What’s your thoughts on the split

Jim Lahey said:
14 teams in top flight. Everyone plays each other once HOME and AWAY then do a top 6 and bottom 8 and again everyone plays each other twice
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That’s actually a brilliant idea. I’ve edited the part that’s confusing everyone :))
 
A farce. The team finishing 7th ending up with more points than the team in 6th says it all, and playing some teams away 3 times to only one at home or vice versa too. I don't know anybody who likes it (other than the OP obviously!).
 
The break should be in early April. When the bad weather hits, which could be any time over the winter, the Met can predict it days in advance. Cancel the whole program when the bad stuff is coming by Thursday at the latest and move that week's fixtures to the free weeks in April. Better for safety, better for fans, better for everyone. Simple. So simple and easy the SFA will never do it.
 
I like it. Makes for 6 pointers every week in the bottom 6 games and an exciting relegation battle. At the top of the table, if us and Celtic are neck and neck I think it makes for a great end to the season and the best team in that circumstance, tends to win the league.
Imagine on helicopter Sunday if Celtic were away to a team sitting in 10th place with nothing to play for...it would have been a foregone conclusion.
 
Another Dodgy Decision said:
I like it. Makes for 6 pointers every week in the bottom 6 games and an exciting relegation battle. At the top of the table, if us and Celtic are neck and neck I think it makes for a great end to the season and the best team in that circumstance, tends to win the league.
Imagine on helicopter Sunday if Celtic were away to a team sitting in 10th place with nothing to play for...it would have been a foregone conclusion.
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On Helicopter Sunday 2005 they were away to Motherwell who were languishing in 6th place with nothing to play for either.
 
Another Dodgy Decision said:
I like it. Makes for 6 pointers every week in the bottom 6 games and an exciting relegation battle. At the top of the table, if us and Celtic are neck and neck I think it makes for a great end to the season and the best team in that circumstance, tends to win the league.
Imagine on helicopter Sunday if Celtic were away to a team sitting in 10th place with nothing to play for...it would have been a foregone conclusion.
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That’s my thinking mate.
 
london_bluenose said:
On Helicopter Sunday 2005 they were away to Motherwell who were languishing in 6th place with nothing to play for either.
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Although I wasn’t confident going into the last day of the season, it was still a relatively hard place to go for them. Better than them playing against a Dundee or a Livingston from that season.
Even the 08/09 season when we slipped up against Hibs at Easter road, you knew they had similarly hard games to come so it wasn’t over. Hibs ended up drawing with them 0-0 the following Sunday and we go onto win the league. I think it separates the best from the rest and we do well 9/10 as they are bottle merchants.
 
The model quoted a few years back with 2 leagues of 12 splitting to 3 leagues of 8 I like.

I like the idea of a split, but not what we have now
 
Another Dodgy Decision said:
Although I wasn’t confident going into the last day of the season, it was still a relatively hard place to go for them. Better than them playing against a Dundee or a Livingston from that season.
Even the 08/09 season when we slipped up against Hibs at Easter road, you knew they had similarly hard games to come so it wasn’t over. Hibs ended up drawing with them 0-0 the following Sunday and we go onto win the league. I think it separates the best from the rest and we do well 9/10 as they are bottle merchants.
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I appreciate your point.

I actually have a vivid memory of that game when the scum drew at Easter Road. We (Sheffield & Districts Loyal) had been on an overnight trip to Glasgow for our game against Aberdeen the previous day. On our way back down the road we pulled into Penrith for a pint, and the second half of that game was just starting.

What followed was the longest 45 minutes of my entire life. I already knew I had a ticket for Tannadice the following weekend. What we watched in that pub was a constant procession towards the Hibs goal, but nothing went in. We were outside pacing up and down the streets of Penrith during stoppage time. :D
 
12 team league we have.Every team plays each other twice.
22 games
split top 6 bottom 6
Play each other twice
10 games
32 games each team
Top team champions
Bottom 2 relegated
easy and simple but probably to complicated for the sfa/spfl
 
BSPECIAL said:
12 team league we have.Every team plays each other twice.
22 games
split top 6 bottom 6
Play each other twice
10 games
32 games each team
Top team champions
Bottom 2 relegated
easy and simple but probably to complicated for the sfa/spfl
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Not enough games
 
There should be two divisions of 20 in Scotland .

Play each other home and away 38 games no split, 4 up 4 down , end of .

Football is best when kept simple . We’ve managed to Fck it beyond recognition .
 
Fourladshadadream said:
Bored on a Friday nightshift.

Thought I would ask before we get close to it and fixtures come out.

I prefer it as you’re playing against teams that can beat each other top 6 and bottom 6.

Since it came in we’ve had Europe-league and relegation places decided on the last day a few times.

I know some teams get a extra home game.

What’s your thoughts on it?
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Also bored on a nightshift. Makes Scottish football the laughing stock of serious leagues.
 
Axelrod said:
There should be two divisions of 20 in Scotland .

Play each other home and away 38 games no split, 4 up 4 down , end of .

Football is best when kept simple . We’ve managed to Fck it beyond recognition .
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Too sensible for the free loading hanger on clubs with no ambition other than getting a cup draw against us or the scum to keep them alive.
 
From purely a personal perspective I think it's a joke. I've said it a few times before, if I want to take in a game post split I have to wait until the last minute before it's announced so I can book flights and holidays from work. This increases the cost and is also a lot harder to get time off. I'm sure I'm not alone.
 
The only way any sort of split works is if the teams involved go into a play-off system, like they do in American sports. So the top 6 would play-off for the championship, and the bottom would play-off to stay in the division. As it currently stands, it is a heap of shite and should have been scrapped years ago.
 
The most Scottish Football thing ever. Open to manipulation, never works, causes grief every year, shoehorned into a league system so for a very short term cause (ensuring 4 x games between us and them).

Any decent league in Europe has at least 16 teams in it. Scotland is too small to manage 4 leagues with little movement. We should have 2 x 18 giving 34 games each.
 
I hate it! It lacks "sporting integrity" and was divised for financial reasons ignoring the customer's wishes.
 
london_bluenose said:
It alternates each season as to who out of Rangers or Celtic get 3 home games post split.

Basically whoever plays the first Derby of the season at home will end up with 3 away games post split. This doesn't seem to be a written rule but it is how it happens.
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Since when?

ICT or Ross County came up one year well into the inception of the split and they were landed the three away games in their first season and it had still to happen to the filth.

They didn't land three away games for easy a half dozen years, if not more.

It is a farce. No matter the league set up, no matter what country you play in, you should play your opponents an equal amount of home and away games.
 
I actually don’t mind it. If you have close run ins the fact you are guaranteed these teams play each other at the end of the season can be quite exciting.

It doesn’t work with 12 though as it leads to inequalities - however the 14 team split described above seems reasonable.

A fair few European leagues not have a split.
 
wee bud's pit boots said:
Since when?

ICT or Ross County came up one year well into the inception of the split and they were landed the three away games in their first season and it had still to happen to the filth.

They didn't land three away games for easy a half dozen years, if not more.

It is a farce. No matter the league set up, no matter what country you play in, you should play your opponents an equal amount of home and away games.
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I think you've missed what I'm saying.
I'm only pointing out that Rangers and Celtic's number of home/away games after the split alternates each season.
 
sonofbunk said:
I actually don’t mind it. If you have close run ins the fact you are guaranteed these teams play each other at the end of the season can be quite exciting.

It doesn’t work with 12 though as it leads to inequalities - however the 14 team split described above seems reasonable.

A fair few European leagues not have a split.
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Didn’t we model it on the the footballing giants of the Austrian or Hungarian league or something like that?
 
london_bluenose said:
I appreciate your point.

I actually have a vivid memory of that game when the scum drew at Easter Road. We (Sheffield & Districts Loyal) had been on an overnight trip to Glasgow for our game against Aberdeen the previous day. On our way back down the road we pulled into Penrith for a pint, and the second half of that game was just starting.

What followed was the longest 45 minutes of my entire life. I already knew I had a ticket for Tannadice the following weekend. What we watched in that pub was a constant procession towards the Hibs goal, but nothing went in. We were outside pacing up and down the streets of Penrith during stoppage time. :D
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I was the same, had a ticket for tannadice also and thankfully big rob jones had a stormer !
 
Shite in the current set-up. I don't know any fan that's ever been in favour of it.

Either drop back to 10 teams in the top league - 36 games, 2 home 2 away but probably not as entertaining.

Ideally I would like the 16 team league with 1 home 1 away but that's not as many games of course and again, if it goes to the wire we could end up going to the sheep while they're at home to Dundee or something.

14 teams is something I've warmed to more recently and the thought of the title run-in containing 2 games each against them, sheep, Hibs and Hearts does sound very appealing.
 
Needless, I totally get the idea of all the top sides scrapping it out in the final games as well as the bottom sides fighting the relegation battle but there is no need for the split as you can just about pick the top 6 before the season starts. Rangers, Celtic, Aberdeen, Hibs, Hearts and Kilmarnock/Motherwell, just arrange the fixtures so that those teams play each other in the final games, no split and no arguments over playing a side 3 times away from home.
 
Fourladshadadream said:
Stop the split and TV games will still happen.
I miss the 3pm kickoffs.
I do like a Friday night game.
Don’t like a Sunday game but I can play in a medal at the golf club.
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we know tv will happen whatever,but sky ,bt,whoever isisting 4 old firm games a season should be told stuff it,18/20 team league and if they want,bring back the glasgow cup or charity shield,for rangers and them to play for,it would still sell out?
 
I will buck the trend and say I am not bothered by it. It can throw up interesting ends to seasons for sure and means there are less meaningless games towards the back end of the season.
 
london_bluenose said:
I think you've missed what I'm saying.
I'm only pointing out that Rangers and Celtic's number of home/away games after the split alternates each season.
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I think you'll find that when we've both been in the same league, Rangers have had far more *three away games to one home* than the filth, so I didn't miss your point, I believe the facts will suggest you're wrong.
 
Northampton_Loyalist said:
I will buck the trend and say I am not bothered by it. It can throw up interesting ends to seasons for sure and means there are less meaningless games towards the back end of the season.
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Given the way the filth's media apologists caused a stushie of sorts last season when it came to pass that Rangers had three home games against some team or other, you can bet your boots we'll be going to some venue three times this season.
 
Don't hate it honestly, if there's a title fight come the split then it means the teams fighting for it all have to play the same teams. The fixtures themselves can be a farce though, not that i mind but we never even had to play at Tynecastle last year. Murrayfield and 3 home matches so for that i wouldn't care if it got scrapped
 
In theory it's good head to head for drama.

But it almost seems like it was introduced to stop the "they get the easier run in" garbage.
 
Far too many folk moan about it because its the thing to be seen doing without offering a viable alternative.
 
IMO it's yet another piece of nonsense from the dopey powers that be - that keeps our league squarely in the mickey mouse category
 
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