke about their defeats, all silence, but couldnt shut them up when they won a game.
Always took delight in shaking hands with bears in the work and smiling the biggest grin when we beat them. Last time was when we beat them 3_2 at Ibrox to stop them winning the league . Moved to another job shortly after and was so happy to leave behind their absolute bitterness and hatred.
There is one in my local who would always want to shake hands when they won.One of the reasons I am looking forward to the pubs 're opening.
Another one back when we were doing our 9 in a row actually renounced 'ra celic and said he was now a Real Madrid supporter.Faifull froo and Froo.:)
 
And for the second time I got a curt 'Don't want to talk about it...'. So that's it, off the agenda. Different when it's us in chaos, they can't wait to pontificate and moralise. The ones in their early 20s know nothing apart from success and they're totally and utterly incapable of handling this shit they're in.
You deserve all you get.
 
One of my mates is 41 or so and hasn’t opened a WhatsApp message from me since Sunday at 4pm!

A Rangers defeat and he is on the phone and pounding me with messages and comments about it.
They have forgotten what it is to be a football fan, they have forgotten humility and they have forgotten humour.
 
Christ man, I don’t know how you deal with that. Your own kid supporting them and coming out with stuff like that.

I have one main rule for my daughter.

I don't care what race, religion or gender of the person you go out with. Just make sure it's never a Celtic fan. Sometimes people think I'm being funny until they see my face while I am saying it.
 
I am the wrong side of 50, and they have always been as described in this thread.
Enjoy giving the patter, but the minute they have to take it, and not just from Rangers fans,they have an emotional breakdown of sorts.
Just remember, more or less to a man they are brainwashed from an early age.
They are always cheated, never defeated.
Rarely do they accept they are beaten fair and square and every problem they have in life, not just their football club is someone eles fault.
 
It’s always been the same they were sore losers from as far back as I remember . Your classic example of being happy to dish it out but can’t take it back . A particularly odd trait of the yahoo , they could win 100 titles on the spin and still obsess about Rangers .
I've been thinking about your 1st sentence since all this started happening (them starting to crack and go a bit off the rails). And the question that's been running through my brain, that I'm still no closer to solving is - are they worse losers or worse winners? Because they are terrible at both
 
I have one main rule for my daughter.

I don't care what race, religion or gender of the person you go out with. Just make sure it's never a Celtic fan. Sometimes people think I'm being funny until they see my face while I am saying it.
Agreed . I’ve got extended family , cousins etc who are Catholic and live down south , support arsenal . They are sound people and bear no resemblance whatsoever to your average west of Scotland yahoo . I couldn’t give a monkeys what religion anyone is , but there is something off about a lot of Celtic supporters . Not all , I have met some decent ones over the years , but I have to say they are few and far between .
 
I see the delusion is still there for some, heard a bit of a scum podcast and the guy said we can still win the league as we have shown in the past we can beat Rangers whenever we want.

So its obviously still 2016 for some.

Absolutely mental that some of them still go on like this, it's a sickness.
 
My nephew was telling me at the weekend his Tim pal thinks their 5m goalie is better than Mcgregor & wasn’t taking no for an answer ! Nephew absolutely pounded him. We could have Messi playing up front for us & they’d still think Griffiths is a better player, that’s how entrenched they are about they’re players compared to ours.

Their opinions mean nothing, it's on the field of play that matters
 
I see the delusion is still there for some, heard a bit of a scum podcast and the guy said we can still win the league as we have shown in the past we can beat Rangers whenever we want.

So its obviously still 2016 for some.

Absolutely mental that some of them still go on like this, it's a sickness.
Careful, there is a long way to the finishing line.

We are in a strong position, but we can take absolutely nothing as granted.
 
Careful, there is a long way to the finishing line.

We are in a strong position, but we can take absolutely nothing as granted.
Yes I know but he said they can beat us whenever they want which simply isn't true considering Gerrard has won more old firms since he joined us.
 
My nephew was telling me at the weekend his Tim pal thinks their 5m goalie is better than Mcgregor & wasn’t taking no for an answer ! Nephew absolutely pounded him. We could have Messi playing up front for us & they’d still think Griffiths is a better player, that’s how entrenched they are about they’re players compared to ours.

They are all the same. They have no capacity for reason, or the ability to be objective. It is like they in a cult rather than being football supporters. Even the ones that outwardly look fairly normal and can talk quite normally about many things, become deeply weird and incoherent when their rancid club is mentioned. Disturbed bunch the lot of them.
 
Since 2012 I take no sh*t from any of them. Ex friends who support them, done, workmates I just get stuck right in. Remind them of BJK, cheating, tours of Japan, placemen in the governing bodies and media patsies. They are scum, they support a scum team and I have no time for any of them.
Lawell has a deep rooted hatred for us and has been aided by various others. I wish them nothing but ill will. F--k them all!
 
Zero tolerance for the nonce filth. Too many bad memories from living in Clydebank ( Duntocher and Whitecrook). Pure poisonous scum.
Wow, Duntocher and Green and Whitecrook, talk about being behind enemy lines. Some bits of Clydebank are not bad but those two are hoaching with the unwashed.
 
I changed jobs back in March, haven't really had the chance to get to know anybody in the new place socially/football team wise. Wee bit of chat about the Scotland game but that was it.

My old place however, had a wee group of them that all sat together near the door so could never avoid them. Dished it out left right and centre for 4 years. In particular one wee arrogant sneering fuckpig in his early 20s, Groin Brigade member, student politics etc. who's never known anything but them winning it.

I still know all their email addresses :))

They would already be gone as a club if what happened to us had happened to them, and they know it. I also always remind them that the highlight of their " golden era " is a 1-13 annihilation by PSG. lol
 
They have always been this way. Having grown up among them as a young boy in the 1950s I realised very quickly that while you could always tell a Celtic supporter, you couldn’t tell them much. I was often told by them and their families that Celtic was not a football club, it was a cause.
 
There is one in my local who would always want to shake hands when they won.One of the reasons I am looking forward to the pubs 're opening.
Another one back when we were doing our 9 in a row actually renounced 'ra celic and said he was now a Real Madrid supporter.Faifull froo and Froo.:)
Used to be a few in my local would do that when they won against us or they won the league go round wanting to shake hands i refused and they would be raging calling me a bigot and everything ,i just say to them ffs mate you sat and watched it on the telly in the pub its not like you just played 90 mins in the game to win it , doesnt deserve a hand shake
 
And for the second time I got a curt 'Don't want to talk about it...'. So that's it, off the agenda. Different when it's us in chaos, they can't wait to pontificate and moralise. The ones in their early 20s know nothing apart from success and they're totally and utterly incapable of handling this shit they're in. Everyone of them I ever met was always the same. It’s the passive/aggressive’did you see the game at the weekend’ and when they lose it’s no time/too busy/ not discussing etc. They will ONLY talk when they win.
 
My supervisor at work is like that. Wants to talk and comes across as the voice of reason when we were struggling, always had something to say after an old firm game or after a Rangers loss but lately he’s been silent.

I don’t say anything I just revel in the fact I know it’s eating him alive
 
The ones ive said "they are actually alright" tend to just hide it better. At some point they always show that deep down they are all absolutely mental.

"Madness as you know, is a lot like gravity. All it takes is a little push"
This, 100%. Took 5 dropped points in a week for someone I thought was normal and sane to start retweeting things about resolution 12.
 
From the heights of 67 and 70 when they were at the pinnacle of football, nine in a row, blah blah blah, kings of Europe, blah blah blah, invincibles???
And all the while generations of young people in their care were subjected to Torbett, Cairney and Mccafferty (and the rest).
Everything they stand for needs exposed !!! A few bad results and the vile comes shining through. Shown up in their true light. Undesirables.
 
My Father in Law just phoned me, saying a complete stranger wearing a sellick trackie top, no less than 50 has just interrupted his conversation in the shop.
My FIL is full of carry on and was noising up a woman from his street, laughing and joking, asking what has happened to them and was she out rioting.
This arsehole butt's in, aggressively saying he won't be laughing when they win the league.
FIL told him to f off, he wasn't talking to him.
8.30am in front of school kids.
They are losing their shit.
I was getting off the train last night in Paisley Canal and some idiots were under the stairs, now I say idiots, I mean someone easily mid 40's in a scum trackie talking loudly to his pals about how "the 10 is still on" "Don't buy into the media lies" etc etc

Couldn't help but laugh
 
And for the second time I got a curt 'Don't want to talk about it...'. So that's it, off the agenda. Different when it's us in chaos, they can't wait to pontificate and moralise. The ones in their early 20s know nothing apart from success and they're totally and utterly incapable of handling this shit they're in.
Your first problem came in trying to treat them like normal human beings.

Your second came in even trying to converse with one
 
And for the second time I got a curt 'Don't want to talk about it...'. So that's it, off the agenda. Different when it's us in chaos, they can't wait to pontificate and moralise. The ones in their early 20s know nothing apart from success and they're totally and utterly incapable of handling this shit they're in.

I hope you learn from your mistake mate.
 
I'm honestly not trying to be staunch but I just rarely engage with any of them about football. I'm actually not that interested in football but obsessed with Rangers so the thought of speaking to one of them about Rangers just baffles me.

I speak to them but not about football.

Remove them from your life and you'll not have to concern yourself with trying to rationalise their behaviour.
Up until 2011 or so I was quite ambivalent about scum supports and would have been happy enough to talk football & OK with some banter.
However as 2012 unfolded I happened to have been put in a situation of occasionally socialising with one who was as bitter as they come, knew all about our accounts and lived in a green haze of conspiracy theories and probably still gives Phil 3 names money.
Our wives happened to get along really well which is why the socialising came about.
We got invited to a do at his house, his signed 67 strip framed and given pride of place on a wall with his share certificate next to it.
During this event he starts talking about Dave King and his clash with the SA tax authorities blah blah blah.
I took the opportunity to remind him of his boast of dodging his final tax bill from working abroad (where I'd met him) and how pleased he'd been with him self. Then gave him some about obsessing about another club more than the one he supported, referred to Fritzel as Desmond Dermot (that really bugged him :) ) and his dodgy care home & media deals...picked up on those reading Irish papers when over.
Not seen him since albeit our wives remain friends.
He made my mind up to cleanse my life and keep it scum free as possible and I'm the better for it.
I can only imagine (with glee) the pain and anger he's enduring ATM.
 
Thats a second of your life you will never get back. better to ignore and laugh as you walk past or walk away, being part of the collective is never seeing the truth thats what they are taught
 
Up until 2011 or so I was quite ambivalent about scum supports and would have been happy enough to talk football & OK with some banter.

I think a lot of us share a similar outlook to that time.

Up to that point, out of my group of friends there was one or two 'decent tims' who were not bitter. But the events of 2012 made their masks slip. I have known them for many, many years and I never seen them so venomous in their attacks on our club. It certainly wasn't banter anymore amongst it. It turned heated. Whereas before they would always take everyone's opinion on board, but not now.

Since those days, the friendships i had with them are not even remotely the same.
 
They're getting a torrid time in my work just now, i'm happy just smiling at them but a few others are taking them on big time which is great fun.
 
And for the second time I got a curt 'Don't want to talk about it...'. So that's it, off the agenda. Different when it's us in chaos, they can't wait to pontificate and moralise. The ones in their early 20s know nothing apart from success and they're totally and utterly incapable of handling this shit they're in.
Tony the mentally challenged at our place aka Thick Tony has four interesting default positions this week "Its good they got knocked out of Europe/Betfred as they are concentrating on the 10 in a row now". "Im boycotting the club until "they" go' - Not likely to happen really. 'Im buying all my Celtic themed Christmas pressies from JD's not the Club Store then the club dont get any money" tried to explain Wholesale/Retail and Image Rights so the club still get money but whooooosh! Best of all mentally challengedBarriergate Sunday was either " a bit of banter that got out of hand caused by a minority" or "justifiable rage and anger felt by the green hordes against a group of Tories ( I kid you not) who have taken "their" club and installed an inept manager to keep the Old Firm Cash Cow going" honestly no words thick as mince!
 
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