Winning isn’t enough

RenfrewBear1972 said:
I’m glad I’m loaded with the cold and watched that shit in the house. Beale has made it a total fucking chore watching us now.
Zero chemistry, can’t pass, can’t link up, can’t create anything of note, and if not for last ditch desperation and good goalkeeping we lose that game.
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Football is gash and the amount of empty seats around me tells me that and it will only get worse the longer Beale is there .
 
Portadown_Bear said:
It was the Union Bears booing and they told us everything would be ok when we got rid of Wilson and Robertson….
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Boos were ringing out from all over the stadium. Everyone knew what was coming. Even the announcer had a Rangers song ready to play as soon as the booing started.
 
Winning isn’t enough when you know the performances on show aren’t going to result in a winning run.
 
When playing pish game after game with no clear plan or system then it’s an issue regardless or result. It’s different if we’re flying majority of the time with odd shite performance
 
I've no words for what I watched today so I'm just going to dig out the old Rangers Gold VHS and pretend that it was a bad dream.
 
It's been like this for a few years, even when Gerrard was leaving we were playing awful, but got the 1-0 win that papered over the cracks.

Winning while going backwards will go only one way.
 
Winning is enough if you can sustain it. There's no chance this team can keep winning with the current level of performance.
 
Blu_ultra said:
Mate, we need to stop putting our head in the sand. Celtic are miles and miles ahead of us right now. They’ll have their off days and in the grand scheme of things they are utter dross, but I saw their first half yesterday and they had numerous chances to score, have a way of playing, play positively and with an intensity that will win the vast majority of their games. That’s not an easy thing for a Rangers tan to say, but we simply cannot sleep walk into losing this league once again. We need to put a fight up for this league as I reckon they’ll drop more points than last year, but pretending today was a one off, simply won’t cut it.
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It's hardly head in the sand.
If we'd drawn that game today, this forum would be full of the same angry as fùck posters telling us "celtc would find a way to win".
Today, we found a way.
It was difficult to watch and on another day we probably don't win, but I'll be fùcked if I'm joining in with the faux-anger at Rangers winning just because we didn't perform like Pep's Barcelona side.

The bottom line is that we won, in spite of a poor performance. If being alright with it makes me a "happy clapper" then so be it.
I'll never be angry at Rangers for winning, it's what we're meant to do.
 
Missed the game today but looks like we were hanging on against a team we should be wiping the floor with. Top teams have games like this but we have used up our quota of bad days before October.
 
ICA_86 said:
I know this will get a lot of derision on here, but this ‘any win will do’ mentality the club - and many fans - seem to have is going to kill us.

The boos at full time tell you a lot. These dreadful performances simply aren’t going to be sustainable.
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I saw a fair number of fans applauding the players as the team went around the pitch at full time to acknowledge the supporters. I can only assume fans were clapping to acknowledge the fact that the players were thanking the fans for actually staying to the end and watching that garbage.

There was virtually zero entertainment value in that performance today as has been the case in previous matches and fans who think that’s acceptable are kidding themselves if they think we’re going to have a successful seaso? Of course I believe there’s plenty going to Ibrox these days who’ll be happy with a league cup or Scottish cup and the way things are looking there’s a strong possibility none of these will be sitting in the trophy room at the end of this season.

For me and I’m sure lots of other supporters the title is the only one that really matters this season, some of the new age soccer fans are willing to accept mediocrity but for many in the support, patience is wearing very thin and the manager is walking a tightrope now game to game. We need a run of wins and wins with some real authority to show that we’re serious contenders but thus far it’s been dire to watch and we’re playing catch-up already..it can’t continue like this much longer as fans will vote with their feet.

Prior to kick off today I felt win lose or draw I was probably going to watch a shit game of football and shit it was! yes it takes TWO teams to provide an entertaining spectacle but to see how poor we were again and holding on against diddies at home is deeply concerning and fills me with dread for what’s to come? I would love to be proved wrong but it’s not looking likely.
 
It has to be said - the football we are playing under Michael Beale, is truly awful.You'd get better excitement watching Irvine Meadow playing Auchinleck Talbot - and probably better talent, too. He will NEVER take us to the next level, with the dross he has assembled. Eleven new signings, a £15m+ transfer spend, and we look no better than we did, during Gio's darkest days. It's becoming more and more apparent, with each passing week, that Michael Beale is a complete fraud.
 
ICA_86 said:
I know this will get a lot of derision on here, but this ‘any win will do’ mentality the club - and many fans - seem to have is going to kill us.

The boos at full time tell you a lot. These dreadful performances simply aren’t going to be sustainable.
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Sounds a bit - “have tae play the Shellick way !”
 
GazzaG said:
It's hardly head in the sand.
If we'd drawn that game today, this forum would be full of the same angry as fùck posters telling us "celtc would find a way to win".
Today, we found a way.
It was difficult to watch and on another day we probably don't win, but I'll be fùcked if I'm joining in with the faux-anger at Rangers winning just because we didn't perform like Pep's Barcelona side.

The bottom line is that we won, in spite of a poor performance. If being alright with it makes me a "happy clapper" then so be it.
I'll never be angry at Rangers for winning, it's what we're
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Fair enough. I think many just feel that it’s more than this game. I actually like Beale and I’m usually the optimist, but not seeing progress after nearly a year is concerning. I gave Gerrard the benefit of the doubt as you could see the journey. I’m not sure I see it here.
 
Blu_ultra said:
Fair enough. I think many just feel that it’s more than this game. I actually like Beale and I’m usually the optimist, but not seeing progress after nearly a year is concerning. I gave Gerrard the benefit of the doubt as you could see the journey. I’m not sure I see it here.
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Everyone I speak to says the same.

There is no signs of improvement, no signs of a strategy, just nothing to suggest we’re getting anywhere under Michael Beale. We’re just delaying the inevitable of his sacking.

We all stuck with Gerrard (just about) as the improvements were clear to see and we were getting somewhere. Thank god we did or you have to wonder where we’d be now!
 
Wilso54 said:
For me the issue isn't just the game today, it's looking down the line at the future. The fans didn't boo today just because we were crap in this 1 particular game, they booed as they know that this crap served up week in and week out will not be good enough.
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I didn’t hear any booing on Thursday night.
 
Davie Weir said:
Everyone I speak to says the same.

There is no signs of improvement, no signs of a strategy, just nothing to suggest we’re getting anywhere under Michael Beale. We’re just delaying the inevitable of his sacking.

We all stuck with Gerrard (just about) as the improvements were clear to see and we were getting somewhere. Thank god we did or you have to wonder where we’d be now!
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After Tynecastle and the Hamilton game at Ibrox the boos were worse than anything Beale has had to put up with tbf.
 
Poor performances aren't sustainable, never have been.

The stats say we had 17 shots at goal against Motherwell, but of the top of your head you'd be doing well remembering 2 clear chances (including the goal).

It also isn't just the first couple of months in to the season, it's been just under a year with this manager and no signs were heading in the right direction under him.
 
56comingsoon said:
After Tynecastle and the Hamilton game at Ibrox the boos were worse than anything Beale has had to put up with tbf.
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That’s spot on. However, you could step back and say he had taken over a team who were mid table spl, getting beaten by European minnows and being embarrassed against Celtic. Even by Hamilton, the big picture was a positive trajectory; solid second, competing, better playing squad, European progress meaning an improving cash situation.
 
Just watched the game - trash - Well deserved a point at least. With exception of Buttland it was shockingly bad. Ashamed
He has to go. He has lost the changing room. Genuinely I would get Murt, stable the situation and get some pride back and then think long term about a manager cause this is a car crash and the unwashed will stroll to the title.
 
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ICA_86 said:
I know this will get a lot of derision on here, but this ‘any win will do’ mentality the club - and many fans - seem to have is going to kill us.

The boos at full time tell you a lot. These dreadful performances simply aren’t going to be sustainable.
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Winning is important its actually how you win things. I get we need to be better much better but to keep winning like our last three games is very important and gives us a chance , keeps us in things until we can improve
 
GazzaG said:
It's hardly head in the sand.
If we'd drawn that game today, this forum would be full of the same angry as fùck posters telling us "celtc would find a way to win".
Today, we found a way.
It was difficult to watch and on another day we probably don't win, but I'll be fùcked if I'm joining in with the faux-anger at Rangers winning just because we didn't perform like Pep's Barcelona side.

The bottom line is that we won, in spite of a poor performance. If being alright with it makes me a "happy clapper" then so be it.
I'll never be angry at Rangers for winning, it's what we're meant to do.
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Exactly
 
Mr Wilton said:
We’re not going to continue to win in this manner. It’s very poor to watch, Motherwell keep it tight at the back at the expense of going forward but you can see we’ve got little by the way of ideas, movement or any kind of cohesion in attack.
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Exactly this, and when Motherwell did move forward they looked more threatening than we did the whole game.We are absolutely clueless when we get near the oppositions box.
 
Iain04 said:
If we win the title people aren't going to complain. They'll probably look back on results like today & say it was a huge 3 points when we didn't deserve it.

Though todays game was dire.
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Key word IF!

This manager or players have shown that they can't do it when asked.

Then of course there has been the glaringly obvious issues since pre season and yet we continue to limp on until the next cock up
 
HamiltonBear said:
Might that have something to do with Danilo, Lawrence, Cantwell, Dowell, Raskin and now Matondo being injured?
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And what was the excuse for dire performances when they werent injured?

You remember Killie, PSV and Celtic? Outside of Lawrence, who was still returning to fitness, the rest all played and haven't set the heather alight either.
 
Aberdeen went and won 4-0. We can only dream of 4-0 wins at this stage. Our team's lack of cohesion is dire.
 
Been a Rangers fan all my 61 years and seen some crap this is on another level.
I watched the 1st 15 minutes yesterday and changed to women's golf.
Switched back for last 20 and have to admit that 3pts was daylight robbery.
Keeper pretty much saved our bacon.
Beale looks like he's heading for a breakdown should pack it in now.
 
sammy1872 said:
Its not getting any better is it. Dropped points are in the post and will come soon. Butland wont be magnificent every game. Lose on wednesday and i dont even want to think what the scenes would be like. Old firm x10. The league cup is simply non negotiable for his job. Whether he loses wednesday or at hampden if that trophy aint in the Ibrox trophy room on xmas hes finished
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If we win the league cup while being ten points behind Celtic it's a completely hollow victory. He can't be allowed to stay because we have chance of winning one trophy
 
HamiltonBear said:
Might that have something to do with Danilo, Lawrence, Cantwell, Dowell, Raskin and now Matondo being injured?
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Beale didn’t rely on Danilo when it mattered…Celtic and PSV…and he can’t really rely on Lawrence at this early stage give his recovery from long term injury.

He had a front pairing of his players Dessers and Lammers with another of his forwards Sima off the bench and they were all absolutely rotten.

Cifuentes was his key midfield signing and he was also crap. He also chose to give Jack a new deal.

He had sufficient options yesterday of his choosing for that performance not to burn my eyes the way it did.
 
TheSteele said:
Just watched the game - trash - Well deserved a point at least. With exception of Buttland it was shockingly bad. Ashamed
He has to go. He has lost the changing room. Genuinely I would get Murt, stable the situation and get some pride back and then think long term about a manager cause this is a car crash and the unwashed will stroll to the title.
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Surely to %^*& you aren’t talking about Murty?!
 
the system and line up he employed from the start was disjointed and unbalanced and yes he changed things but amazingly made things worse to the point of we were an absolute mess by full time.
 
Theciscokid said:
Been a Rangers fan all my 61 years and seen some crap this is on another level.
I watched the 1st 15 minutes yesterday and changed to women's golf.
Switched back for last 20 and have to admit that 3pts was daylight robbery.
Keeper pretty much saved our bacon.
Beale looks like he's heading for a breakdown should pack it in now.
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I have been watching Rangers at least as long as that and I have watched far worse than yesterday with far worse results. Even the younger element in our support will have seen far worse since 2012. Which is not to say that we don't look disorganised, disjointed and dare I say in some instances heartless. Expectations and demands amongst the support are so high that every game - even a win - have become a crisis waiting to happen.
 
CarrickRanger said:
Honestly I hate to say it but i fear for us coming up against the Edinburgh clubs and Aberdeen, if that was our next 3 games I would take a gamble on us getting a big total of 1 point from a possible 9.
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Sheep at home and st mirren away, with our current form and injuries, is looking dropped points and title race over unless there are huge changes.

The confusing over beale and cantwell being out for 3-4 weeks or 3-4 games isnt helping either considering he has now missed 3 games and wont be back midweek or the weekend.

A sorry state of affairs.
 
ferguson said:
It tells us a lot about the tiny minority of idiots who booed.
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100% agree.

We had a tough European game on Thursday night which we won then beat an obstinate Motherwell team who have a strong away record. We've won 3 games in a row without conceding and yet some morons were booing, incredible!
 
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