Updates to RTV

Commentator

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I say again, why trumpet that the day your sub is collected will stay the same and not that the cost is (also) the same?
I, too, have had no email about this from RTV.
Anyway, it's all conjecture.
 

Twosignals

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Just got an email from them there. Updates coming soon "with a new look and a new video partner"

Also looking like IOS and Android apps coming this month :)
Hopefully there is an update to the customer services/technical department at the same time
Totally agree

This post has been on so many times before, when ? will it happen, been waiting for ages to buy in, still don’t know when?
 

Skyy Bluenose

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Supposedly changing the log-ins for all of the NARSA clubs for Friday. I'm not sure why you'd begin this change on a game day. Change it in midweek, when clubs can still try out the new log-in, without the game being at risk.

I'll have an alternate option available just in case.
 

Kenny1b

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Supposedly changing the log-ins for all of the NARSA clubs for Friday. I'm not sure why you'd begin this change on a game day. Change it in midweek, when clubs can still try out the new log-in, without the game being at risk.

I'll have an alternate option available just in case.
Might be improving security, making it harder for iptv to steal it.
 

Valley Bluenose

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I say again, why trumpet that the day your sub is collected will stay the same and not that the cost is (also) the same?
I, too, have had no email about this from RTV.
Anyway, it's all conjecture.
Aye, it IS all conjecture. ;) I will turn your point on it’s head, if there was to be an increase in subs they would surely have said ‘in conjunction with the changes there will be a revised pricing structure’. So I prefer to be ‘relieved‘ that there will be NO increase rather that worry there might be.:)

Ya auld pessimist (and there’s not many I can say that to!).
 

Commentator

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Aye, it IS all conjecture. ;) I will turn your point on it’s head, if there was to be an increase in subs they would surely have said ‘in conjunction with the changes there will be a revised pricing structure’. So I prefer to be ‘relieved‘ that there will be NO increase rather that worry there might be.:)

Ya auld pessimist (and there’s not many I can say that to!).
I'm not worrying about an increase, I'm happy being a miserable auld bugger.
 

Valley Bluenose

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I'm not worrying about an increase, I'm happy being a miserable auld bugger.
Well, this miserable auld bugger here decided he would try and help fellow Bears out by trying to find out how to check if you are on the mailing list. The ‘obvious’ way to do so was to click on the link at the bottom of today’s RangersTV email which states ‘click here to change mailing list preferences OR unsubscribe’. I clicked expecting to find out how to change preferences and immediately got the ‘you’ve unsubscribed and will receive no more emails’ message. Doh!

So I’m going to miss out on the next email as well.:)
 

Commentator

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Well, this miserable auld bugger here decided he would try and help fellow Bears out by trying to find out how to check if you are on the mailing list. The ‘obvious’ way to do so was to click on the link at the bottom of today’s RangersTV email which states ‘click here to change mailing list preferences OR unsubscribe’. I clicked expecting to find out how to change preferences and immediately got the ‘you’ve unsubscribed and will receive no more emails’ message. Doh!

So I’m going to miss out on the next email as well.:)
See, in future just expect that you're being shafted and life won't let you down.
Life is just a jobby sandwich and everyday is another bite.
 

Broxi the Bear

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My only concern with all of this is my understanding that with iOS or Android apps it is much easier to enforce blackouts using devices inbuilt location services . I hope we are not about to shoot ourselves in the foot commercially.
 

Valley Bluenose

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Can anyone tell me what you actually get for £5 a month? Are all the games live in the UK or do you need one of those VPN things?
It’s all on the RangersTV ‘Subscriptions’ page mate.


You need the Unlimited package (£17.25 per month) plus a VPN (which lets you pretend you are overseas) to get live matches. There are free ways to get a VPN but they can be unreliable and risky in terms of security. Plenty use them though. A paid for VPN - if you take out a two or three year subscription - will cost around £3 per month (all paid upfront).
 

Sir Sasa Papac

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I'm not sure how exactly to go about getting a VPN or how to use it. Any help would be appeciated
A vpn is sending your data through another computer to pretend you’re somewhere else. You get free ones but they can be slow and a potential risk to security.

You could get ExpressVPN subscription for ease. Costs about a fiver a month but it’s safe and secure and very easy to use.

You download the ExpressVPN app on phone, tablet or computer, open it and choose a location, then go to the website to watch the game. Works for USA Netflix too which has much more content. Simple
 

Cambuslang Bear

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A vpn is sending your data through another computer to pretend you’re somewhere else. You get free ones but they can be slow and a potential risk to security.

You could get ExpressVPN subscription for ease. Costs about a fiver a month but it’s safe and secure and very easy to use.

You download the ExpressVPN app on phone, tablet or computer, open it and choose a location, then go to the website to watch the game. Works for USA Netflix too which has much more content. Simple
Thanks mate
 

Cambuslang Bear

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A vpn is sending your data through another computer to pretend you’re somewhere else. You get free ones but they can be slow and a potential risk to security.

You could get ExpressVPN subscription for ease. Costs about a fiver a month but it’s safe and secure and very easy to use.

You download the ExpressVPN app on phone, tablet or computer, open it and choose a location, then go to the website to watch the game. Works for USA Netflix too which has much more content. Simple
Does the VPN affect your broadband speed?
 

Cambuslang Bear

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It’s all on the RangersTV ‘Subscriptions’ page mate.


You need the Unlimited package (£17.25 per month) plus a VPN (which lets you pretend you are overseas) to get live matches. There are free ways to get a VPN but they can be unreliable and risky in terms of security. Plenty use them though. A paid for VPN - if you take out a two or three year subscription - will cost around £3 per month (all paid upfront).
Cheers mate
 

Sir Sasa Papac

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Does the VPN affect your broadband speed?
You’re adding in a stop on the journey between you and the stream so aye it will be slower. That’s a big problem on most of the free VPN’s out there because they are overloaded.

If you pay for a vpn and have a decent connection you’ll not notice it. If anything is going wrong it’s probably due to rangers tv being shit
 

Valley Bluenose

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Does the VPN affect your broadband speed?
You only need to have the VPN on whilst streaming the match. Generally speaking, the better the quality of your VPN the less impact it will have on your speeds and, hence, the quality of your stream. You will see plenty on here moaning about their stream buffering. I’m of the view this is generally down to poor quality VPNs. Others disagree.
 

Valley Bluenose

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Dont go paying for a vpn subscription until the dust settles. Guess we'll know in the next week if they are switching on geo location.
Why would they? Surely the only way RangersTV will implement geo-blocking will be if they are ‘forced’ to by the authorities? They won’t voluntarily seek to lose the Club significant sums of money.
 
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GranvillusClutterbuckus

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Why would they? Surely the only way RangersTV will implement geo-blocking will be if they are ‘forced’ to by the authorities? They won’t voluntarily seek to lose the Club significant sums of money.
Challenge is that RTV outsource for content conversion, uploading to CDNs, and its provision via streaming.

However, the content provider are bound by the same regulations and will be seen as an illegal stream provider if they do not have some level of geo-blocking of UK IP addresses, leaving them open to legal action.

Ultimately, the tool the service provider are using for geo-blocking will be the deciding factor to see if it also picks out well known VPN ip ranges, something RTV will have no control over.
 
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Valley Bluenose

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Challenge is that RTV outsource for content conversion, uploading to CDNs, and its provision via streaming.

However, the content provider are bound by the same regulations and will be seen as an illegal stream provider if they do not have some level of geo-blocking of UK IP addresses, leaving them open to legal action.

Ultimately, the tool the service provider are using for geo-blocking will be the deciding factor to see if it also picks out well known VPN ip ranges, something RTV will have no control over.
You are absolutely correct, which is why I said RangersTV will do nothing to hamper their cash-cow. You won’t even get them to acknowledge that folks watch it in the UK by using a VPN.

My response was to a poster who appeared to be suggesting that they would seek to implement a block on the use of VPNs. The likes of Netflix try to do this, with fairly limited success in all honesty, but there’s no way that RangersTV will, knowingly, do likewise. Even if the service-provider (rather than RangersTV) does so, as you suggest is a possibility, the better VPN providers will generally provide enough of a choice of servers that you will always be able to find one that isn’t blocked.

You would hope that RangersTV discussions with their providers would include some ‘off the record’ mention of this and what the implications could be.
 

Valley Bluenose

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nope it will carry on as normal is the way i read it. So they might be changing providers but will still use the details you provided.

You will be able to switch method of payment now though to paypal etc.
Exactly how I see it. Your debit instruction will be transferred away from WorldPay to the new ‘collector’ and will continue as before. The website content provider will also change and there will be scope to amend card details via the RangersTV website - hence the change of password and login to ensure security of this info.

If you let friends and family use your RangersTV account to watch the game it might be worth considering if you should continue to do so because, after the change, they could well have access to your card details IF you give them your new login details. An important consideration I would have thought.
 

williewoodburn

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Challenge is that RTV outsource for content conversion, uploading to CDNs, and its provision via streaming.

However, the content provider are bound by the same regulations and will be seen as an illegal stream provider if they do not have some level of geo-blocking of UK IP addresses, leaving them open to legal action.

Ultimately, the tool the service provider are using for geo-blocking will be the deciding factor to see if it also picks out well known VPN ip ranges, something RTV will have no control over.
That could well have a knock on effect on next years subscription take up. Personally I'd pay twice the current annual sub to ensure a proper stream. Though my downloads speeds aren't great I can watch the 'on demand' stuff with no probs whatsoever, its the live games via Nord or TB that have me pulling my feckin hair out. No issues last season.
 

Laudrup1

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I say again, why trumpet that the day your sub is collected will stay the same and not that the cost is (also) the same?
I, too, have had no email about this from RTV.
Anyway, it's all conjecture.
I think you're maybe reading too much in to it.

Possibly, the comment is just to make people aware that the service is changing and due to that they'll have to cancel current subs and port them to the new system.

I'm pretty certain if there was any uplift costs due to the changes, they'd have had to have been mentioned.

Might be the case as they continue the upgrades there are different tiers added to subscription levels.
 

Crouchy

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See for the full package, all games, is the annual fee pro-rated over the season?

If I sign up next week, I won’t pay $300, will I?
 

Laudrup1

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See for the full package, all games, is the annual fee pro-rated over the season?

If I sign up next week, I won’t pay $300, will I?
I don't think it finished at seasons end. You take out a year subscription. If you did it now, you will pay the $300 but it'll run for you until this time next year.

I can see how that is causing issues with them creating a new site. It means that everyone's sub ends at different points and they can't have a clean break.

It's for that reason that I don't think it's possible for them to increase prices right now like @Commentator was highlighting
 
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