UEFA CL/EL/ECL Qualifying games

ahalfallover said:
already getting feeling this new European tournament is going to be pointless .

they decided what day these games will be played on? with champion league mainly being Tuesday/Wednesday and Europa also on Thursday.
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TBF these are the same games you would've gotten at that stage in the Europa League last year. It's Q3 and the playoff the teams improve a bit.
 
Chris01 said:
I’m sure Eduoard is away to the Olympics during their qualifying game too (if they don’t sell him Ofcourse)
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It's probably why there is more talk of Édouard going that Ajer.

They can still use Ajer to try and get through, Édouard won't be able to play and probably won't be available until near the end of the Olympics.
 
Euro Scooter said:
Sorry, I'm not stalking you, honestly:D. You're spot on. Porto have been tracking him for a couple of years now. There are a couple of mid-level La Liga clubs interested also.
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Always thought he would make a good Hagi replacement if he was moved on but probably end up at an even higher level of league
 
Celtic will face Danish Superliga runners-up Midtjylland in the Champions League second qualifying round.

Ange Postecoglou's first test will come at home, with the first leg on 20/21 July and the return the following week.

In the Conference League, Aberdeen will face Hacken of Sweden and Hibernian will play Mons Calpe of Gibraltar or Andorra's Santa Coloma.

Both will be at home in the second qualifying round on July 22, with the return leg a week later.
 
Bigeye said:
Celtic will face Danish Superliga runners-up Midtjylland in the Champions League second qualifying round.

Ange Postecoglou's first test will come at home, with the first leg on 20/21 July and the return the following week.

In the Conference League, Aberdeen will face Hacken of Sweden and Hibernian will play Mons Calpe of Gibraltar or Andorra's Santa Coloma.

Both will be at home in the second qualifying round on July 22, with the return leg a week later.
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If they attack them like they attacked us then the rattlers are out. Would be ideal if they got knocked out as it would send them into the conference league group stage were the money is dire compared to CL and EL. They would also probably hammer a lot of the pish teams in it and raise the co efficient as well, win win for us.
 
NoOneLikesUs said:
If they attack them like they attacked us then the rattlers are out. Would be ideal if they got knocked out as it would send them into the conference league group stage were the money is dire compared to CL and EL. They would also probably hammer a lot of the pish teams in it and raise the co efficient as well, win win for us.
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So much of this is wrong.:)

If they lose to the Danes they go to Europa League QR3. If they lose in ELQR3 they go to the Conference League play-off. It’s only if they lose at Europa League play-off round that they go to Conference League group stages. They could easily go out of Europe altogether, which would be nice.

Teams likely to be in the Conference League include Roma, Anderlecht, Feyenoord, Basel and Spurs. The Dhims won’t be hammering any of that lot.

Early indications are that the money in the Conference League is lower than the Europa League but the drop-off is not as dramatic as it is from CL to EL.
 
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NoOneLikesUs said:
If they attack them like they attacked us then the rattlers are out. Would be ideal if they got knocked out as it would send them into the conference league group stage were the money is dire compared to CL and EL. They would also probably hammer a lot of the pish teams in it and raise the co efficient as well, win win for us.
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Coefficient points in that will be shocking.
You see the difference from CL to EL. Will be loads less again for the Conference.
 
Bigeye said:
Celtic will face Danish Superliga runners-up Midtjylland in the Champions League second qualifying round.

Ange Postecoglou's first test will come at home, with the first leg on 20/21 July and the return the following week.

In the Conference League, Aberdeen will face Hacken of Sweden and Hibernian will play Mons Calpe of Gibraltar or Andorra's Santa Coloma.

Both will be at home in the second qualifying round on July 22, with the return leg a week later.
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Aberdeen could be out against that lot
 
NoOneLikesUs said:
If they attack them like they attacked us then the rattlers are out. Would be ideal if they got knocked out as it would send them into the conference league group stage were the money is dire compared to CL and EL. They would also probably hammer a lot of the pish teams in it and raise the co efficient as well, win win for us.
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Valley Bluenose said:
So much of this is wrong.:)

If they lose to the Danes they go to Europa League QR3. If they lose in ELQR3 they go to the Conference League play-off. It’s only if they lose at Europa League play-off round that they go to Conference League group stages. They could easily go out of Europe altogether, which would be nice.

Early indications are that the money in the Conference League is lower than the Europa League but the drop-off is not as dramatic as it is from CL to EL.
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Not much difference in the money between the EL and ECL only exception is TV money (Market Pool)

 
Valley Bluenose said:
So much of this is wrong.:)

If they lose to the Danes they go to Europa League QR3. If they lose in ELQR3 they go to the Conference League play-off. It’s only if they lose at Europa League play-off round that they go to Conference League group stages. They could easily go out of Europe altogether, which would be nice.

Early indications are that the money in the Conference League is lower than the Europa League but the drop-off is not as dramatic as it is from CL to EL.
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You might be right but I’m not so sure, pretty sure they’re guaranteed group stage football at some level this season. There was a big kick up about it a few weeks ago because they were supposedly guaranteed it and we weren’t even though we are champions.
 
Jamie1873 said:
Coefficient points in that will be shocking.
You see the difference from CL to EL. Will be loads less again for the Conference.
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UEFA Documents

documents.uefa.com documents.uefa.com

D.4.1 Points awarded in the UEFA Champions League​

  1. Qualifying phase and play-offs
    • Clubs that are eliminated in the UEFA Champions League qualifying phase or play-offs are awarded points in the UEFA Europa League or UEFA Europa Conference League (see Annex D.4.2 and Annex D.4.3).
  2. Group stage onwards
    • 2 points awarded for a win;
    • 1 point awarded for a draw;
    • 0 points awarded for a defeat.

D.4.2 Points awarded in the UEFA Europa League​

  1. Qualifying phase and play-offs
    • Clubs that are eliminated in the UEFA Europa League qualifying phase or play-offs are awarded points in the UEFA Europa Conference League (see Annex D.4.3).
  2. Group stage onwards (except knockout round play-offs)
    • 2 points awarded for a win;
    • 1 point awarded for a draw;
    • 0 points awarded for a defeat.
  3. Guaranteed minimum
    Clubs are guaranteed a minimum of three points in the group stage of the UEFA Europa League even if the number of points actually obtained during this stage is lower. This guaranteed minimum is not added to points actually obtained in the group stage and is not included in the association coefficient calculation.

D.4.3 Points awarded in the UEFA Europa Conference League​

  1. Qualifying phase and play-offs
    • 1 point awarded to each club eliminated in the first qualifying round;
    • 1.5 points awarded to each club eliminated in the second qualifying round;
    • 2 points awarded to each club eliminated in the third qualifying round;
    • 2.5 points awarded to each club eliminated in the play-offs.
  2. Group stage onwards (except knockout round play-offs)
    • 2 points awarded for a win;
    • 1 point awarded for a draw;
    • 0 points awarded for a defeat.
  3. Guaranteed minimum
    Clubs are guaranteed a minimum of 2.5 points in the group stage of the UEFA Europa Conference League, even if the number of points actually obtained during this stage is lower. This guaranteed minimum is not added to points actually obtained in the group stage and is not included in the association coefficient calculation.

D.5 Bonus points​


Clubs that reach the round of 16, quarter-finals, semi-finals or final of the UEFA Champions League or UEFA Europa League, or the semi-finals or final of the UEFA Europa Conference League are awarded an extra point for each such round.
In addition:
  1. four points are awarded for participation in the group stage of the UEFA Champions League and four points for qualifying for the round of 16;
  2. four points are awarded to the group winners of the UEFA Europa League and two points to the group runners-up;
  3. two points are awarded to the group winners of the UEFA Europa Conference League and one point to the group runners-up.
These bonus points are also included in the association coefficient calculation.
 
NoOneLikesUs said:
You might be right but I’m not so sure, pretty sure they’re guaranteed group stage football at some level this season. There was a big kick up about it a few weeks ago because they were supposedly guaranteed it and we weren’t even though we are champions.
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No mate, they aren’t. Rangers are guaranteed group stage of one sort or another. Follow the lines;)

 
NoOneLikesUs said:
You might be right but I’m not so sure, pretty sure they’re guaranteed group stage football at some level this season. There was a big kick up about it a few weeks ago because they were supposedly guaranteed it and we weren’t even though we are champions.
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There was a newspaper article but the point was different. If they lose CLQ3 (they have not got there yet remember) they go straight to EL groups. If we lose CLQ3 we go to EL PO round.
If they lose all 3 rounds they are out, if we lose all our rounds we are ECL groups.
 
It's a pity the second leg isn't at the piggery, would prefer them to get humiliated in front of the moon howlers themselves.
 
nelster said:
Midtjylland start their season on 16th July

Don’t think those Brazil and Nigeria players are at the Euros either.

Its an absolute nightmare of a draw for Celtic

B-D
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It’s not really that big an advantage as the first leg is only 4 days later.
 
nelster said:
Midtjylland start their season on 16th July

Don’t think those Brazil and Nigeria players are at the Euros either.

Its an absolute nightmare of a draw for Celtic

B-D
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They are getting put out, no doubt about it
 
had a wee look at the Midtjylland forum and came across this-

Christian wrote: ↑
16 Jun 2021, 13:27
Given our performance when we met Rangers, this seems like a tough game.
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Rangers play much better internationally than Celtic because Rangers play compact counter-football. Out of the 7 goals they scored against us, 5 were on counter, 1 goal in open play and 1 on a set piece.

Celtic play far more offensively and "naively" as they do in the Scottish league. We can more easily have a more waiting role.
WE have far better chances against Celtic than we had against Rangers. Far better.
 
the_ref said:
3rd round qualifier

Code: 
Seeded clubs                   coef.             Unseeded clubs                 coef.
------------------------ --- ----------------    ------------------------ --- ----------------
Dinamo Zagreb *          Cro  44.500             Ludogorets Razgrad *     Bul  28.000
Slavia Praha             Cze  43.500             Malmö FF *               Swe  18.500
Olympiakos Piraeus **    Gre  43.000             CFR Cluj *               Rom  16.500
Young Boys **            Sui  35.000             Legia Warsaw *           Pol  16.500
Red Star Belgrade **     Srb  32.500             Sheriff Tiraspol *       Mol  14.500
Glasgow Rangers          Sco  31.250             Ferencváros *            Hun  13.500

Play-off round
Code: 
Seeded clubs                   coef.             Unseeded clubs                 coef.
------------------------ --- ----------------    ------------------------ --- ----------------
FC Salzburg              Aut  59.000             Young Boys **            Sui  35.000
Dinamo Zagreb *          Cro  44.500             Red Star Belgrade **     Srb  32.500
Slavia Praha *3          Cze  43.500             Glasgow Rangers *3       Sco  31.250
Olympiakos Piraeus **    Gre  43.000             Brøndby IF               Den   7.000
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Midgetland to pap out the papes
Rangers to romp home against Ferencvaros

And watch the spin show go into overdrive
 
I understand if Celtic lose this round they go into the final of the Copa America where they play Colombia.

If we win our tie we get relegated from the SPL and end up in the T20 in India where we have to play Kerala Blasters for the Americas Cup. Hardly seems fair.

Ps. If you don’t have a clue, don’t make shit up. RangerAl and others have explained how it works numerous times.
 
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Empire said:
It’s not really that big an advantage as the first leg is only 4 days later.
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It's two weeks more preparation which is considerable considering their manager hasn't even met their players yet and the games 4.5 weeks away.

Will the Danes also have a full house at theirs? Seemed that way on Saturday.
 
cooperman said:
had a wee look at the Midtjylland forum and came across this-


Rangers play much better internationally than Celtic because Rangers play compact counter-football. Out of the 7 goals they scored against us, 5 were on counter, 1 goal in open play and 1 on a set piece.

Celtic play far more offensively and "naively" as they do in the Scottish league. We can more easily have a more waiting role.
WE have far better chances against Celtic than we had against Rangers. Far better.
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Yep, as I said on the posteglue thread

While it may look like we play offensive in Europe we really don't , we only play offensive when the other team lets us. Look at games like Bayer, Leverkusen, Porto, Braga first half, benfica, you can see it clearer. We have periods, some quite long of dominance where we are on the attack but we always have two eyes on defending and counter possession. We are only in attacking mindset when they give us an option and we can effectively do it on auto drive / going in blind.

It's great tactics by Gerrard really and makes us really hard to play against because we don't set out with a specific tactic. We set out with the plan to execute all 3 (defend, counter, attack) when given the option and probably the most important thing - we do it with pure fluidity and can interchange between all 3 instantly. . Posteglue going into these games with an attacking mindset that he loves is going to get him tore apart
 
New manager, new captain, lots of new players to bed in or select players not good enough to start in last seasons team. It is looking like mission impossible for them and no-one will laugh louder than me if they go out
 
rangeral said:

UEFA Documents

documents.uefa.com documents.uefa.com

D.4.1 Points awarded in the UEFA Champions League​

  1. Qualifying phase and play-offs
    • Clubs that are eliminated in the UEFA Champions League qualifying phase or play-offs are awarded points in the UEFA Europa League or UEFA Europa Conference League (see Annex D.4.2 and Annex D.4.3).
  2. Group stage onwards
    • 2 points awarded for a win;
    • 1 point awarded for a draw;
    • 0 points awarded for a defeat.

D.4.2 Points awarded in the UEFA Europa League​

  1. Qualifying phase and play-offs
    • Clubs that are eliminated in the UEFA Europa League qualifying phase or play-offs are awarded points in the UEFA Europa Conference League (see Annex D.4.3).
  2. Group stage onwards (except knockout round play-offs)
    • 2 points awarded for a win;
    • 1 point awarded for a draw;
    • 0 points awarded for a defeat.
  3. Guaranteed minimum
    Clubs are guaranteed a minimum of three points in the group stage of the UEFA Europa League even if the number of points actually obtained during this stage is lower. This guaranteed minimum is not added to points actually obtained in the group stage and is not included in the association coefficient calculation.

D.4.3 Points awarded in the UEFA Europa Conference League​

  1. Qualifying phase and play-offs
    • 1 point awarded to each club eliminated in the first qualifying round;
    • 1.5 points awarded to each club eliminated in the second qualifying round;
    • 2 points awarded to each club eliminated in the third qualifying round;
    • 2.5 points awarded to each club eliminated in the play-offs.
  2. Group stage onwards (except knockout round play-offs)
    • 2 points awarded for a win;
    • 1 point awarded for a draw;
    • 0 points awarded for a defeat.
  3. Guaranteed minimum
    Clubs are guaranteed a minimum of 2.5 points in the group stage of the UEFA Europa Conference League, even if the number of points actually obtained during this stage is lower. This guaranteed minimum is not added to points actually obtained in the group stage and is not included in the association coefficient calculation.

D.5 Bonus points​


Clubs that reach the round of 16, quarter-finals, semi-finals or final of the UEFA Champions League or UEFA Europa League, or the semi-finals or final of the UEFA Europa Conference League are awarded an extra point for each such round.
In addition:
  1. four points are awarded for participation in the group stage of the UEFA Champions League and four points for qualifying for the round of 16;
  2. four points are awarded to the group winners of the UEFA Europa League and two points to the group runners-up;
  3. two points are awarded to the group winners of the UEFA Europa Conference League and one point to the group runners-up.
These bonus points are also included in the association coefficient calculation.
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Is this new? Don't remember us getting any bonus points last 2 seasons!
No 2 in the bonus section I'm talking about.
 
Burgh Loyal said:
Is this new? Don't remember us getting any bonus points last 2 seasons!
No 2 in the bonus section I'm talking about.
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Yes, new. Changed because of the introduction of the third tournament. Makes EL points even easier now compared to CL imo.
 
hunter1rfc said:
Aberdeen could be out against that lot
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Aberdeen struggle to create and score, unless they sign a bunch of new players in the next few weeks theyll make hard work of it against anyone. As funny as it would be for them to go out, for the sake of Scotland's standings I hope they somehow manage to get past Hacken.

Hibs have a very favourable draw and should go through without any probs.
 
Just watching Denmark and I can see they have a full stadium, I presume that means the team they are playing will have a full stadium too. The SNP is only allowing 20 percent currently....
 
Boro_gers07 said:
Just watching Denmark and I can see they have a full stadium, I presume that means the team they are playing will have a full stadium too. The SNP is only allowing 20 percent currently....
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UEFA asked for minimum 25% in each of the host cities depending the situation in each country

Some have allowed more Wembley is around 20k a game currently rising to 40k-45k for the later stages

As for Belgium it will be down to the Belgium government to decide on if fans inside the stadium
 
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