crmpicco
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This is the reality. No Rangers player can be a legend without lifting silverware.Until his goals turn us into winners there will always be question marks.
This is the reality. No Rangers player can be a legend without lifting silverware.Until his goals turn us into winners there will always be question marks.
This is the reality. No Rangers player can be a legend without lifting silverware.Until his goals turn us into winners there will always be question marks.
I just double checked, and he's actually ahead of mccoist by some distance for goals at same age.
So just now that's only DJ, who had 100 goals for us aged 23.
Not bad though if it's only Johnstone ahead of you
Until his goals turn us into winners there will always be question marks.
This team are currently vastly overrated imho but become silverware botherers and he will rocket up the charts.
Until his goals turn us into winners there will always be question marks.
This team are currently vastly overrated imho but become silverware botherers and he will rocket up the charts.
At the risk of being pedantic, Negri was over 20 years ago.
The pre-injury Mols would be top- although if i was to be even more pedantic then that would be just over 20 years ago as well But other than that I wouldn't be swapping Morelos for any of them.
You change your mind like the weather and I'm not sure if you just try too hard to appear as some sort of football guru.
How can you say the team is overrated when there is a thread here with a lot of people saying they haven't won anything?
I am saying NO ONE in the team is a legend or 'best ever' as they've done nothing. When they convert potential to delivery then I am 99% sure we will see them graded more appropriately in the list of 'top ten' strikers, midfielders etc.
Look forward to the next thread about it, see what you decide then
Morelos has been an awful lot better for Rangers than Miller was in his best spell with us. 20 more goals in a shorter period. You could also argue his performances in Europe are beyond anything Miller produced in any competition.
Miller predominantly played Champions League football for Rangers, in a tougher competition I would expect a slightly less than level of performance as such.
I can't even imagine the difference in goals between Boyd and Prso, I would imagine it must be ridiculous - the difference between the two is a chasm though.
It isn't always solely about goals.
Miller second time around helped elevate a team that in reality was less than those they were facing to be more than them, and that did end with trophies on the table.
Rangers have often went into league races in the last 15 years as second favorites spending less than Celtic and moving on our better players yet overcoming Celtic - it was in part because of the
contribution of players like Miller that was possible.
The harsh reality is in recent seasons, part of the reason we have failed in Cups hasn't actually even been budget related etc - last year we were knocked out by Aberdeen - a side we are more than.
Morelos is an excellent player, no one is talking him down.... it's just that a lot of our fans have lived and seen what "good" Rangers looks like
Miller's not a bad comparison in many ways. His work ethic, desire to improve, chasing and harrying ability, speed and instinctive finishing are all similar. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if Alfie picked up some of that from Kenny as he looked like an out and out poacher in Finland.
I think Morelos though is much physically stronger which allows him to show off his link play better and roll defenders in a way Miller couldn't.
The biggest difference though is Morelos' flair. He has an x factor Miller never had to do something out of the ordinary. Miller would never have scored either of Alfie's last two goals. He might have got the one against Livi a different way by running across the defender and using his experience to put him in a position he couldn't be tackled but he wouldn't have got anything out of the Porto "chance"
McCoist wouldn’t have he joined us at 22.Does anyone know where he ranks in the all time list of goals at the current age he is?
I can only think of DJ and mccoist that had scored more goals for us aged 23
Can't find the stats on brand, mcphail etc
Top goal scorer in Scotland....Boyd?
Hahahaha
No it won’t. Medals are won by the team and a goal against St Mirren means just just much as a goal against Celtic if we win and collect 3 pointsUntil he wins something for us and starts to torment the Yahoos on a regular basis then that will always count against him in any analysis.
Miller predominantly played Champions League football for Rangers, in a tougher competition I would expect a slightly less than level of performance as such.
I can't even imagine the difference in goals between Boyd and Prso, I would imagine it must be ridiculous - the difference between the two is a chasm though.
It isn't always solely about goals.
Miller second time around helped elevate a team that in reality was less than those they were facing to be more than them, and that did end with trophies on the table.
Rangers have often went into league races in the last 15 years as second favorites spending less than Celtic and moving on our better players yet overcoming Celtic - it was in part because of the
contribution of players like Miller that was possible.
The harsh reality is in recent seasons, part of the reason we have failed in Cups hasn't actually even been budget related etc - last year we were knocked out by Aberdeen - a side we are more than.
Morelos is an excellent player, no one is talking him down.... it's just that a lot of our fans have lived and seen what "good" Rangers looks like
You’re often talking about team achievements when it comes to Miller. If you genuinely feel he was a better striker than Morelos then I fear for your sanity.
I don't agree on the last part at all personally, by the time he left second time around Miller had some excellent goals on his CV.
All Rangers goals are excellent and I really liked Milller's second spell but he just didn't have that in his locker.
Open up his body, flick it away from the defender with his standing foot and then volley it with the same foot whilst falling - sorry, no.
Miller would have taken it on his good foot and driven round the outside of the defender like 99.9% of strikers. It's not that he couldn't do it technically - maybe - but he just wouldn't have seen the opportunity was there.
McCoist wouldn’t have he joined us at 22.
I thought he was 22? Don’t think he’ll have scored as many as Morelos has regardlessNope
He joined us aged 20 and turned 21 in the September of his first season
I thought he was 22? Don’t think he’ll have scored as many as Morelos has regardless
Good going that considering it wasn’t exactly the strongest Rangers team when he first joined, I wasn’t even thought of then 91 born, have met him and he was a gentlemanHe actually wasn't that far off, he had 65 goals by the end of his third full season when he was 23.
I never said otherwise as far as I know....I DID say Alfie was worth as much as biscuit hips but I've generally preached caution in hailing this squad as anything special until they've achieved something.
At 23 now he has.Only pre-injury Mols ahead of him for me.
Frightening to think that at 22 he will
Only get better.
I’m glad Morelos is still being underrated by the media, other fans and also evidently by some of our own who wouldn’t know a player if their life depended on it, maybe it’ll mean he’ll be here longer so folk can rabble pish whilst he’s rattling in the goals.
I can understand it from the press but some of the eejits on here defy belief, hilariously wanky po-faced takes.
He has some attributes that are very obvious - his strength, his ability to roll a defender, and his goalscoring ability. That's all improved this season, but what's really amazed me is how he's coming back to get the ball; his little quick flicks & touches to run the ball into the path of another player; and maybe most of all, some of his long-range passing. He's hit many pinpoint passes the full width of Ibrox, usually to Tavernier.
I think there has been a dramatic improvement in his heading over the last 18 months too.
Those chances he missed at the Chamber of Secrets back then he would finish comfortably now.
He missed a sitter at the weekend by dithering yet buried the hardest chance he's still at times overthinks it but when he doesn't it's a goal.
He missed a sitter at the weekend by dithering yet buried the hardest chance he's still at times overthinks it but when he doesn't it's a goal.
He’s a developing 23yo SB. I personally love him albeit he is human.
I’m old enough to remember Ally, Prso, Nikica & Michael Mols.
I think time has taken a lot of people’s recollections of things they did wrong & chances they missed too.
I even watched a PSG match last season where the 200m Mbappe missed a TRUE SITTER that some would have never shut up about were it Morelos.
And what about his second goal v Hearts or his Porto goal ? Absolute top class stuff.
Let’s be fair.
Everyone misses no doubt I was just saying its not something that he has eradicated from his game.
I just have to laugh how people compare Morelos to the likes of McCoist who had twenty odd hat-tricks for us, mind blowing.
No one gave you a lecture on Ally I mentioned him as you did in your initial post and further back the thread some rated Morelos up there I thought hey they must be very young supporters.Maybe it’s because I saw almost every game Ally played for us SB ?
And I was there ( and supporting him ) the day they sang Ally Ally GTF at him so I don’t need a lecture about Ally thank you.
Morelos’s European record is actually better than Alky’s on a game by game average & he’s played on average in worse teams than Ally did.
But what’s your point anyway mate ? Why did you choose Ally but not Mols or Dado ?
I chose him among other top strikers we’ve had over the last 30 or so years.
Why did you pick him out ? And while you have, how many times have you seen Ally leading the line on his own ?
He missed a sitter at the weekend by dithering yet buried the hardest chance he's still at times overthinks it but when he doesn't it's a goal.
He’s been one on one with the goalkeeper on more than a few occasions this season and buried it with plenty of time to think. Young Boys and Midtylland for example.
I’m struggling to think of any more this season where you could back up that assertion to be honest, he barely misses these days.
No one gave you a lecture on Ally I mentioned him as you did in your initial post and further back the thread some rated Morelos up there I thought hey they must be very young supporters.
I really don’t want to get into comparisons anyway Smiley Bear.
All of these guys have done great things for our magnificent club.
All I’m saying is that Morelos turned 23 in June & he’s done incredibly well for us, has been a MAJOR factor in us qualifying for the EL Group Stages twice and is an absolute joy to watch despite his young years.
It’s a long time since I’ve loved watching one of our players like I do him, despite his imperfections.
Been great this year has turned himself around after last season and we will make a great profit on him.
Hope so mate. After 55 is secured
Yes, we have to keep him past January but scoring in the European games will have got him more attention as coaches will value those goals higher than in our league.
I also agree we should never really judge players against former players let them be judged on what they do for us.
He was fouled and thus never even got a shot away, how is that missing a sitter?