Where do you stand on clement?

Wage bill is going down as we’re getting rid of players on big wages who aren’t contributing. I expect the squad will grow with time to a reasonable size and we’re already seeing younger players come through.

We’ll likely see a sale or two in the summer which will be reinvested. I think Clement will either get his head around these away games or he’ll get the sack.
The reduction of wage bill is in effect nonsense and is a cover for severe mismanagement. We had all those players leaving for £800k in the summer and to justify it the excuse was made it gets high earners off the wage bill and that'll allow our current management team to strengthen in the January window.
 
Easily the most fortunate manager in Rangers history considering how Van Bronkhorst was so very harshly and poorly treated after getting beat by a penalty kick to win the Europa League, winning the Scottish Cup and qualifying for the Champions League.

Not to mention the actual manner that the board treated Van Bronkhorst. Quite disgraceful.

Clement on the other hand is probably the second worst Rangers manager in our history yet he gets treated as a project manager and gets away with murder. Not to mention his totally useless sidekick Koppen.

He doesn’t get it and never will and next season the same shit will happen again. League over by Halloween.

Rangers is about winning.
 
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The reduction of wage bill is in effect nonsense and is a cover for severe mismanagement. We had all those players leaving for £800k in the summer and to justify it the excuse was made it gets high earners off the wage bill and that'll allow our current management team to strengthen in the January window.
Caused by mismanagement no doubt at all.

The reduction is needed though and has been a long time coming.
 
Easily the most fortunate manager on Rangers history considering how Van Bronkhorst was so poorly treated after getting beat by a penalty kick to win the Europa League, win the Scottish Cup and qualify for the Champions League.

Not to mention the actual manager that the board treated Van Bronkhorst.

Clement on the other hand is probably the second worst Rangers manager in our history yet he gets treated as a project manager. Not to mention his totally useless sidekick Koppen.

He doesn’t get it and never will and next season the same shit will happen again. League over by Halloween.

Rangers is about winning.
This.

And it's exactly why I want him gone.
 
Easily the most fortunate manager in Rangers history considering how Van Bronkhorst was so very harshly and poorly treated after getting beat by a penalty kick to win the Europa League, winning the Scottish Cup and qualifying for the Champions League.

Not to mention the actual manner that the board treated Van Bronkhorst. Quite disgraceful.

Clement on the other hand is probably the second worst Rangers manager in our history yet he gets treated as a project manager and gets away with murder. Not to mention his totally useless sidekick Koppen.

He doesn’t get it and never will and next season the same shit will happen again. League over by Halloween.

Rangers is about winning.

Genuinely never read so much shite and I've been in and out the transfer thread all day.
 
I kind of no longer have an opinion on him now. I think we'll just trundle along being the best of the rest now, we can't afford to sack him and we can't afford to not sack him, the board seem happy for him to stay regardless and he's not looking elsewhere either, so it feels pointless giving a view one way or the other. He's staying on and that's it. The team has done pretty well in Europe and is showing some signs of consistency now the pressure to maintain a title challenge has gone.
 
If he can sort the away form from now till the end of the season - that would be progress.
When you boil it all down, that’s been the biggest factor in the anti Clement sentiment.
Had we won a far bigger share of these - this wouldn’t be a conversation.

A Scottish cup win would be a real marker, but I don’t think that will cost him his job if we are narrowly beaten in the final - particularly if it’s another SFA controversy!!!
 
He needs to fix the away league form. One win at Dundee United doesn’t make that all good now.

If he doesn’t win the Scottish cup he should be let go.
 
So what realistically changes next season?

We still are unlikely to have the squad depth needed as the wage bill is clearly being driven down at all costs meaning a smaller squad with less options going forward.

In terms of tactics we either stick with PC who I doubt will ever be good enough to win the league or bin him and start again from square one.
We will sell at least 1 and probably 2 assets for somewhere in the region of £20 million combined and we will invest around 3/4 of that back into the squad over around 4-5 players that cost Jefte/Iggy money.
 
The reduction of wage bill is in effect nonsense and is a cover for severe mismanagement. We had all those players leaving for £800k in the summer and to justify it the excuse was made it gets high earners off the wage bill and that'll allow our current management team to strengthen in the January window.
Eh? The reduction in wage bill is a cast iron necessity and was caused directly by extreme mismanagement at board level. We had no choice but to get the bill down to something close to operating within our means.


It is baffling how so many folk have direct access to not only our accounts, but detailed analysis of them, and STILL do not grasp the utter shit-show we became over the past few years.
 
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I must admit a few months ago I was calling for his head. Away form was so poor that I struggled to see a way forward. However what I can see is that changes are being made at the club and in my opinion for the better. Scrapping of the B team will allow our youth a clearer path to the first team, getting rid of high wage poor performing players, brining in young talent, brining in Scottish talent and cutting our cloth accordingly. Phil is a big part of that and also Koppen. We need to modernise our club and change the model we have in order to set ourselves up for long term success. We cannot make such drastic changes without some pain and this season was always going to be a tall order with such a massive squad cull. Right now we will not attract a better manager imo. I back the manager and team to bring us success.
 
Mate, you spend your life finding negativity in absolutely every aspect of the club.
I’m not sure what you really want

That's because there is plenty to be negative about. You feel we're on the right track, based on what I see, I'm not as enthusiastic as you are.

I'll try and give you an example of how I see it.

When Souness came in, boy were we in a mess. So what did he do? He immediately brought in a top class goalkeeper and as an inspiring captain/leader/centre half as you could hope to find.

Now admittedly we had some luck with the English clubs still being banned from Europe post Heysel, so we were an attractive proposition for these English players.

However, the nucleus of the side that won that 86/87 title were already at the club. Munro, McPherson, Derek Ferguson, Ian Durrant, McCoist and of course Cooper who would enjoy an Indian summer both at Ibrox and Fir park. Then there was your McMinns and Cammy Frasers who did us a turn and of course Graham Roberts came in as our Christmas present.

I believe for this present squad to make a serious challenge next season it will take a lot more than just a centre half and a goalkeeper to get the ball rolling. If we're giving Jefte the benefit of the doubt because of his youth, we still require a GK, RB and two central defenders who aren't made of glass and can handle the physical side of the game up here.

So basically that's an entire defence need bedding inand we won't be getting a Butcher type for half a mill or at today's financial equivalent either.

The midfield and attack at this time are too eratic and inconsistent and nobody typifies the Jeckyll and Hyde nature of the squad more than Diomande. He can look top drawer in Europe yet is posted missing too often in run of the mill games as we have seen beofore and after the turn of the year.

This isn't me singling out Diamonde specifically, I'm using him as an example. But the fact is a top class performance followed up by a handful of poor games are no use to us when we need to grind out results in the hustle and bustle of Scottish football. That applies to all our squad.

We can add in what we have to endure from officials but that is a battle for the club to fight, which I just don't see it. However, that a separate debate for another day.

The squad in my opinion is still at least a handful of top class acquisitions away from giving us what is required domestically. You may see that as me being negative. I view it as being realistic.
 
Easily the most fortunate manager in Rangers history considering how Van Bronkhorst was so very harshly and poorly treated after getting beat by a penalty kick to win the Europa League, winning the Scottish Cup and qualifying for the Champions League.

Not to mention the actual manner that the board treated Van Bronkhorst. Quite disgraceful.

Clement on the other hand is probably the second worst Rangers manager in our history yet he gets treated as a project manager and gets away with murder. Not to mention his totally useless sidekick Koppen.

He doesn’t get it and never will and next season the same shit will happen again. League over by Halloween.

Rangers is about winning.

Clement will never win us the league. This has been pretty much evident from the start.

I agree next season will be the same.

Mind boggling the lengths folk will go to defend him. We also have the most bipolar fickle fans in the world. Folk on here can go from wanting him crucified to nah give the man some more time over the course of a win against the likes of Dundee Utd.
 
Eh? The reduction in wage bill is a cast iron necessity and was caused directly by extreme mismanagement at board level. We had no choice but to get the bill down to something close to operating within our means.


It is baffling how so many folk have direct access to not only our accounts, but detailed analysis of them, and STILL do not grasp the utter shit-show we became over the past few years.
What was the reason how we became an utter shit-show. We let about six players leave and only got around £800k, Ross County would probably get more if they sold six players.
 
What was the reason how we became an utter shit-show. We let about six players leave and only got around £800k, Ross County would probably get more if they sold six players.
The reason we became a shit show is because we paid players more than they were worth to us, rendering them impossible to move on for decent sums because nobody was willing to match their wage. We then had to either pay them up for the remainder of their contract, pay them to leave or accept next to nothing for them to allow the buying club to offset the wage they had to pay.

Ross County would not find themselves in anything like a similar situation because they would never be paying English Championship players £20k per week plus as their careers began to wind down, and on long term contracts.


You have singularly failed to understand what happened last summer and can see only the headline figures.
 
Far from convinced and think he's doomed to failure.

Sticks to a system not suited for playing against Scottish teams who would rather lose 1-0 defending deep than attack and risk a thumping.

He's failed in nearly every big test, unluckily I may add, but that's the crux of the matter.

Granted we are rebuilding but the catastrophic collapse last season when the title was effectively ours to lose, and the frankly embarrassing away record just isn't good enough for me.

European results have masked a lot and fair play but we need to win the bread and butter and he's not shown enough variety in Scotland to convince that he's anything other than a man doomed to failure.

Caveat that by hoping I'm wrong but that's my thruppence worth
 
That's because there is plenty to be negative about. You feel we're on the right track, based on what I see, I'm not as enthusiastic as you are.

I'll try and give you an example of how I see it.

When Souness came in, boy were we in a mess. So what did he do? He immediately brought in a top class goalkeeper and as an inspiring captain/leader/centre half as you could hope to find.

Now admittedly we had some luck with the English clubs still being banned from Europe post Heysel, so we were an attractive proposition for these English players.

However, the nucleus of the side that won that 86/87 title were already at the club. Munro, McPherson, Derek Ferguson, Ian Durrant, McCoist and of course Cooper who would enjoy an Indian summer both at Ibrox and Fir park. Then there was your McMinns and Cammy Frasers who did us a turn and of course Graham Roberts came in as our Christmas present.

I believe for this present squad to make a serious challenge next season it will take a lot more than just a centre half and a goalkeeper to get the ball rolling. If we're giving Jefte the benefit of the doubt because of his youth, we still require a GK, RB and two central defenders who aren't made of glass and can handle the physical side of the game up here.

So basically that's an entire defence need bedding inand we won't be getting a Butcher type for half a mill or at today's financial equivalent either.

The midfield and attack at this time are too eratic and inconsistent and nobody typifies the Jeckyll and Hyde nature of the squad more than Diomande. He can look top drawer in Europe yet is posted missing too often in run of the mill games as we have seen beofore and after the turn of the year.

This isn't me singling out Diamonde specifically, I'm using him as an example. But the fact is a top class performance followed up by a handful of poor games are no use to us when we need to grind out results in the hustle and bustle of Scottish football. That applies to all our squad.

We can add in what we have to endure from officials but that is a battle for the club to fight, which I just don't see it. However, that a separate debate for another day.

The squad in my opinion is still at least a handful of top class acquisitions away from giving us what is required domestically. You may see that as me being negative. I view it as being realistic.
Your comparison with Souness only underlines the challenges we now face. We need a radically different approach to what we've done in the past, and that's what we're starting to see take shape.

Aye our players are inconsistent, but that's what you get with young players at the beginning. They won't be inconsistent forever. We need to give them time to develop and a stable environment. We won 55 undefeated with virtually the same players who had disintegrated the season before.

The days of signing England starters are never coming back; developing and selling players at profit is the only option we have to compete in modern football. That is realism.
 
His domestic away form has to change drastically, if it doesn't then we can't carry on with him.

Hope I'm wrong because I backed him for a long time but I can't see Clement turning it round.
 
I'm 100% behind the guy, probably more so now than at any previous point.

I'm not going into how it came about yet again, but Clement inherited a mess that was not easily or quickly sorted. We took a short-cut to success under King and just got off with it; under Parks and then Bennett it caught up with us big time. In reality it was only a matter of time until it did, because since we came back up we hadn't built the kind of foundations that could provide sustained success.

Most managers last summer would have asked for a few players, enjoyed a short term bounce and we'd probably be heading for an even deeper hole by now as the underlying issues caught up with us once again. Clement was man enough to take on the job of fixing the club properly, despite knowing the expectation levels and seeing that structural help within the club was lacking (no CEO or DoF). He's gone about the task methodically and cleverly and he's almost always dealt with setbacks calmly and correctly.

What I like maybe even more is that he doesn't just get the club, he clearly loves it. Clement is a football guy; he could get more money and an easier life elsewhere, but actually building something at club that is big in the way that Rangers is motivates him much more.

At a macro level he's exactly the guy we need and given the proper support he will build a legacy period for us. There will still be bumps on the road though, we need to accept that.
We deserve all we get.
 
We deserve all we get.
Absolutely frightening what’s happened to us, I’ve never felt more disconnected from the Rangers supporter.

The post you’re replying to is mainly made up drivel but it seems that’s what a lot of folk have convinced themselves to believe. Must make them sleep better when they have to watch Callum McGregor lift another league trophy.
 
I'm still with him, partly because I don't see a better alternative.

Wouldn't be surprised to see us end the season strongly then fall apart like a wet cake at the start of next season though.
 
I like most things about him but unless he can find and impart a style and intensity that wins consistently away from home in the spfl we have to get rid of him.

He’s made a rod for his own back so now he basically has to win all our away games until the end of the season to show there’s been a change. Even then he’ll start next season on a short leash.
 
I like most things about him but unless he can find and impart a style and intensity that wins consistently away from home in the spfl we have to get rid of him.

He’s made a rod for his own back so now he basically has to win all our away games until the end of the season to show there’s been a change. Even then he’ll start next season on a short leash.

That's just silly
 
Caused by mismanagement no doubt at all.

The reduction is needed though and has been a long time coming.
I still think the mismanagement came from the chairman before Gilligan and James Bisgrove who made decisions with Beale spending and wasting so much money. In addition, the board failed the club by failing to recognise obvious oncoming problems.
 
The reason we became a shit show is because we paid players more than they were worth to us, rendering them impossible to move on for decent sums because nobody was willing to match their wage. We then had to either pay them up for the remainder of their contract, pay them to leave or accept next to nothing for them to allow the buying club to offset the wage they had to pay.

Ross County would not find themselves in anything like a similar situation because they would never be paying English Championship players £20k per week plus as their careers began to wind down, and on long term contracts.


You have singularly failed to understand what happened last summer and can see only the headline figures.
With paying them more than they are worth resulting in us being unable to move them on is mismanagement.
 
Absolutely frightening what’s happened to us, I’ve never felt more disconnected from the Rangers supporter.

The post you’re replying to is mainly made up drivel but it seems that’s what a lot of folk have convinced themselves to believe. Must make them sleep better when they have to watch Callum McGregor lift another league trophy.
I'm interested to know what you believe, since you're so keen to accuse others of living in a fantasy land.

Say you acquired 100% of the shares in the club on 1st January 2024 - how would you have gone about things since then?
 
There were “is anybody even still backing him” comments here when we went 1-0 down at Dundee Utd a mere 7 days ago.

Now it appears there’s been a shift in the mindset of many these last 7 days.

I was always of the view….Rome wasn’t built in a day. I wasn’t happy with the results but I was almost certain we’d be having the same debate 12 months down the line with the new guy.

It was more prudent to give him time a month ago and still is now. The European results particularly show how important stability is over these next 3 months.

Of course, short of winning the Europa league, nothing will save him from a poor start next year.

The first old firm game will be at Ibrox and I expect us to, at the very least, be neck and neck in a title race come Halloween
Not just the next three months but from now on.

We haven’t had stability in the club for way too long, whether it be at team or board level, and it’s a huge part in how the club and the team have performed and also the cause of many of our woes.

If we achieve some sort of stability from the board through to the management and squad from now it can only be a good thing.
 
Easily the most fortunate manager in Rangers history considering how Van Bronkhorst was so very harshly and poorly treated after getting beat by a penalty kick to win the Europa League, winning the Scottish Cup and qualifying for the Champions League.

Not to mention the actual manner that the board treated Van Bronkhorst. Quite disgraceful.

Clement on the other hand is probably the second worst Rangers manager in our history yet he gets treated as a project manager and gets away with murder. Not to mention his totally useless sidekick Koppen.

He doesn’t get it and never will and next season the same shit will happen again. League over by Halloween.

Rangers is about winning.
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Theres only so long we can keep reducing the wage budget at somepoint we need to bring in better quality players which will command a higher wage, the problem has been we have gave average players too much money and ones who weren’t contributing.

but again should clement be getting more out of the players we already have?
 
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That's because there is plenty to be negative about. You feel we're on the right track, based on what I see, I'm not as enthusiastic as you are.

I'll try and give you an example of how I see it.

When Souness came in, boy were we in a mess. So what did he do? He immediately brought in a top class goalkeeper and as an inspiring captain/leader/centre half as you could hope to find.

Now admittedly we had some luck with the English clubs still being banned from Europe post Heysel, so we were an attractive proposition for these English players.

However, the nucleus of the side that won that 86/87 title were already at the club. Munro, McPherson, Derek Ferguson, Ian Durrant, McCoist and of course Cooper who would enjoy an Indian summer both at Ibrox and Fir park. Then there was your McMinns and Cammy Frasers who did us a turn and of course Graham Roberts came in as our Christmas present.

I believe for this present squad to make a serious challenge next season it will take a lot more than just a centre half and a goalkeeper to get the ball rolling. If we're giving Jefte the benefit of the doubt because of his youth, we still require a GK, RB and two central defenders who aren't made of glass and can handle the physical side of the game up here.

So basically that's an entire defence need bedding inand we won't be getting a Butcher type for half a mill or at today's financial equivalent either.

The midfield and attack at this time are too eratic and inconsistent and nobody typifies the Jeckyll and Hyde nature of the squad more than Diomande. He can look top drawer in Europe yet is posted missing too often in run of the mill games as we have seen beofore and after the turn of the year.

This isn't me singling out Diamonde specifically, I'm using him as an example. But the fact is a top class performance followed up by a handful of poor games are no use to us when we need to grind out results in the hustle and bustle of Scottish football. That applies to all our squad.

We can add in what we have to endure from officials but that is a battle for the club to fight, which I just don't see it. However, that a separate debate for another day.

The squad in my opinion is still at least a handful of top class acquisitions away from giving us what is required domestically. You may see that as me being negative. I view it as being realistic.
As you admit - Woods, Butcher, Roberts etc would never have come here out with the euro ban.
You are being too critical mate. We have lots of talent here, comparable with Sourness's teams.
The Euro performances are evidence of that.
I admit consistency is a definite issue but with more experience and a wee bit of luck we are not too far away domestically. The club is having to go the current route due to financial situation whether we like it or not.
I honestly don't see any other options barring huge investment that is never coming.
 
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I like him. He is a good manager and I'm convinced the club is moving in the right direction, finally, and don't see any point in replacing him now or in the summer. I think the last two transfer windows have been decent and necessary. Hopefully they can continue this trend in the summer window as we should all expect better things next season.
 
As you admit - Woods, Butcher, Roberts etc would never have come here out with the euro ban.
You are being too critical mate. We have lots of talent here, comparable with Sourness's teams.
The Euro performances are evidence of that.
I admit consistency is a definite issue but with more experience and a wee bit of luck we are not too far away domestically. The club is having to go the current route due to financial situation whether we like it or not.
I honestly don't see any other options barring huge investment that is never coming.
The current team is not anywhere near the level inherited by Souness. That team were far superior than what we have now.

Yes, we are in a financial mess due to successive board members but Clement could have bought a striker last January that would have easily got us the title in May and automatic entry to the Champions League.

We weren’t robbed either in Old Firm games as the manager has mainly been at fault due to his inability to stem McGregor. Clement also caused the defeat against Benfica in the last 16 of the Europa League by not having any player left on the half way line when we had a corner kick - that is what caused the goal.

His signings are baffling eg the loan signing of Silva, Propper who is as slow as milk turning and the signing of Cortes after he hardly kicked a ball due to injury last season.

The recent loan signing too is mind boggling ie bringing a guy in on loan at centre half who has hardly ever had experience of first team football and hasn’t played since September.
 
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The current team is not anywhere near the level inherited by Souness. That team were far superior than what we have now.

Yes, we are in a financial mess due to successive board members but Clement could have bought a striker last January that would have easily got us the title in May and automatic entry to the Champions League.

We weren’t robbed either in Old Firm games as the manager has mainly been at fault due to his inability to stem McGregor. Clement also caused the defeat against Benfica in the last 16 of the Europa League by not having any player left on the half way line when we had a corner kick - that is what caused the goal.

His signings are baffling eg the loan signing of Silva, Propper who is as slow as milk turning and the signing of Cortes after he hardly kicked a ball due to injury last season.

The recent loan signing too is mind boggling ie bringing a guy in on loan at centre half who has hardly ever had experience of first team football and hasn’t played since September.

that team that ended the pre-Souness season

Yahoos h - 4-4
Hearts a 1-3
Clydebank a 1-2
St Mirren a 1-2
Motherwell h 2-0

featuring the likes of Dawson, McCloy, Burns, Derek Johnstone at CB, McKInnon, Bell
even the genius of Cooper was nearing the end of his time

far superior?
 
The recent loan signing too is mind boggling ie bringing a guy in on loan at centre half who has hardly ever had experience of first team football and hasn’t played since September.
Interesting this, a quick look at your post history has a lot of these mad statements and writing off players.

Like you saying we could have spent the £1.7m we paid for Igamane (who you said amongst other things looked to be shitting himself when he came on the park and raw was an understatement) much more wisely, like paying £3m for Shankland.

"Jeremy" as you called him was clearly behind the curve (big time) in this decision.

I'd be inclined to think you don't have a clue and are just bumping your gums needlessly again.
 
that team that ended the pre-Souness season

Yahoos h - 4-4
Hearts a 1-3
Clydebank a 1-2
St Mirren a 1-2
Motherwell h 2-0

featuring the likes of Dawson, McCloy, Burns, Derek Johnstone at CB, McKInnon, Bell
even the genius of Cooper was nearing the end of his time

far superior?
Yes they were far superior in every sense and Cooper was not near the end of his career albeit near the end of his time at Ibrox….he left too soon.

That era had a Dundee United that made the European Cup Semi Final and an Aberdeen that won the European Cup Winners Cup as well as beating Hamburg’s to win the Europa Super Cup.

I am well aware of the standard of football then and now.
 
Interesting this, a quick look at your post history has a lot of these mad statements and writing off players. I can see you saying we could have spent the £1.7m on Igamane much more wisely, like paying £3m for Shankland.

I'd be inclined to think you don't have a clue and are just bumping your gums needlessly again.
I would say that is you are completely and utterly clueless and simply don’t like someone having an opposing point of view.

The Shankland signing would have won us the league last season but then you are completely and utterly incapable of realising that.
 
As with any of our staff I only want them to be replaced if the replacement adds something to our side. Honestly I’m not sure we can realistically do better (or can actually afford to get rid of him). I’ll stick with him (but hope he learns to hold his bloody nerve!!)
 
I would say that is you are completely and utterly clueless and simply don’t like someone having an opposing point of view.

The Shankland signing would have won us the league last season but then you are completely and utterly incapable of realising that.
Shankland who scored less goals than Dessers did for the remainder of that season, and has now scored like 4 goals in 28 games? Really? He'd have been a better option at twice the price?

Since that Window, Dessers has scored nearly 3 times as many goals as Shankland has. I don't see how you can think a fat, lazy striker who scores nowhere near as many goals wins us the league.

Igamane, who's signing you were slating, just like you are about the new boy above, has also now scored more than 3 times of the goals Shankland has, in far far less gametime.

I'm the clueless one?
 
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Shankland who scored less goals than Dessers did for the remainder of that season, and has now scored like 4 goals in 28 games? Really? He'd have been a better option at twice the price?

Since that Window, Dessers has scored nearly 3 times as many goals as Shankland has. I don't see how you can think a fat, lazy striker who scores nowhere near as many goals wins us the league.

Igamane, who's signing you were slating, just like you are about the new boy above, has also now scored more than 3 times of the goals Shankland has, in far far less gametime.

I'm the clueless one?
You are absolutely clueless as the Shankland or another goal scorer this time last year would have won us the league with automatic entry to the Champions League and £40m.

Take your time and work this one out.

By the way I did not ‘slate’ Igamane.
 
Want him out we will never win the league under clement. We’re stuck with him for now so is what it is but if we take him into next season then we may as well chuck it
 
Jury is 100% still out. Always easier to win once the pressure of a title challenge is gone. Europe has saved him so far imo.

Team playing better than they were but improvement still needed both home and away. Second half today wasn’t good at all and his subs probably made it worse.

Also needs to improve his signings, something that has improved but that’s not all on him
Exactly right about the pressure. He’s gonna close the gap and maybe win the Scottish cup and folk will go he can do it next season and the same thing will happen again. Get him out as soon as we can. Talks one lot of shite as well
 
You are absolutely clueless as the Shankland or another goal scorer this time last year would have won us the league with automatic entry to the Champions League and £40m.

Take your time and work this one out.

By the way I did not ‘slate’ Igamane.
Dessers has scored many more goals than Shankland since that window, how do you explain that? Shankland comes in and scores less goals, less assists but he’d have won us the league? Really?

He also had more key chances and shots than Dessers did, so it’s not that.

There’s a reason not a single decent club has be shown any interest in Shankland.

The above poster has you worked out too.
 
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