What can we as fans do to try and force the board to act?.

Alfie shhh! said:
Is that what we're gonna do to any manager that doesn't win the league?

I imagine any potential future manager will look at that and say yeah, fck that.
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It's the only opportunity to get the point across to him and the board in the stadium.

If the fans saw progression they would be patient there hasn't been any.

A potential new forward thinking manager won't be remotely bothered about previous chants towards a failed manager, he would hopefully back himself to be a success in a 2 horse race.
 
The DazzleGer said:
What's the protest for ?
A new manager?
A new board?
A new Chairman ?
A new CEO ?
The latter two have happened
The first cant be financed due to previous overspending to compete with celtc
The second requires someone wanting to buy or sell shares .
At this minute as I write protest will achieve the square route of FA .
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So you can’t put clement on gardening leave but we found the money last January to pay silva 40k per week ?? Of course we can doing nothing isn’t an option
 
Meiklejohn said:
To cut to the chase, they only understand when they become the target
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This is the crux of the problem, they only seem to care when it causes any issues to their personal business interests, as proved with the cinch issue.

They do not give a monkeys about the club, its a vanity project for them.

They will only take any notice if there is problems for their business, blockade the park business would open eyes, any negativity to their own business interests is the way forward.

Banners will be ignored
Mass walk outs make a good spectacle but they already have the dough in the bank to waste
I wouldnt support action on the players
Blockading the playes in the stadium is poor taste
Constant song about Sack board and manager will be heard but again I doubt they care

The board need to be the ones that are targetted for change.

For the benifit of doubt I am in no way saying there should be anything physical regarding the board, only saying the only way they act is if they are on the receiving end of the negativity
 
Blue Goose said:
The players are part of the problem along with the manager. The board has given him money. Not a lot, but money nonetheless. The board don't scout players. The players are underachieving and look lost. There's zero progression only regression. The board or CEO need to put him and us out of our misery. This though will eat into our budget. Which the board that everyone wants out, will have to pay. Incidentally on this board being removed, whose buying? Nobody is buying with Clement talking about 2012 all the time.
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The board appoint a yts to identify and recruit the players though
 
Something needs done, the problem is we don’t stand together. Total boycott on Sunday would be the first thing I’d be doing , but I know lads who say no one will dictate to them what games they can go to etc
 
NeilFifeLoyal said:
I'm open to ideas something needs to give here as we are an absolute shambles. Something I've thought about recently is a protest in terms of a fan walk out during a game. I know we need to keep backing the players however if the board don't act something really needs to be done. I'm at a loss to where we go from here it's sickening.
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I’d wait to see what Stewart Thornton and Gilligan are going to do. They’re the new kids on the block. Make life difficult for them and the law of unintended consequences could kick in.

Our current playing problems have spanned 3 managers. The current kids on the block span 3 weeks.
 
Kempo01 said:
It's the only opportunity to get the point across to him and the board in the stadium.

If the fans saw progression they would be patient there hasn't been any.

A potential new forward thinking manager won't be remotely bothered about previous chants towards a failed manager, he would hopefully back himself to be a success in a 2 horse race.
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Yeah just like Beale, Gio and Clement. Good luck with that. We assume that good managers want to join us. Why? If the board’s as bad as some claim we’ll get more of the same. Seems to me that we need the new guys to be successful. Make life difficult for them who knows what happens.
 
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NeilFifeLoyal said:
I'm open to ideas something needs to give here as we are an absolute shambles. Something I've thought about recently is a protest in terms of a fan walk out during a game. I know we need to keep backing the players however if the board don't act something really needs to be done. I'm at a loss to where we go from here it's sickening.
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tennis balls and 90 minutes of NPOR
 
Williem2 said:
This is the crux of the problem, they only seem to care when it causes any issues to their personal business interests, as proved with the cinch issue.

They do not give a monkeys about the club, its a vanity project for them.

They will only take any notice if there is problems for their business, blockade the park business would open eyes, any negativity to their own business interests is the way forward.

Banners will be ignored
Mass walk outs make a good spectacle but they already have the dough in the bank to waste
I wouldnt support action on the players
Blockading the playes in the stadium is poor taste
Constant song about Sack board and manager will be heard but again I doubt they care

The board need to be the ones that are targetted for change.

For the benifit of doubt I am in no way saying there should be anything physical regarding the board, only saying the only way they act is if they are on the receiving end of the negativity
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Jeez the board’s in the middle of being changed or didn’t you notice?
 
Alfie shhh! said:
Is that what we're gonna do to any manager that doesn't win the league?

I imagine any potential future manager will look at that and say yeah, fck that.
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It's about a bit more than not winning the league, him being an absolute shambles of a manger is my main reason!
 
Kempo01 said:
A potential new forward thinking manager won't be remotely bothered about previous chants towards a failed manager, he would hopefully back himself to be a success in a 2 horse race.
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I hear you but I'm pretty sure our last 4 managers thought the same and struggled, and every one of them was told get to fck at some point.

Doesn't help that far too many signings have been expensive mince though.
 
LiborSionko14 said:
The club already have your money from ticket sales they’re not giving a fuçk if you leave 20 minutes in.
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Also, the problem with a walk out is that the board will consider anyone who stays in the stadium someone who doesn't want change. If twenty thousand did it, it would be damming though. So visible that even our board couldn't deny it.
 
Now and forever said:
So whats stopping them changing the manager?
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Sorting out the board first. If they’re as bad as some suggest, and we don’t change, why would anyone better than Beale, Gio and Clement want to join us…….unless it’s the attraction of more compo?

Gilligan has made progress in improving the board but we’re still not quite there. Improving the board will help improve everything else.
 
HillsBill said:
Jeez the board’s in the middle of being changed or didn’t you notice?
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The board being the ownership, the real decision makers, the ones that have dragged the club to what it is now, the ones that gave an open cheque book to Beale.

These guys are there, these guys are the ones that make the decisions. They are not fit for purpose

We have a new CEO and Chairman who hopefully have power to change and not just a barrier in place to save the blushes of the Parks
 
Kempo01 said:
He has alot of influence behind the scenes. Who is the decision makers then? They have set us back years, them and the fraud in the dugout need gone asap.
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The current board of the main company. That's who make the decisions. Not the 2nd highest shareholders who resigned as chairman and his seat at the table. So yes they have set us back years but how many years would it be if they don't bail us out. People keep saying their mistakes is why we need more money. Is it. I'd say it's because we keep giving managers about £15m to spend when we actually don't have that money.
 
Williem2 said:
The board being the ownership, the real decision makers, the ones that have dragged the club to what it is now, the ones that gave an open cheque book to Beale.

These guys are there, these guys are the ones that make the decisions. They are not fit for purpose

We have a new CEO and Chairman who hopefully have power to change and not just a barrier in place to save the blushes of the Parks
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3 members of the current board own hee haw shares. Gilligan said he will move more towards Independent directors, and is doing so with Stewart and Thornton, support him in the changes he is making.

Push out Stewart, Thornton and Gilligan and the investors will take over again. Why? Because they have the votes!
 
Fir Park a few years ago there was banners with Robertson and Wilson's face on them, within a few months both were gone.

The fans underestimate the influence they can have.
 
HillsBill said:
Sorting out the board first. If they’re as bad as some suggest, and we don’t change, why would anyone better than Beale, Gio and Clement want to join us…….unless it’s the attraction of more compo?

Gilligan has made progress in improving the board but we’re still not quite there. Improving the board will help improve everything else.
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No one knows if the board has improved.
 
Now and forever said:
That's my point but the two new guys do not equate to 'the board'.
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But with Gilligan, they’re the start of change. And I’ll repeat - 3 weeks in post. People calling for the board to be fired need to say which members of the board they mean. Otherwise, it’s meaningless. And pointless.
 
Lets all throw Belgian Waffles onto the park before kickoff - cheaper than tennis balls and we are used to seeing a Belgian Waffle at Ibrox anyway
 
GersFanHutch said:
If things continue like this I think the board are in for a slight shock come renewal time. It’s not just about total sales it’s about uptake and other considerations such as CCCS subscription, MyGers memberships, and European packages (which already took a slight hit this year).

Ultimately if fans interpret from the club that 2nd place is becoming more and more the realistic target then interest will dwindle. In ticket sales, in merchandise, in everything. That’s just the truth. And that’s potentially 10s of millions of revenue lost.
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The ones running the club at the time got us put down the leagues.
The ones running the club failed to build on 55.
The ones running the club have appointed dud manager after dud manager.
The ones running the club play on the fans loyalty they use season tickets and the myth of a massive waiting list to scare fans into renewing as this takes away the threat of protests which would be a huge weapon if fans were going on a match by match basis.
I remember attending games at Ibrox with under 20k in attendance which led to the sounness revolution.
What do you think the attendance would be on Sunday if it was pay at the gate, how many only went to Dundee because they'd already been lumbered with a ticket.
Clement still being here at end of the season would see a massive downtake of season tickets.
 
TheCoplandRanger said:
Always easier to criticise than it is to come up with ideas.
See right now, I’d do anything (legal) to get a bit of bloody pride and standards back into this club.
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Easy to criticise bad ideas, block them in? And then what? Daft things like that wouldn’t end well, bit of common sense tells you that.
 
Fergie_6 said:
Easy to criticise bad ideas, block them in? And then what? Daft things like that wouldn’t end well, bit of common sense tells you that.
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It is easy to criticise bad ideas.
That is one of them.
But other forms of demonstration are a must and I include things that would stop play (safely)
 
NeilFifeLoyal said:
I'm open to ideas something needs to give here as we are an absolute shambles. Something I've thought about recently is a protest in terms of a fan walk out during a game. I know we need to keep backing the players however if the board don't act something really needs to be done. I'm at a loss to where we go from here it's sickening.
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Stop renewing. Stop buying shirts. Stop buying European tickets. Halt the flow of money in - they will soon sit up and take notice!
 
Scratcho1973 said:
Stop renewing. Stop buying shirts. Stop buying European tickets. Halt the flow of money in - they will soon sit up and take notice!
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No one is not renewing, the clamour for My Gers points will ensure that. It is bad enough that folk are buying subscriptions for programmes they dont want and season tickets for womens games they dont go to, to ensure they get tickets for European games that you suggest boycotting.

I am pretty sure the current board know exactly what the thoughts of the fans are already. The issue is how do they get out of this situation and who wants to take over the club once they do go. I see no encouragement of people on the sidelines with fists full of cash waiting to take advantage of the boards current situation. Other than Dave King who wants to take money out of the club rather than put it in.

Do we really want to go down that road to starve our club of money given the last set of accounts ? As a support we really need to look at the bigger picture here.
 
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Davie Weir said:
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Achieved what?
 
Bordersbear said:
No one is not renewing, the clamour for My Gers points will ensure that. It is bad enough that folk are buying subscriptions for programmes they dont want and season tickets for womens games they dont go to, to ensure they get tickets for European games that you suggest boycotting.

I am pretty sure the current board know exactly what the thoughts of the fans are already. The issue is how do they get out of this situation and who wants to take over the club once they do go. I see no encouragement of people on the sidelines with fists full of cash waiting to take advantage of the boards current situation. Other than Dave King who wants to take money out of the club rather than put it in.

Do we really want to go down that road to starve our club of money given the last set of accounts ? As a support we really need to look at the bigger picture here.
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Would you repeatedly pay money to watch a shite movie?
 
New ownership is required, the current board had record revenue at their disposal paid for by us fans but squandered it with their awful recruitment both on and off the park which has resulted in the 17m loss. Like all businesses in this situation downsizing and cost reduction is the only answer if the operation is to survive. The only answer is for a new ownership with new ideas and finance. Hopefully it will be of the correct type otherwise we’re f**ked either way.
 
HillsBill said:
But with Gilligan, they’re the start of change. And I’ll repeat - 3 weeks in post. People calling for the board to be fired need to say which members of the board they mean. Otherwise, it’s meaningless. And pointless.
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Is Gilligan still at the club?

If so, in what capacity?
 
SubGenius said:
Is Gilligan still at the club?

If so, in what capacity?
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He is still a director. He is there to help the new guys bed in and to help them make changes to the board. The plan is to have more independent directors and fewer investor directors. He said this when he was appointed. Gilligan is an independent sort of guy and no one’s patsy.

I get the fans anger, I’m a fan too and have been for 70 years. But they need to let Stewart, Thornton and Gilligan get on with what they’re doing.

Sacking the manager, the board, most of the players and pissing off the investors is the road to nowhere. This season is dead, Europe excepted, so there is nothing lost by giving them time to deliver. Fans can still boycott, cancel season tickets whatever if things don’t improve.

But corporate anarchy will harm us much much more.
 
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