Why is Gilmour not in the Scotland squad?

WinkieWATP

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Not the biggest Scotland fan in the world however i've a question regards the national side.

Keep reading and hearing the press this young lad is getting and how good he is and is going to be. He is now 18 years old so why is he not in the squad now to build the team around him going forward?
 

WinkieWATP

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Personally wouldn’t throw the laddie into that pile of shite.
Would ruin him
Not saying throw him in. I was talking to an uncle whos nephew is playing with England tonight during the week and he told me Gilmour id the best boy he has ever seen.

So even have him in training etc so that when his time comes he is ready?
 

Smkz23

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Not the biggest Scotland fan in the world however i've a question regards the national side.

Keep reading and hearing the press this young lad is getting and how good he is and is going to be. He is now 18 years old so why is he not in the squad now to build the team around him going forward?
hes only started getting first team minutes,he needs to gain experience before building a team around him.
 

The Royal Standard

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Not saying throw him in. I was talking to an uncle whos nephew is playing with England tonight during the week and he told me Gilmour id the best boy he has ever seen.

So even have him in training etc so that when his time comes he is ready?
I’d imagine the lad your talking about still has plenty first team experience. Something Gilmore hasn’t a lot of as yet .
I reckon in due course he could well be a Scotland mainstay but the national squad is a car crash at the moment and I’d shelter him from that
 

millar2318

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I'd definitely take him and build a team around him

Why drag ourselves through constant mediocre shite in the midfield (let's face it they are despite it being our strongest position) for another few years.

McGinn and gilmour should be the fulcrum of that side, find out what works best around that
 

Jaymuz7

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Nah, not for me. Let the laddie grow. He doesn’t need the pressure of a nation thrust upon him before he even breaks through at Chelsea.
 

DavieM

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Did he impress in the U21 game during the week?? Only seen about 40 minutes and tbh nobody stood out for me.

If he isn't bossing games at that level then he shouldn't be anywhere near the full squad.
 

Bigclinthill

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Did he impress in the U21 game during the week?? Only seen about 40 minutes and tbh nobody stood out for me.

If he isn't bossing games at that level then he shouldn't be anywhere near the full squad.
I saw the second half and he didn't impress me to be honest, Glenn Middleton was probably the best Scotland player, I also thought the CB who played alongside Porteous did well, sorry I forget his name
 

prenzlauerbear

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I saw the second half and he didn't impress me to be honest, Glenn Middleton was probably the best Scotland player, I also thought the CB who played alongside Porteous did well, sorry I forget his name
Middleton is still one of the country's top prospects, IMO. He's fantastic for his age and could easily turn out better than someone like Forrest who is touted as a 15 million pound player.

There are zero benefits to be gained from putting Gilmour into the current Scotland side.
 

Davie Meiklejohn

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He can't play because our football culture is all wrong. We're scared to blood youngsters in case they are slaughtered, because we prefer to crucify every mistake ahead of creative play. We'd rather subject our talented young players to a useless dinosaur of a coach in Scott Gemmill, just to get them on message
 

devilman

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Probably because we are experiencing one of the single worst managers an International team has ever seen. However, one that ticks so many SFA boxes it's unreal. The SFA's sole project is to see Scottish football fail. Why pick and play our best players with that agenda?
 

Prestwick_ Bear

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Scotland as a national side are a fucking laughing stock. Clarke can change whatever he wants but it's a fucking shit show. That's the facts.
 

Yankeeger

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Not the biggest Scotland fan in the world however i've a question regards the national side.

Keep reading and hearing the press this young lad is getting and how good he is and is going to be. He is now 18 years old so why is he not in the squad now to build the team around him going forward?
Nowhere near it yet let him develop first
 

Bigclinthill

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To be fair to Billy Gilmour he was the youngest boy on the pitch, it was u21 and I think Billy is still only 18 so plenty of time for him, he is an exceptional talent and Scott Gemmill"style of football is pretty poor, I have been watching his Scotland teams for several years and he only has one tac!tic, lump the ball up to the big striker, whoever that striker is, Fraser Hornby, Connor McLennan, Oliver Burke.
 

Oduwa

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Possibly exploring options to play for England?

Born, grew up and developed in Scotland but that doesn’t mean he’ll automatically play for them if he has other options.
 

WinkieWATP

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He can't play because our football culture is all wrong. We're scared to blood youngsters in case they are slaughtered, because we prefer to crucify every mistake ahead of creative play. We'd rather subject our talented young players to a useless dinosaur of a coach in Scott Gemmill, just to get them on message
This QF is gone unless they somehow make it through the NL playoffs.

the last young Scottish player I can remember this kind of fuss about made his debut last night:oops:
 

ChiefWahoo

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I'm not saying he's bad, I'm saying if he can't seize a game by the scruff of the neck at that level, then playing him in Russia might not be a great idea.
You've based it entirely on one game though.
Playing him in Russia may not be ideal but there's no reason he couldn't be in the squad with a view to seeing some game time on sunday at home to San Marino.

The fact Charlie Mulgrew will start that game says it all about the Scotland set up.
 
You've based it entirely on one game though.
Playing him in Russia may not be ideal but there's no reason he couldn't be in the squad with a view to seeing some game time on sunday at home to San Marino.

The fact Charlie Mulgrew will start that game says it all about the Scotland set up.
Or he could stay in the u21 squad, where we have a chance of qualifying and play at a more appropriate level, get 90 mins, and learn all the wee tricks that foreign players have. If there's an u21 centre half we can call in to replace mulgrew, I'll take him though.
 

Billiericky

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Two Rangers blooded young, Derek Johnstone and Derek Parlane.
How old were they when they were first capped?
 

ChiefWahoo

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Or he could stay in the u21 squad, where we have a chance of qualifying and play at a more appropriate level, get 90 mins, and learn all the wee tricks that foreign players have. If there's an u21 centre half we can call in to replace mulgrew, I'll take him though.
I'm more of the belief that players should play, regardless of their age.
He's not going to pick up any more playing against Lithuania U21s than he would day to day at Chelsea where he'd be surrounded by players from all over the planet.
In saying that, I'll be happy for Scotland to continue on the road of missing major tournaments.
 
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