Why do they always benefit from the ineligible player rule?

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They were reinstated into the CL in 2014 after a genuine mistake by Legia Warsaw (who were 6-1 up against the bheasts), similarly they benefitted a couple of years previously at the expense of Sion. The only difference in this instance is that Bolingologoli wilfully broke the rules, Legia and Sion were victims of genuine mistakes.

Precedent is out there so why arent the Scottish League following that precedent?

Corruption doesn't even begin to cover it.
 
Bolingoli was illegible to play due to his quarantine requirement. At no point was he ineligible to play.

There is a distinct difference technically but the fact is simple - he should never have been with the squad, let alone played.
 
It’s a joke the cuunts get off with everything

They to-date have got off scot free for covering up nearly 5 decades of CSA with 5 or 6 convictions with employees and staff at both CBC and CFC

The bastards have too many high level contacts to protect them
 
Div1872 said:
It’s a joke the cuunts get off with everything

They to-date have got off scot free for covering up nearly 5 decades of CSA with 5 or 6 convictions with employees and staff at both CBC and CFC

The bastards have too many high level contacts to protect them
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Let's be honest. Both the SPFL and SFA would make up a new rule regarding Covid, then apply it retrospectively for severe punishment if it was a Rangers player involved. The Piggery peasants will get away with this current incident, we all know it.
 
He technically wasn’t ineligible, to be ineligible he would have to have been banned or punished before the game , he might be ineligible for games in future after they have ( if they do ) punish him. think this has been explained and discussed to death now right enough.
 
Stornowaybear said:
That seems to be a 2+2=5 that is gathering pace on here. As far as I can see there’s no rule book that says that, unfortunately.
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Even if there was a desire for league to dock points I just cannot see any scenario where it wouldn't be challenged and be successful as there is nothing in the rulebook about it.

At most it will be a slap on the wrist fine based on a charge similar to what clubs get cited for when their players make gestures or have a touchline rammies etc.
 
GF7 said:
Even if there was a desire for league to dock points I just cannot see any scenario where it wouldn't be challenged and be successful as there is nothing in the rulebook about it.

At most it will be a slap on the wrist fine based on a charge similar to what clubs get cited for when their players make gestures or have a touchline rammies etc.
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100% guaranteed slap on the wrists and small fine and maybe a bigger fine for BB, he's one of their journeymen so he's an ideal sacrificial lamb.
 
They have free run of the game up here. The corruption awarding the league proved it. This will not be any different! They will get away with all charges.
 
Graemeh89 said:
He technically wasn’t ineligible, to be ineligible he would have to have been banned or punished before the game , he might be ineligible for games in future after they have ( if they do ) punish him. think this has been explained and discussed to death now right enough.
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OK mate, I'll let it go. But he was legally (due to quatrantine rules) unable to play in the match, call that what you will!
 
Bumplittledipper said:

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They were reinstated into the CL in 2014 after a genuine mistake by Legia Warsaw (who were 6-1 up against the bheasts), similarly they benefitted a couple of years previously at the expense of Sion. The only difference in this instance is that Bolingologoli wilfully broke the rules, Legia and Sion were victims of genuine mistakes.

Precedent is out there so why arent the Scottish League following that precedent?

Corruption doesn't even begin to cover it.
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Quite simply because they have no shame
 
With the new covid rules into football are they all known or can the corrupt fcuks in charge of Scottish football just make it up? The punishment should be clubs that haven't followed covid rules and can't play the win goes to the club they where due to play. The rest of Scotland would want a Rangers player jailed if it was one of them
 
Because they are shameless scum with friends in the right places. Posters will go on about rules and technicalities, while ignoring that it's these rules and technicalities they've either bent or got favoured interpretation for.
I have never celebrated a goal against them by a team (other than Us obviously) more than when Maribor put them out after Legia.
 
longtimedead said:
Bolingoli was illegible to play due to his quarantine requirement. At no point was he ineligible to play.

There is a distinct difference technically but the fact is simple - he should never have been with the squad, let alone played.
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Sorry mate, his name was clearly legible on the team sheet. Due to his requirement to self-quarantine, he was, by default, ineligible to play. IMHO.
 
Bumplittledipper said:

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They were reinstated into the CL in 2014 after a genuine mistake by Legia Warsaw (who were 6-1 up against the bheasts), similarly they benefitted a couple of years previously at the expense of Sion. The only difference in this instance is that Bolingologoli wilfully broke the rules, Legia and Sion were victims of genuine mistakes.

Precedent is out there so why arent the Scottish League following that precedent?

Corruption doesn't even begin to cover it.
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Legia was a mistake, which the tims took full advantage of, putting the appeal in literally seconds after the game finished.

Sion knew what they were doing before the game, and UEFA warned them if they played the players they would be kicked out. Stupidity, which unfortunately helped out the tims.

Bolingoli, even if the tims werent aware, is a breach of the rules, and should be an automatic 0-3 defeat.
 
Whether he was illegible or not probably depends on who wrote out the team sheet. ;)

As for being ineligible there are various reasons that a player may be properly registered with a club but ineligible for certain games. His registration may not have cleared by a specific deadline, he could be suspended making him ineligible, he could be cup tied, he may not have been listed in the squad for certain competitions or, given the Government guidelines and protocols surrounding Covid 19 are allegedly for the time being incorporated into the rules to allow football to resume, he may require to self isolate making him ineligible for selection. It's not like he was injured and could potentially recover in time for the game he was, according to the Government guidelines, required to self isolate for a stated period of 14 days making him ineligible for that period of time.

The claim that they didn't know is largely irrelevant as numerous clubs who have been punished previously for fielding ineligible players will testify to.

Quite simply he should not have been playing in a game when the rules we are currently operating under dictate that he should have been self isolating and nowhere near the stadium never mind selected to play.

This is simply another case of the mhanky mhob searching for some technicality to avoid punishment of any sort. Shameless.
 
RBRFC said:
Says who, Celtic? An issue over which the Bheasts are highly incentivised to lie, and you're taking them at face value.
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Aye, they knew he’d been to Spain but threw him on the pitch for a few minutes just because they like to live on the edge I guess? This is embarrassing stuff.
 
Graemeh89 said:
He technically wasn’t ineligible, to be ineligible he would have to have been banned or punished before the game , he might be ineligible for games in future after they have ( if they do ) punish him. think this has been explained and discussed to death now right enough.
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He doesn't need to be banned as he should have been in the house isolating therefore not able to play football.
If he isn't able to play he should not have been on the field or indeed anywhere else apart from his home watching his team on the telly.
 
Maybe because they are the most corrupt club in football. Legia Warsaw decision was absolutely disgusting, no consideration for the circumstances and the fact it made zero material difference to the tie.
 
GF7 said:
Even if there was a desire for league to dock points I just cannot see any scenario where it wouldn't be challenged and be successful as there is nothing in the rulebook about it.

At most it will be a slap on the wrist fine based on a charge similar to what clubs get cited for when their players make gestures or have a touchline rammies etc.
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I also believe that there was nothing in rule rule book about awarding titles rather than winning them.
 
Let's not get carried away here. There's a world of difference between playing a player who is not registered to play and one who failed to abide by the rules without the knowledge of his club. Could just as easily have happened to one of our players.
 
The player knowingly returned from a country where he had to quarantine for 14 days - he didn’t and broke the law.

He put his employers at risk and everyone there that he came into contact with. Is that Gross Misconduct or a Health and Safety issue ?
 
Johnny Fontane said:
Let's not get carried away here. There's a world of difference between playing a player who is not registered to play and one who failed to abide by the rules without the knowledge of his club. Could just as easily have happened to one of our players.
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Ineligible does not mean not registered. This is the line pedalled by the mhanky mhob in an attempt to avoid any form of punishment.

You can, in fact, be registered to play but still ineligible for selection for certain games or tournaments.

And ignorance is no defence there have been instances, for example, where clubs have played certain players who they believed to be free from suspension only to discover after the match that that was not the case - they were still punished.
 
Johnny Fontane said:
Let's not get carried away here. There's a world of difference between playing a player who is not registered to play and one who failed to abide by the rules without the knowledge of his club. Could just as easily have happened to one of our players.
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That’s true that it could have happened to anybody mate but I have some magic beans to sell to anybody who thinks we wouldn’t have been hammered as a club if one of our players had broken the criminal law to play in a game. (As there is a criminal law sanction here, it’s a situation completely distinct from the nonsense directed at us on eligibility because side letters weren’t lodged along with players contracts. )

It seems to me the new argument is that clubs shouldn’t be held responsible for an individual’s rogue actions unless that individual is Craig Whyte.

The issue here is he was registered to play but he had to break the Criminal law to play in that particular game. Are you eligible to play in a particular game if you have to break the law to do so? I don’t know. I do know what the the Petrie/Doncaster/Clare Whyte position on it would have been if it had been one of ours.
 
Boldvale said:
I also believe that there was nothing in rule rule book about awarding titles rather than winning them.
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That's why all 42 member clubs had a vote on it.

The legitimacy of how that vote was taken and the outcome of it though is highly debatable.
 
Whether there is a specific rule within the SPFL rule book regarding players requiring to quarantine it was a specific condition of the Government that permission to resume football was on the basis that the Goverment guidelines and protocols regarding covid 19 be adhered to in addition to a number of other clarifications re social bubbles and the like.

As such, while the Goverment restrictions are in place, i would imagine that those guidelines and protocols are to be accepted and considered as part of the rules under which football is permitted to be played until otherwise agreed.

That being the case a quarantined player, who should not be going to work in accordance with those guidelines, is therefore ineligible for selection during the period of his quarantine.

As such the bheggars fielded an ineligible player and there are specific rules governing that and precedent re punishment irrespective of whether the club knew or not.

Having said all that I doubt very much if the football authorities will go down that route and the mhankies, as is customary, will escape with little more than a slap on the wrist.
 
tcbuzz said:
Legia was a mistake, which the tims took full advantage of, putting the appeal in literally seconds after the game finished.

Sion knew what they were doing before the game, and UEFA warned them if they played the players they would be kicked out. Stupidity, which unfortunately helped out the tims.

Bolingoli, even if the tims werent aware, is a breach of the rules, and should be an automatic 0-3 defeat.
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as I asked in another thread, with the spfl/sfa formally starting proceedings against them, what is the Icelandic team's take on all this. Surely it's worth a punt to UEFA for them.
 
Johnny Fontane said:
Let's not get carried away here. There's a world of difference between playing a player who is not registered to play and one who failed to abide by the rules without the knowledge of his club. Could just as easily have happened to one of our players.
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the legia player was registered
 
Bolintoaly wasn't ineligible. There's no rule saying you are ineligible to play in those circumstances. Another cock up by the SFA/SPFL.
 
longtimedead said:
Bolingoli was illegible to play due to his quarantine requirement. At no point was he ineligible to play.

There is a distinct difference technically but the fact is simple - he should never have been with the squad, let alone played.
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Technical difference, fair enough. But sporting integrity should override that. Of course.
 
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