Why no Dutch.

[Penilee Gers]

I was sure Gio and his backroom staff would have picked out a few Dutch players who had potential and were young and maybe just one player with experience from the Eredevise . The players we have brought in look good up to now Tillman Colak Lawrence and Matondo no complaints here but when you see the figures that young dutch players eventually go for i would have liked one .

 

[Jelle1880]

We tried but they went to other clubs. Like Veerman for example.

Dutch clubs like PSV can pay more than we can, that's it basically.

 

[longtallsally]

You would have liked a young Dutch player, because they are Dutch?

 

[gu_bear]

Generally speaking in modern football Managers and coaches aren’t responsible for recruitment.

They’ll identify the positions they think they need and then it’s down to the recruitment team to identify and put players to them.

 

[club175]

It’s a suprise for sure but it’s the way we operate our transfers. While the manager will have an opinion, ultimately transfer targets arent gio s decision. All part of succession planning

 

[Cala Bona]

Sign players on ability not nationality

 

[Clarence]

I would have thought they would have known some talent from their homeland too. Veerman was the obvious target that we missed out on.

 

[scottishpoet]

Last time we had a Dutch manager signing Dutch players there were suggestions it started to create a 'them and us' disharmony in the dressing room.

 

[Smkz23]

We tried but they went to other clubs. Like Veerman for example.

Dutch clubs like PSV can pay more than we can, that's it basically.

Can they pay more? Isn’t our wage bill roughly similar to theirs?

 

[gabrielamato]

When Advocaat came in, he signed his players; hence the Dutch influence. I think it's much more likely to be a collaborative effort these days, across both van Bronckhorst's management team, and Wilson's recruitment team.

 

[Captain_Buns]

Don’t think it really matters. Maybe the targets were already identified before Gio even got in the door & he just had to say yes or no.

 

[TN8]

OP's spent the summer painting his hoose bright orange and growing a Ruud Gullit barnet & moustache, started schmoking weed and drinking Heineken. All for nothing. FFS Gio!

 

[RTD-BEAR]

If rumours are true we were heavily linked to xavi simons and he was considering it but we would go to what his wages were which was in excess of 30k a week....... he will be a star but its a lot for someone so young with our league

 

[RangersEasyOK!]

I was sure Gio and his backroom staff would have picked out a few Dutch players who had potential and were young and maybe just one player with experience from the Eredevise . The players we have brought in look good up to now Tillman Colak Lawrence and Matondo no complaints here but when you see the figures that young dutch players eventually go for i would have liked one .

We sign the players we need for what we deem to be of value.

Shouldnt be signing players based on where the backroom staff are from.

 

[Rjbear]

Were you hoping for a young Bert Konterman? Be careful what you wish for.

 

[Kent17]

Transfer window is still not finished.Time yet.

 

[artificialintoleranz]

I wonder if some will ever get over Veerman No doubt a talent but the boy gets homesick going for his messages. I think we dodged a bullet there tbh.

I think we did at least show a serious interest in a couple, never worked out though.

The Dutch are notoriously cliquey. Might have been alright had we bought one or maybe two, anymore than that and i don't think it would have been a great idea anyway.

 

[Disraeli]

If guys like RDB, GVB Mols and Numan were available today then I’m afraid we would have no chance of signing them.
In Advocaat’ day we could compete financially with most clubs outside the very top of the elite. Nowadays the top Dutch clubs or any club in the EPL can easily outspend us.

 

[Ambiorix]

Geen idee.

 

[strider]

I see it as a good thing, personally. I don't want us to be at the mercy of a manager when it comes to identifying and signing players, as such.

I also believe the Dutch players out there who would genuinely improve us are probably a little bit too expensive overall, and some others we did approach (Doekhi, Bazoer) decided to go elsewhere.

 

[Arlo]

I’m definitely glad there’s not been a few signed as they are notoriously cliquey. Surprised there’s not been any though, maybe it’s just there’s none representing value and fitting in with Gios requirements more than those already brought in according to the staff at the club.

I’m glad there’s none signed just because they are Dutch.

 

[Bigbluebear]

The manager doesn't identify the players we sign.

 

[MiseryHatesCompany]

OP's spent the summer painting his hoose bright orange and growing a Ruud Gullit barnet & moustache, started schmoking weed and drinking Heineken. All for nothing. FFS Gio!

and his poor partner being Dutch ovened

 

[Penilee Gers]

and his poor partner being Dutch ovened

All i asked was why no dutch now me and my relatives are being hounded no not hounded trolled by fellow bears i despair .

 

[archimedes]

Probably better that we don't have any Dutch players to be honest.

Our management team is Dutch. As soon as a Dutch player was playing poorly and wasn't dropped it would be due to favouritism according to most on here.

 

[cloodie]

Probably one of the most heavily scouted leagues there are. Very difficult to find someone of a decent level that clubs in better leagues aren't also looking at (or even the same league)

 

[MiseryHatesCompany]

All i asked was why no dutch now me and my relatives are being hounded no not hounded trolled by fellow bears i despair .

Happens to the best of us mate. Just laugh it off and keep posting.

 

[subversive_bear]

Rid Van Yilmaz

 

[lou riccios chipshop]

Last time we had a Dutch manager signing Dutch players there were suggestions it started to create a 'them and us' disharmony in the dressing room.

I remember that.

The Dutch national team even had its cliques.
Those with a driving licence and those without.

 

[Tugay1872]

Dutch no happy.

 

[Loyal72]

We wanted Veerman and Simons.

Priced out though.

Young Dutch players are expensive.

 

[GeckoBear29]

Why no question mark?

 

[gersandproud]

Like the above posts have already mentioned - we may well have been after players in the Dutch League - including ones we don't know about- but they have fallen through for whatever reason

Another thing that's possible is we've got our eye on others & are waiting for their contracts to run down - maybe a pre-contract agreement coming in the next window for example ?

 

[permatan]

For the same reason we don't have any Germans or French

 

[Essex Ranger]

Were you hoping for a young Bert Konterman? Be careful what you wish for.

Or even worse, a Van Vossen!

 

[RangersForever]

Or even worse, a Van Vossen!

Was a class international player, albeit he missed a sitter once.

 

[Barryhopez]

Why no Taiwanese?

 

[PT98]

Or even worse, a Van Vossen!

Was far better than BK. Ironically they are both remembered for one thing they did against celtic

 

[Glorious13]

The recruitment strategy shouldn't come from the Manager / Coach or you end up in a scattergun Man Utd situation. We have a full scouting / recruitement / analysis department who's job it is to identify targets.

 

[Captain America]

It doesn't matter where they're from.

 

[TQ3]

OP's spent the summer painting his hoose bright orange and growing a Ruud Gullit barnet & moustache, started schmoking weed and drinking Heineken. All for nothing. FFS Gio!

I think he just wants his own Bosvelt!

 

[Blutoe]

Was far better than BK. Ironically they are both remembered for one thing they did against celtic

Why not just type Konterman is stead of initials. Does my box in.

 

[Rangers daft]

Quite simply the manager isn't responsible for identifying targets. He can ask the scouting network to find a player for a certain position and then they come back with a list of realistic targets which he will have a final say in but he's not going to Ross Wilson and saying I want this player or that player. We don't operate that way anymore

 

[Rangers daft]

All i asked was why no dutch now me and my relatives are being hounded no not hounded trolled by fellow bears i despair .

Your from penilee bro.... If you grew up there in the 80s and 90s you should have a much thicker skin than worrying what people on here say to you

 

[luckywhitefeather]

I was surprised in the January transfer window that GVB /RM didn’t bring in players Theyd have earmarked from Holland or indeed China

 

[Rangers500]

The answer is quite simply we are a modern football club with a director of football. We were never going to buy up all the Dutch talent for gio. The targets we will have will have been being sourced by Ross Wilson and the recruitment team long before gio arrived in the building more than likely.

The DOF model means that you can drop a coach into the system and it shouldn’t need ripping up and starting again.

 

[Alan Partidge]

Why no question mark?

I once tried to hail a taxi dressed as an exclamation point, which actually helped!

 

[PT98]

Why not just type Konterman is stead of initials. Does my box in.

Doesn't really take a genius to work out tbh.

 

[Superior Talent]

I think if the right player came along and was Dutch we'd do what we could to get him.

In my opinion there's a couple factors. First one is Ross Wilson and the scouting group is ultimately the deciding force on who we'll sign. Next is the Dutch league for players of quality is not the cheapest about. Guys we like are maybe out of our range or would rather stay in Netherlands or goto Germany or France etc

I don't think we're targeting nationality at all these days

 

[Penilee Gers]

Your from penilee bro.... If you grew up there in the 80s and 90s you should have a much thicker skin than worrying what people on here say to you

My post regarding being slagged was tongue in cheek just not good at putting in emoojls. And yes grew up in the pen in the 70s and 80s .