Grigo Yossarian
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Pretty sure it was New Jersey KYB.
Victims lawyer has ‘evidence’ Celtic knew about abuse before the 90’s(Record)
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Pretty sure it was New Jersey KYB.
Quijibo
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Totally agree, I know it’s a PR message for the masses however they will be entirely aware that unless they can show a cease and desist for the use of badge and name then there’s clearly a supporting of the boys club by the club itself. You don’t get to us either companies intellectual property unless it’s by agreement.
Ian-RFC
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Blu Stu @Stoortmcd
Good morning people, your daily Torbett reminder here!
BREAKING NEWS!
Yesterday, Humza Yousaf “commented” on the James Torbett/CFC peado scandal.
On twitter, he told Michelle Gray, sister of one of Torbett’s victims, that he was “sorry to hear about it.”
Yes.
No joke.
https://twitter.com/Stoortmcd/status/1064431622957789184
Good morning people, your daily Torbett reminder here!
BREAKING NEWS!
Yesterday, Humza Yousaf “commented” on the James Torbett/CFC peado scandal.
On twitter, he told Michelle Gray, sister of one of Torbett’s victims, that he was “sorry to hear about it.”
Yes.
No joke.
https://twitter.com/Stoortmcd/status/1064431622957789184
Commentator
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Oh right, fair enough, he's only just heard about it.
The key thing here though is he's now conceding that he knows about it and can therefore be pursued for action on it.
Sing a naughty song and the snap are all over you like a rash.abuse children at Celtic and not a thing.
Beanyrfc79
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Wouldn't be surprised if this is why a bank was willing to close them back in the 90s
Ian-RFC
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Ninja. @NinjaMan54
Ninja. Retweeted Humza Yousaf
Resign.
This is 1 of 2 things, a lie or total incompetence. Either way you should resign.
Genuinely appalling and deeply concerning that this man can come away with this.
Is he honestly trying to tell us he hasn’t heard of this??
REALLY???
https://twitter.com/NinjaMan54/status/1064428859402137601
Ninja. Retweeted Humza Yousaf
Resign.
This is 1 of 2 things, a lie or total incompetence. Either way you should resign.
Genuinely appalling and deeply concerning that this man can come away with this.
Is he honestly trying to tell us he hasn’t heard of this??
REALLY???
https://twitter.com/NinjaMan54/status/1064428859402137601
Ian-RFC
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Celtic Boys Club founder Jim Torbett is to appeal his conviction for sexually abusing young players.
Torbett was jailed for six years earlier this month after a judge said he had used the football team as a "recruiting ground" to prey on boys.
Two victims had been in his under-14s football teams, while the third was abused by Torbett at the age of five.
The 71-year-old, from Kelvindale, Glasgow, was found guilty of five abuse charges between 1986 and 1994.
He had denied the charges during a trial at the High Court in Glasgow.
The judiciary office in Edinburgh has confirmed his lawyers have lodged an appeal against both conviction and sentence.
No further court date has been set.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-46259291
Torbett was jailed for six years earlier this month after a judge said he had used the football team as a "recruiting ground" to prey on boys.
Two victims had been in his under-14s football teams, while the third was abused by Torbett at the age of five.
The 71-year-old, from Kelvindale, Glasgow, was found guilty of five abuse charges between 1986 and 1994.
He had denied the charges during a trial at the High Court in Glasgow.
The judiciary office in Edinburgh has confirmed his lawyers have lodged an appeal against both conviction and sentence.
No further court date has been set.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-46259291
The inhumanity of this monster knows no bounds.
The lack of empathy from an entire football support is simply staggering. But no surprise.
yorkie blue
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We should not stop having the world look into Celtics sordid past. If anything this should fuel the right for proper justice.
He the monster that he is should be hung from the gallows along with the hierarchy that protected him or possibly where involved with him.
He the monster that he is should be hung from the gallows along with the hierarchy that protected him or possibly where involved with him.
Hopefully everything, whatever that may be, will come out when the rest of the victims are heard.
The whole think is mind boggling and shows what a fekd up place the world can be.
He has a very salient point. Did the boys club manage to fork out 250K a year for trophies or did Celtic foot that bill??????????
RobbieRFC
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The NSPCC once stated that 1 in 20 children have been abused.
https://www.nspcc.org.uk/preventing...d-sexual-abuse/sexual-abuse-facts-statistics/
Based on the previous predilection of their church leaders an awful lot of people are keeping quiet at a time when they should be speaking up.
thenodster
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What is his grounds for appeal? Nonce bastard.
borderbluenose
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Hopefully he will get 16 years after the appeal
Bazoo
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I hope the lawyer knows that
www.bheasts.com
And
www.paedos.com
Are currently available for registration and uses them to find more victims.
If they suddenly disappear then whoever registered them monitors this forum, unless it is a bear that snaps them up and lets the world know the truth and nothing but the truth about a certain club disguised as a football club.
www.bheasts.com
And
www.paedos.com
Are currently available for registration and uses them to find more victims.
If they suddenly disappear then whoever registered them monitors this forum, unless it is a bear that snaps them up and lets the world know the truth and nothing but the truth about a certain club disguised as a football club.
This is very interesting and as you say could go a long way to establish their links with CBC.
Richard The Lionheart
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This video puts the fear of death into Celtic.
He's taking this all the way!
He's taking this all the way!
Superrangers
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I hope he destroys them.
You think it would be appropriate for anyone, never mind a solicitor, to register those crass domain names in an attempt to convince victims to come forward?
Utterly mental...
Perhaps some brave journalist will be interested in your back story DD, for the huge Pulitzer Winner expose he or she is preparing.
You should sound them out with the details.
You should email that exact post to Thomson's solicitors and also The Prosecution in the Torbett case.
Excellent call CD Bear.
Bazoo
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Dear low post member, What I think is appropriate is of no concern of yours. But let us just run with this for a while. The world needs to know the depraved sexual behaviour of people associated with Celtc and the cover up the went on afterwards.
Any route to them knowing this should not be off limits.
Any route for victims to get redress should not be off limits.
Are “Bheasts” or “Paedos” used widely on this forum to describe those involved in the abuse at Celtc? We both know the answer is definitely yes.
Any method of highlighting the story or getting victims to come forward is valid in my book.
Solicitors are just members of the public doing their job which in this case is representing victims.
Utterly mental and bonkers in the same extreme.
No offence mate, but unless you intend to register those domains yourself, then why on earth even make such a suggestion for others to do.
Bonkers
Willie Mac
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Yes those terms are used, are they crass? Yes absolutely they are. Would the use of these domain names encourage victims to come forward? Highly unlikely.
Any method of getting victims to come forward must be handled with sensitivity and empathy. This isn't cheap point scoring.
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Ali Baba
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And so he should.He has a morale and ethical obligation to seek redress from that mob.They have yet again tried to walk away from it.”Nothing to do with ce*tic”my arsehole.
Prison for those concerned financial compensation for the poor lads who were preyed upon and financial and sporting recourse.That mob took the glory (they told us all about it)Time to pay the piper.League titles cups etc should all be stripped and any prize money accrued from winning during the( abuse years )should be split up between the victims and their families.
They are a disgusting disgraceful entity that should be closed and their hell hole should be bulldozed to the ground.The fact the scottish government pretend to not know and continue to ignore a victims sister tells you all you need to know about the snp.
"Were you a victim of child sexual abuse at Celtic Boys Club? Then go to www.bheasts.com!"
Get a grip, show some respect to the victims.
As others have said, if you think it's such a great idea, you buy the fucking domain..
Hateleysheid
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Look at how this accusation of abuse was dealt with by the management of Celtic at the time. A very familiar way of covering up the wrongdoing.
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/mum-tells-celtic-grope-hell-8853394l
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/mum-tells-celtic-grope-hell-8853394l
HMS.Temple.Garden
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the SNIP are too concerned about who stole an Irish flag that sex abuse against the children of Scotland.
Talktalk
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Ffs mate why would you ever think those domains would ever be used by poor guys who suffered and still suffering decades later because of those lowlife cants.
This solicitor has previous dealings with celtc in another tragic case. What was the outcome here? Out of court settlement perhaps?
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....action-from-tragic-fan-s-family-1-8241488/amp
It's really sad that the only forum in the land talking about this horrific catalogue of crimes is this one. As posted on the other thread.... What in fuçks name is wrong with this country?
Not one football fans forum is up in arms against this, aside from FF. Not one politician has expressed horror at the scandalously callous behaviour of that club. Not one paper will print the truth or report the facts. Last night this video had a total of 14 views:
12 hours later it's had 16 views.
That to me is the real horror.
The rest of the world should be gagging from the putrid stench being emitted from this despicable country.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....action-from-tragic-fan-s-family-1-8241488/amp
It's really sad that the only forum in the land talking about this horrific catalogue of crimes is this one. As posted on the other thread.... What in fuçks name is wrong with this country?
Not one football fans forum is up in arms against this, aside from FF. Not one politician has expressed horror at the scandalously callous behaviour of that club. Not one paper will print the truth or report the facts. Last night this video had a total of 14 views:
12 hours later it's had 16 views.
That to me is the real horror.
The rest of the world should be gagging from the putrid stench being emitted from this despicable country.
Joburg True Blues
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Celtic Fc = Vicarious liability refers to a situation where someone is held responsible for the actions or omissions of another person. In a workplace context, an employer can be liable for the acts or omissions of its employees, provided it can be shown that they took place in the course of their employment.
You can just imagine how the top table were feeling at the AGM just incase that "killer question" was going to be asked:
Must be hell for Michelle knowing that her brother would never have been abused had celtc not brought the bheast back.
Shame for the family they now make matters worse by claiming to be a separate entity.
Not sure if it's been posted on this thread. From the old board.
1. Jim Torbett, one of the 6 known paedophiles or sex offenders to have operated from the club, approached legendary Celtic manager and infamous paedophile harbourer, Jock Stein, for permission to set up a ‘nursery’ using the clubs name.
2. During Torbett’s first trial the court was told how Jock Stein kicked Torbett out of the club. In fact Celtic fans proudly tell you this, thinking it meant he didn’t need to notify the police! How could Stein kick Torbett out of a completely separate entity?
3. Jock Stein also brought Frank Cairney to the club to get rid of the smears and innuendo surrounding it while Torbett was there. Not only did Stein let a paedophile roam undetected for decades by failing to notify the authorities, but he also managed to replace him with another! A club like no other indeed! But again, can the PR guy with the big brush tell us how Stein was able to make these decisions on behalf of a totally separate entity?
4. When a boy was allegedly abused by ‘Big Frank’ on a trip to the US his family confronted Liam Brady & club scout John Kelman about the ordeal. Brady insisted that Cairney was removed from his position. Again, how can Brady insist on the removal of a member of a completely separate entity?
5. The family of the same victim were made to sign a statement saying they would not notify the police. The agreement was made with Liam Brady (then manager of Celtic Football Club), Celtic FC lawyers, and the current Celtic board which included Kevin Kelly and Jack McGinn. AGAIN, how could this agreement be made on behalf of a totally separate entity?
6. When Hugh Birt, former Celtic Boys Club Chairman, notified the Celtic board of his concerns over Torbett & Cairney, he was forced to resign, and lost his seat in the directors box at Celtic Park. Getting boring now, but how can he be forced to resign from an organisation completely separate from Celtic Football Club?
7. When Birt told the board his concerns, they were referred to club manager Davie Hay. Why was the club manager involved in an incident concerning a separate entity?
8. Celtic Boys Club used Celtics training ground, Barrowfield, for matches and training. Did they pay rent? Is it normal for Celtic to allow completely separate entities to use their facilities on a regular basis?
9. When ‘Big Frank’ was arrested, the then Celtic manager and lifelong friend of the alleged paedophile rushed to his defence saying ‘He has the whole of my backing, and that of Celtic Football Club to a man’. Why would the manager of Celtic Football Club offer the club’s support to a man accused of child abuse involving a separate entity? Did they come out and offer support of the paedophile linked to Penn State? Or the BBC?
10. Kevin Kelly, former Celtic Chairman, was Honorary Vice Chairman of Celtic Boys Club.
11. Kelly, and fellow Celtic director Jack McGinn were director/employee of Torbett’s company, The Trophy Centre.
12. Torbett was a regular in the director box at Celtic Park, and fellow paedophile Frank Cairney was also a regular, as well as ‘having the ear’ of the club management.
13. Fergus McCann instructed Celtic lawyers to take a statement from John McCluskey, one of Torbett’s victims. Why would club lawyers be involved in an incident affecting a separate entity?
14. Celtic FC made payments of £1m to Trophy Centre while its owner was in prison...he was in charge of a separate entity. Why the payments?
Shame for the family they now make matters worse by claiming to be a separate entity.
Not sure if it's been posted on this thread. From the old board.
1. Jim Torbett, one of the 6 known paedophiles or sex offenders to have operated from the club, approached legendary Celtic manager and infamous paedophile harbourer, Jock Stein, for permission to set up a ‘nursery’ using the clubs name.
2. During Torbett’s first trial the court was told how Jock Stein kicked Torbett out of the club. In fact Celtic fans proudly tell you this, thinking it meant he didn’t need to notify the police! How could Stein kick Torbett out of a completely separate entity?
3. Jock Stein also brought Frank Cairney to the club to get rid of the smears and innuendo surrounding it while Torbett was there. Not only did Stein let a paedophile roam undetected for decades by failing to notify the authorities, but he also managed to replace him with another! A club like no other indeed! But again, can the PR guy with the big brush tell us how Stein was able to make these decisions on behalf of a totally separate entity?
4. When a boy was allegedly abused by ‘Big Frank’ on a trip to the US his family confronted Liam Brady & club scout John Kelman about the ordeal. Brady insisted that Cairney was removed from his position. Again, how can Brady insist on the removal of a member of a completely separate entity?
5. The family of the same victim were made to sign a statement saying they would not notify the police. The agreement was made with Liam Brady (then manager of Celtic Football Club), Celtic FC lawyers, and the current Celtic board which included Kevin Kelly and Jack McGinn. AGAIN, how could this agreement be made on behalf of a totally separate entity?
6. When Hugh Birt, former Celtic Boys Club Chairman, notified the Celtic board of his concerns over Torbett & Cairney, he was forced to resign, and lost his seat in the directors box at Celtic Park. Getting boring now, but how can he be forced to resign from an organisation completely separate from Celtic Football Club?
7. When Birt told the board his concerns, they were referred to club manager Davie Hay. Why was the club manager involved in an incident concerning a separate entity?
8. Celtic Boys Club used Celtics training ground, Barrowfield, for matches and training. Did they pay rent? Is it normal for Celtic to allow completely separate entities to use their facilities on a regular basis?
9. When ‘Big Frank’ was arrested, the then Celtic manager and lifelong friend of the alleged paedophile rushed to his defence saying ‘He has the whole of my backing, and that of Celtic Football Club to a man’. Why would the manager of Celtic Football Club offer the club’s support to a man accused of child abuse involving a separate entity? Did they come out and offer support of the paedophile linked to Penn State? Or the BBC?
10. Kevin Kelly, former Celtic Chairman, was Honorary Vice Chairman of Celtic Boys Club.
11. Kelly, and fellow Celtic director Jack McGinn were director/employee of Torbett’s company, The Trophy Centre.
12. Torbett was a regular in the director box at Celtic Park, and fellow paedophile Frank Cairney was also a regular, as well as ‘having the ear’ of the club management.
13. Fergus McCann instructed Celtic lawyers to take a statement from John McCluskey, one of Torbett’s victims. Why would club lawyers be involved in an incident affecting a separate entity?
14. Celtic FC made payments of £1m to Trophy Centre while its owner was in prison...he was in charge of a separate entity. Why the payments?
Arranger
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Great post mate
Ponientebear
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No way on earth was that question going to be asked, totally stage managed and anyway the mutant hordes were too interested in talking about their favourite subject.You can just imagine how the top table were feeling at the AGM just incase that "killer question" was going to be asked:
Hateleysheid
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Kevin Kelly
davydumper
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This trophy centre, are they the same people that sponsored junior football during the 80’s and if so they must have been doing a roaring trade in plastic trophies.
Grigo Yossarian
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Exactly Virgil.
On that first point, even in any ADULT business health & safety is the employers number one responsibility. Yet with CHILDREN they try & walk away from that instead of being even more vigilant ?
Disgusting.
When this is all exposed, as it will be, there is no other appropriate punishment.
