This about sums up the situation.As someone who has a foot in both camps I get that on many issues the fan base would like more aggressive reactions over some issues (Kilmarnock for example). I get that and feed that back. On this issue the club couldn’t take a defensive stance.
But on this one the club couldn’t have been more clear and my immediate concern is over Thursday. The board can’t fight their way out of this. they can’t argue away a stadium closure if the worst happens on Thursday. That is why I am focused on this point and I believe we all should be over the next few days.
Fully agree - I bet you dinosaurs never ever thought they would become extinct.Why are we still debating this, everyone with a bit of common sense knows what add on or songs should not be sung, the UB has been a great influence on the atmosphere at Ibrox, but the Club has given clear warning that the 'bad' songs will not be tolerated.
If the support as a whole, not just the UB do not conform to the Clubs wishes then the ultimate power is with the Club. I have no doubt ST would be withdrawn.
When push comes to shove, practically every fan will back the Board.
So every fan no matter where they sit should realise that there is no debate about this, play the rules or leave ( I hope you all decide to play the rules and stay)
We have, in my opinion, the best fans in the world. Let's prove it
What's distorted about it?UEFA decided years ago with the help of politicians and journalists from Scotland that fenian was a derogatory term for all Catholics.Wrongly imo shamefully so but that's what they see it as.Fans sang the super Rangers song and a brief BB. Songs that as far as UEFA are concerned have derogatory lines about Catholics.That's the facts.Without the distorted information from FARE, where do we fail article 14?
It's in the regulationsAn automatic ban?
I genuinely can't see Thursday being naughty song free, was over for Progres and the amount of drunk morons singing was a lot.
And I was nowhere near the UB.
Yet we have many posters on here claiming we all know which songs shouldnt be sung. That's not the case. FARE can claim racism and sectarianism for many songs that fans quite innocently believe are fine. I expect the Sash and Derry's Walls to land is in hot water sooner or later.We were reported by FARE for singing Build My Gallows in Eindhoven.
Completely aware of that.A free pass? We are closing off 3000 sests on Thursday night!
It absolutely terrifies me that people cannot see the gravity of this and think the club going against FARE is an option here. UEFA do not care. Calls for parity right now are a scream into the void. If people cannot grasp this everything we have worked to rebuild over the last 8 years could be destroyed.
So they are not liable for 40,000 singing the Billy boys.Because they are primarily liable for the Billy Boys in the European game.
A rudderless group of young supporters who have grand designs on themselves.
40,000 weren't singing it at that game.So they are not liable for 40,000 singing the Billy boys.
Or are these young guys with grand designes controlling fully grown men and women?
Can we make our mind up ?
And we’ve took away the tickets from the guys who do more to promote old Rangers songs than anyone else and realise the position were in now.That is correct. If we sing the songs on Thursday the next stage is a stadium closure.
The club took the tickets off the section who committed the crime. Some may think it’s unfair that all in the area were punished for the actions of a few but surely we can agree it’s appropriate that the section the charge came from should bear the brunt of the punishment. If not then there is zero accountability for our actions.And we’ve took away the tickets from the guys who do more to promote old Rangers songs than anyone else and realise the position were in now.
And ibrox will now be full off pissed up Euro day trippers
Folk like you seem to be the biggest danger to the club, at least the UB can collectively be dealt with.The UB aren't the biggest danger to the club.Some of the absolute hysterical rubbish on here in the last 48 hours has been something else.The UB joined in or started depending on what you believe and certainly weren't alone ,if they started it they won't do it again I'm 100% sure of that.All the bed wetters that want nothing other than football songs even if the traditional songs aren't offensive want the group that's brought more actual new songs about Rangers to the songbook than any other group banned.It's fucking ridiculous some of the crap being spouted.